video from TS files with Toast

[ansberry]

I used MacTheRipper to rip a DVD that I bought. This resulted in a video_TS file, audio_TS file, and a file called jacket_P. I put these files into my Toast video window using the advanced window for video from VIDEO_TS. The audio_TS file doesn't have anything in the folder. the jacket_P file has 3 MP2 files amounting to 222K of space. I burned it to disk. When I put the DVD into my Panasonic DVD player, it says it's reading, but never goes to a menu. What did I do wrong? should I have left out the AUDIO_TS file since there was no information in the folder? What is a JACKET_P file?

[Case]

Not sure what went wrong, but ...

An empty AUDIO_TS folder is normal, the specs say it should be there, empty or not, although not all players require it. Best to include it, for compatibility reasons.

A JACKET_P picture is a picture placed on the DVD, which will be displayed when the DVD player is stopped, in place of the player's default picture, which is usually the manufacturer's logo. Not all manufacturers have yet implemented this feature in their DVD players. SONY, and perhaps others, have, and perhaps more will in the future. If your player has such a feature, it may be configured in the player's setup menus, and is usually disabled by default.

[galactica]

you chould just burn it without it. I ususally toss all that crap anyway.

Does the VIDEO_TS folder play on the mac off the HD before you burnt it?

[NightWing]

Hum. Didient post...

Check in the main directory on your burned DVD and see if the VIDEO_TS has folder or files inside of it. Only files should be there. If directories then thats the problem. You can put the JACKET_P in the main directory. If you wish.

Can finally order Toast since I now know the damage { actualy get some back! }.

Also did you set Toast disk format to DVD video or just created the directories?

[pixeljammedia]

The JACKET_P folder is not yet supported in Toast. Because Toast doesn't recognize it as part of the DVD it puts in the neccessary files required to load a folder on the mac file system. It treats the DVD as a data DVD rather than a normal video one and the resulting burn will not play in many DVD players. Like Galactica said, burn it without the Jacket_P or else find a way to image it to a UDF disc without the resultant file system files. (DVDSP3 for example can work with JACKET_P folders.

[ansberry]

There are no folders in the VIDEO_TS folder. It has 12 .VOB, .IFO, AND .BUP files. I took the JACKET_P folder off the Toast menu and burned it again. Still the same result. On my Panasonic RV32 DVD player it just sits and reads and reads and never gets to play. I put the DVD into my iBook and it plays fine.

Any ideas?

[Case]

Does your player accept other DVD±R(W)s of the same media, of different titles/content? Maybe it's the media; the iBook drive might be more tolerant than the Panasonic.

[Spoffo]

If you already have a VIDEO_TS folder, you *don't* burn it with the "video" function of Toast. That's for *creating* a VIDEO_TS (including menu) from raw MPEG files.

Set Toast for "Data" and be sure to check "advanced" and "DVD-ROM (UDF)" in the drawer to the left. Now drag just your VIDEO_TS folder into the Toast window. Toast will add an empty AUDIO_TS folder and show a little DVD symbol entitled "My DVD" at the top (you can change this title).

Now click "Burn" and you will get a a DVD that will play in virtually any player (at least if you're using quality media.) The idea that you burn video discs using "data" rather than "video" is one of the less intuitive things about this otherwise admirable product.

[Ladd]

But it is easy to see how one might be confused on this issue, as the Toast VIDEO tab has a "DVD-video from VIDEO-TS folder" option.

Personally I've done it both ways and haven't had a problem. But that lack of problem may be only with my particular burners and players...

[Washac]

Hi


Just found this post/thread.


I have a VIDEO_TS folder full of those VOB files etc, I have no problem burning it etc to a working DVD, but the video content has no chapter markers.


What is the best way to add some markers, and then burn ?

Washac

[sjk]

I'm pretty sure [edit: wrongly] Toast adds chapters markers (whatever their tech term is) every five minutes. There's some other context where you can choose whether or not they're added and how often but I can't remember where right now.

You might want to save a disk image from Toast for testing (e.g. with DVD Player) before burning it to DVD.

[Spoffo]

Toast will only add markers if you re-encode the file via the "video" panel. If you already have a VIDEO_TS folder and just burn it, Toast won't do anything inside those VOB files (where the markers are). It just burns the bits it sees and adds the lead-in formatting necessary for players to recognize it as a DVD Video disk.

[sjk]

Ahh, thanks for clarifying that. It even makes sense.

[rockinsage]

Spoffo:

I've burnt DVD's in Toast from an existing VIDEO_TS folder using both methods (Data/UDF and Video/From VIDEO_TS Folder). It seems to take the same amount of time and give the same result either way. What is the real difference, if any, between these two methods if you have an existing VIDEO_TS folder? It doesn't seem like there's any reencoding going on with the Video/From VIDEO_TS Folder option?

Thanks!

[Spoffo]

I don't think there is any difference. They both do the same thing, but offer different opportunitiues to screw up. Back when I started doing back-ups and such, I first tried using Dragon Burn (a total POS) instead of Toast, and the only way to do this was the "Data" path. I've stayed with it, possibly because it has less confusing options.

The only way to mess up in the "Data" window when working with a VIDEO_TS is to select one of the other disc types. In that case, you'll get a data disc of your movie that will play on your computer but won't be recognized by a DVD player. Since "DVD-ROM" is the only disc type option that sounds at all like what you're trying to create, that seems an unlikely mistake for a beginner working slowly and carefully.

On the other hand, in the "Video" panel, a beginner would naturally think that selecting "DVD Video" oughta work. Then, If you drag a VIDEO_TS folder in and start, Toast doesn't correct you, but will merrily set off to try and encode the items in that folder and generally create a mess. In fact, if you're a beginner, you might figure that staying with the "Basic" options is safer, in which case you won't even see the "DVD Video from VIDEO_TS" option, and you'll get into exactly the kind of confusion that started this thread.

I guess it's a matter of taste and whatever helps one get through the learning curve of DVD alphabet soup.

[rockinsage]

Spoffo,

Yeah, agreed that the Video options allow you to shoot yourself in the foot. Thanks for the reply.

[AntnyMD]

Has reading the manual gone completely out of fashion?

[thoughton]

Manual schmanual :P

[ansberry]

Actually, yes I did read the manual. And I did a search of the forum. Being a beginner at this stuff with lots of questions and really no knowledge to contribute, I try not to waste the time of the knowledgible people here.

Case: thanks for your suggestion about media. I was using +R disks. I used a -R and it worked fine. I have other +Rs that work on this machine, so i'm not sure what the deal is, but it doesn't matter. I was able to get the job done.