Nero VCD, No sound

[Rainbow1]

I converted my first avi to VCD today after many problems previously with out-of-sync sound and regular skipping.

The video transfer is excellent this time and have no complaints however there is no sound.

I am using NERO's VCD profile at this stage, any suggestions for a better tool will be welcome.

I simplyused an avi splittertomake the source small enough to fin on a CD and the added it to the iso and burnt. Is theat the correct proccedure?

I am a completly new so go easy, I am a qick learner though

[mats.hogberg]

In essence, there are 3 tools (+ some know-how) you need for AVI to VCD: VirtualDub, TMPGEnc and VCDEasy. Look here for some reading, providing you the know-how.

/Mats

[Rainbow1]

I ma following SEFY's DVD Backup guide.

Im at the part where I have used gspot to identify the codecs of the avi and I have just opened vdub and it says

"VirtualDub has detected an improper VBR audio encoding in the source AVI file and will rewrite the audio header with standard CBR values during processing for
better compatibility. This may introduce up to 6401 ms of skew from the video stream. If this is unacceptable, decompress the *entire* audio stream to an
uncompressed WAV file and recompress with a constant bitrate encoder. (bitrate: 130.3 ± 17.1 kbps)"

What does this mean?
How do I extraxt mp3 audio using vdub?

[mats.hogberg]

Good choice! (of guide) I'd set audio to "Direct stream copy" then "Save WAV". I'd then rename the file saved from VDub back to .MP3 (I guess it's MP3 audio, right?) from .WAV as VDub insists on, then decode this mp3 to wav with CDEx (or other good mp3 to wav decoder you're familiar with). From this point in the story, wherever you load the AVI, load this WAV as audio track. Let's say you open it in VDub and get the VBR audio message - just click "OK" and then select "WAV Audio" under Audio, and load your external WAV.

/Mats

[Rainbow1]

can u explain to me why it's neccessary to extract the wav then rename it back to mp3, i dont get it?

are the audio and video seperates when making a vcd, is there a way to convert an avi straight to vcd as one

[mats.hogberg]

Direct Stream Copy saves out the audio in whatever shape it is in, in the AVI. But VirtualDub has a peculiarity (why is this?) that it adds WAV headers and uses a .wav extension, regardless of what codec is used in the audio stream. Hence, even if it works as a WAV, it is still mp3, and should be treated as such.
Neither VirtualDub nor TMPGEnc likes VBR audio, so if your source AVI has VBR audio, you'd better get the audio in wav format first. You then feed the video from the AVI and audio from the wav, and they will be processed and spit out as one.

/Mats

[Rainbow1]

k, ive tried to open CDEX and I get:

Failed to load the wnaspi32.dll driver!
Use the "Native NT SCSI library" driver option instead?

I then downloaded wnaspi32.dll and extracted it to windows/system, still happens

edit: Nevermind, i d/l'ed from nero Version: 2.0.1.59 and the error has gone

[Rainbow1]

k so i have opened the avi and the wav audio in vdub.

I extracted the mp3 audio then renamed to .wav then used cdex to convert back to wav again.

Now when I save as a .avi will it have audio and video after making VCD using nero?

[mats.hogberg]

Nero? Does Sefy say "Use Nero"?
Anyway, Yes, you could load the AVI, then load your wav and save AVI direct stream copy for both audio and video, and use this new AVI as source for Nero. If it works is another story, but if anything is universally understood by most encoders, it's audio in wav format...

/Mats

[Rainbow1]

If I dont use nero to burn then what do I use?

how do I join the audio and video together.

NERO WORKED fine but now its not working its spits out the CD after about 5% procceessing everytime.

[Rainbow1]

Thats It.

I dont know why anyone would want to make a VCD.

This has become the most drawn out frusterating experience I have ever had on a computer.

All just for a crappy quality CD movie screw that.

There has got to be a easier ay of doing this!

for now its TV out and SPDIF Audio. much better video quality anyway.

[Sefy]

I'll never understand why people insist on using the wrong software to do the job and then they complain that they can't accomplish it and it was hurrible! Why on earth use a BURNING software that specilizes in BURNING to do an ENCODING job ?

Why not use TMPGEnc or MainConcept or god knows so many of the software out there to ENCODE ? You won't use those to BURN will you ? people if you want something done, you gotta use the RIGHT tool for the RIGHT job! don't use NERO for encoding!