gah, why does this always happen

[glockjs]

ok so i was lookin to build a cheapy extra system... BUT NOW LOOK

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RAIDMAX Black Aluminum Gaming Case with 420W Power Supply, Model "668WBP" -RETAIL
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the only thing im not 100% on is the case and the mobo, might wait till asus is in stock....but still the point is i set out to build a cheapy computer i was thinkin between 200-300 with the parts i have layin around. but nooo look at the freakin cart now

the way i figure, why am i gonna half ass something and waste all that money.

BUT STILL im just a sucker, i just wanna make myself feel better by others saying yeah this happens to them too

even when i go into a retail store this happens

it's an evil trap, and they got you from the cajones from the start..bastards

[SquirrelDip]

The way I look at it is either go cheap or go best (well, almost best - best is always over priced). You'll never be satisified with halfway, you'll either kick yourself that you didn't fork out the little bit more - cheap and you have the satisfaction that you saved money.

List out two columns - one cheap and one best, total up each and look at the difference. If you can justify the added cost then go best, if not go cheap.

[glockjs]

i know i know, but the whole point is i was lookin to spend maybe $200-300 tops and look what ended up in my cart

[bazooka]

i know i know, but the whole point is i was lookin to spend maybe $200-300 tops and look what ended up in my cart

You could have spent only $300. It is called temptation my friend. :P

[glockjs]

i know i know, but the whole point is i was lookin to spend maybe $200-300 tops and look what ended up in my cart

You could have spent only $300. It is called temptation my friend. :P

i know, the higher $ stuff is just so pretty though

[sacajaweeda]

Oh don't get yourself in such a lather over it. Just tell all your buddies you paid half of what you really paid for it and make them feel bad about all the money they spent on theirs. Deflect all them guilty feelings onto somebody more deserving. Anybody but you.

[bazooka]

Oh don't get yourself in such a lather over it. Just tell all your buddies you paid half of what you really paid for it and make them feel bad about all the money they spent on theirs. Deflect all them guilty feelings onto somebody more deserving. Anybody but you.

Brilliant.

You must be a genius. 8)

[glockjs]

Oh don't get yourself in such a lather over it. Just tell all your buddies you paid half of what you really paid for it and make them feel bad about all the money they spent on theirs. Deflect all them guilty feelings onto somebody more deserving. Anybody but you.

only prob with that is all my buddies dont know jack about computers. they think im the biggest geek in the world. they wouldnt know the difference if i was talkin about a mmx266 or a fx-53. they would just sit there with a blank look their faces they're the type that are more concerned of what a computer looks like than what it does

[ViRaL1]

Oh don't get yourself in such a lather over it. Just tell all your buddies you paid half of what you really paid for it and make them feel bad about all the money they spent on theirs. Deflect all them guilty feelings onto somebody more deserving. Anybody but you.

only prob with that is all my buddies dont know jack about computers. they think im the biggest geek in the world. they wouldnt know the difference if i was talkin about a mmx266 or a fx-53. they would just sit there with a blank look their faces they're the type that are more concerned of what a computer looks like than what it does

...or the size. :P

'My computer is WAAAAAAAAY better, look at how big it is!!'

[zzyzzx]

I usually just looke for th ebest bang for the buck, which right now is about an AMD TB 2600 or so with something like a Biostar M7NCD MB

[glockjs]

I usually just looke for th ebest bang for the buck, which right now is about an AMD TB 2600 or so with something like a Biostar M7NCD MB

i know, i was lookin at an xp2600 and a $60 asus.....but 3500+ is actually a bargain if you look at what it can do...it squashes a 2600 or even a p4 3.2 at that without a thought. so i think the extra $ might be worth it..plus with 64bit OS comin out soon it might be worth the investment

[budz]

only prob with that is all my buddies dont know jack about computers. they think im the biggest geek in the world. they wouldnt know the difference if i was talkin about a mmx266 or a fx-53. they would just sit there with a blank look their faces laugh.gif they're the type that are more concerned of what a computer looks like than what it doe

Hey! you get those same looks from your friends like I do.
Newegg is addictive.....
Buy the stuff in your cart then use the pc you have now as the second pc....that's what I did to convince myself that I needed a PENT 4 3.0 pc....it worked for me

[studtrooper]

I usually just looke for th ebest bang for the buck, which right now is about an AMD TB 2600 or so with something like a Biostar M7NCD MB

Maybe a year ago that was the best bang for the buck, but you'd be shooting yourself in the foot for not going the 64-bit route now...

