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  1. Hi everyone, new to the board. I have several apps that will convert my VOB's to AVI/MPG, whatever, but I want to do that with out compressing the video. I want to change the file format to avi or mpg, so that premiere or pinnacle can read it, but I want the full quality video, not a compressed format. All these tools are geared towards compressing the video to fit on a CD, but I don't care about that! I just want to convert the file, not compress it. Any ideas would be appreciated.
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    The MPEGs in VOBs are already compressed. I realize you don't want to compress them further, but raw RGB video would take up a lot of space. And just the process of converting them will result in some loss.

    You could convert them to DV AVI video or use Huffy AVI which has little loss, and these would be easier to edit.

    If you want minimum loss, just rip out the MPEGs from the VOBs and edit them in MPEG-2 format.
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    Open your VOBs in VirtualDubMod and then save as DV AVI (native to Premiere, so no re-encoding in Premiere) using the Panasonic DV Codec.

    I've done just that and it comes out a treat.
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    Originally Posted by daamon
    Open your VOBs in VirtualDubMod and then save as DV AVI (native to Premiere, so no re-encoding in Premiere) using the Panasonic DV Codec.

    I've done just that and it comes out a treat.
    I was thinking the same thing - either a DV codec or even huffyuv, picvideo MJPEG or similar, (although you may not notice any difference from source when using a DVD codec).

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    Originally Posted by jimmalenko
    Nice shorts, BTW ... they really show off your white-as-a-sheet chicken legs
    It's being a Pom - We don't really see the sun back home...
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    Originally Posted by daamon
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    Nice shorts, BTW ... they really show off your white-as-a-sheet chicken legs
    It's being a Pom - We don't really see the sun back home...
    Yeah, but you've been an honorary aussie for what, 6 months now ? I know our "summer" has had more rainfall than winter , but still ...

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    Originally Posted by jimmalenko
    Yeah, but you've been an honorary aussie for what, 6 months now ? I know our "summer" has had more rainfall than winter , but still ...

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    Yeah, 6 months - But I've gotta get rid of my English beer belly before I go out in the sun in public. Otherwise I'm in danger of being rescued from the beaching...

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    DV is not lossless though. If you wanted lossless you would need to convert to RAW YV12 or use a lossless codec that supports YV12.

    Next issue is whether Premiere supports YV12 or not.
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  9. Thank for the ideas. I would like to do as close to lossless as possible, and I'm not really worried about hard drive space or anything. I don't care how big the file gets. I just want the best possible quality file that Premiere or Pinnacle studio will read, ie, avi/mpg.
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    In my experience with Premiere 6.0, anything other than DV AVI (including raw, uncompressed AVI) gets rendered to DV AVI. I may have some setting on or off that causes this, or may be doing something wrong.

    Later versions (not sure which) work with MPG, but a plug-in is required.

    I've not used Pinnacle Studio, so can't comment.
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  11. I'm not bothered with what encoding Premiere does, but I just want to get the best possible file pre-Premiere, so that I'm working with the good stuff before it gets encoded. But Premiere will not work with VOB's.
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    Sorry, I should've been clearer - In my experience, Premiere renders to DV AVI meaning that everything ends up as DV AVI and so there's no point in starting with anything better than DV AVI.

    Remember that I'm talking about Premiere 6.0 here...
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    You'd better have an NTFS partitioned drive for the AVI file. That sucker is gonna be big.
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  14. Can't be much bigger than a 2 hour capture from my camcorder which is about 40 to 50 GB.
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    Yeah, but Fat32 can only handle file sizes up to 4GB.
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  16. Yeah, my drive is 250GB, formatted NTFS. So did we ever come up with a good solid solution?
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    There is some corner of a foreign field that is forever England: Telstra Stadium, Sydney, 22/11/2003.

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