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    My question is this?
    - If i ripp ONLY the Main Movie from a DVD the copy protections (like ARccOS, CSS, RCE etc.) is still there or not?

    I can manage to ripp some DVD´s with write protection (like A.V.P or Resident Evil-2 or The Manchurian Candidate all REG.2) ONLY with DVD-Shrink and i have no problem with ripp or watch it in standalone player.

    I can´t find anything releated in the forum exactly for this matter.
    I see many other posts about DVD Authoring and copy protections but all of you said about ripping the Whole DVD (with menus,extras etc.) and not the movie ONLY.

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  2. Member RDS1955's Avatar
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    Yes, it is still there.. There are encryption keys coded in the files...
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    If you rip only the main movie, some protection will be removed. CSS needs to be removed, ARccOS may still remain on the disc, RCE can be removed and there is an option in the ripper if you wish to remove macrovision.
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    Of course encryption will still be there. After all, it is the movie everyone wants to see and not the credits etc. DVDShrink will 'decrypt' and allow you to back up the Movie only. You mentioned that in your post so i'm assuming you're aware of that. Don't forget DVDFab Decrypter though for encryption codes that will not work with DVDShrink.
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    I'm pretty sure that the process of ripping removes ANY protection - after all, that is why you rip the files in the first place - the only way to keep the protection would be to copy and paste the VOBs in Windows Explorer or My Computer.
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    Can't seem to see the relevance of the post in the beginning. If the DVD can be backed up on a whole disc or main movie basis only, with DVDShrink AND can then be played without problem in a standalone Home DVD player, then where's the problem whether encryption keys remain or not?
    If you look at the inner workings of DVD Decrypter it does make reference as Jimmalenko mentioned, of 'Removing' encryption. After all programs like Adobe Premiere can insert Macrovision and CSS in a project, so is it safe to assume that a back up copy has its encryption removed for this to then happen in Adobe?
    My impression with DVD shrink as that is the app being used, is that the encryption was merely decrypted as opposed to removed, thus still leaving the now 'decrypted codes' on file! If a further back up copy is made (of the original back up copy) then DVD Shrink will report encryption as 'Not Encrypted'.
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    try to use DVD43 (www.dvd43.com) = free software
    you'll have no trouble at all
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    If you can get it off the disk and onto your HDD you have stripped off the protection. But, you may not have done it properly if you use older tools - arcoss can leave damaged files that Shrink won't read, for example. You might not have removed all PUOs - that is dependent on how you have configured your ripping software. Windows XP (at least) will not let you copy encrypted VOBs to your HDD using explorer.
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    Thank you all for the answers,BUT...

    - How can i ripp The Manchurian Candidate (2004 movie) for example with no problem and a friend of mine (who lives in another city, and try the same movie) can't?
    - The manufacturers of the original disks make others with ArCcos and others without for the same region (2)?
    - Is there is a tool that tell me exactly what protection has a disk, so if i try to ripp the dvd i can avoid blanks etc. because of copy protection?


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    Nice try on the boldface in the topic. But nobody aside from the admin is that special. Please don't do that again, just makes more mess for mods to clean up Thanks.

    Anyway, on to the question, ripping implies you remove "problems" like CSS or Arcoss or whatever.

    But not regions (RCE "protection"). That's different ball of wax, you can leave it or not. Your choice. Most authoring software only makes R0, but these disc editing things we have don't always do it, as they work with discs that had it to being with. Unlike DVDs we make from our own source and author ourselves..

    Your last questions don't make any sense.
    (1) Your friend did something wrong. Or his stuff doesn't work, either way. His problem, not the discs fault.
    (2) Don't assume things. No.
    (3) When you rip, it shows the keys it uses to extract. Aside from that, no.

    Your English is fine. Could use more grammer practice, but your English is better than my Greek.
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    I know that many disks released in the US with RCE or Arcoss have been released in Australia with only standard CSS protection. While Arcoss is starting to affect some titles over here, I have yet to see RCE, and so far have yet to hit a disk that DVD Decrypter couldn't rip. But it it would come as no suprise to me to find different protection schemes being used in different areas.
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    first try Dvd Decrypter; if doesn't work, go DVD Fab Decrypter, or vice versa-both freeware.
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