[rallynavvie]

Maybe a year ago that was the best bang for the buck, but you'd be shooting yourself in the foot for not going the 64-bit route now...

I don't think so. Show me when M$ will release a full retail version of a 64-bit native OS or Adobe has 64-bit variants of their apps and I'll worry about not having native 64-bit procs. Until then it is just a marketing tool. The only possible use I can see is 64-bit *nix kernels running server and data apps in which case the 64-bit platforms will trump most 32-bit systems. I don't think that's what most of us here are looking for. Fortunately for me I can have either since my board supports "fake" 64-bit Xeons

Spend more on your PSU. Get an Antec NeoPower 480W and a nice Antec P160 case. It's only more than double what your current choice cost

I did the same thing with my new system. At first I was looking at cheaper solutions for a new workstation but then ended up spending a lot more on it. I'm certainly glad I did though. You should be able to do quite a lot on that system as it is. I didn't see memory listed though?

[glockjs]

Maybe a year ago that was the best bang for the buck, but you'd be shooting yourself in the foot for not going the 64-bit route now...

I don't think so. Show me when M$ will release a full retail version of a 64-bit native OS or Adobe has 64-bit variants of their apps and I'll worry about not having native 64-bit procs. Until then it is just a marketing tool. The only possible use I can see is 64-bit *nix kernels running server and data apps in which case the 64-bit platforms will trump most 32-bit systems. I don't think that's what most of us here are looking for. Fortunately for me I can have either since my board supports "fake" 64-bit Xeons

Spend more on your PSU. Get an Antec NeoPower 480W and a nice Antec P160 case. It's only more than double what your current choice cost

I did the same thing with my new system. At first I was looking at cheaper solutions for a new workstation but then ended up spending a lot more on it. I'm certainly glad I did though. You should be able to do quite a lot on that system as it is. I didn't see memory listed though?

spend more on the PSU and case?? now your just pilein it on

im just gonna use a gig of my corsair pc3200 for that one for now...and leave 512 in this system. cause if i start lookin at ram right now that basket price is gonna get ugly. i'll save for the ocz el dual.

but see now u got me thinkin again, this is noooo good. i dont wanna see that basket price get out of control

[studtrooper]

Maybe a year ago that was the best bang for the buck, but you'd be shooting yourself in the foot for not going the 64-bit route now...

I don't think so. Show me when M$ will release a full retail version of a 64-bit native OS or Adobe has 64-bit variants of their apps and I'll worry about not having native 64-bit procs. Until then it is just a marketing tool. The only possible use I can see is 64-bit *nix kernels running server and data apps in which case the 64-bit platforms will trump most 32-bit systems. I don't think that's what most of us here are looking for. Fortunately for me I can have either since my board supports "fake" 64-bit Xeons

I guess what I was trying to get at was attempting to point out that the A64 platform provides future-proofness AND excellent 32-bit performance (nice jab at the Intel Xeon's "64-bit memory extensions" crap ). The Athlon FX-55 recently beat the piss out of Intel's best... and it was like $150 cheaper!

[glockjs]

see what happens when i start adding stuff



OCZ EL Dual Channel Series Gold Edition 184-Pin 1GB(512MBx2) DDR PC-4400, Model OCZ5501024ELDCGLE-K - Retail
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SAMSUNG 160GB 7200RPM SATA Hard Drive, Model SP1614C, OEM Drive Only
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[rallynavvie]

Forget the RAM then if you've got good PC3200 already. I'm assuming you've got 3 sticks of 512MB then? Use two of the 512MB sticks for the new machine then.

What's with the SATA drive? Price is nice on it I guess.

The PSU is more important than the case. I'd still push that big Antec PSU and get whatever case you want. I was suggesting the Antec P160 case as it has been the quietest case I've ever witnessed. Even with two big HSF it's still very silent.

[glockjs]

well the ram is value select corsair...its not bad or anything, it works and its pretty reliable just not the best for speed. SATA means more info flowing specially for a newer system.

im thinkin of goin all the way with it. here's my cart now

i sound like a woman who cant make up their mind....this was my whole point of this thread, i set out to get a cheapy computer and look what i came home with typical woman shopper

Cases (Computer Cases, ATX Form)

ANTEC Silver Aluminum Performance 1 Series ATX Mid-Tower Case with Swiveling Front Control Panel features LED Display, Model "P160" -RETAIL
Item# N82E16811129141

$110.00

CD/DVD Burners (RW Drives)

Pioneer Black DVD+RW/-RW Drive, Model DVR-108, OEM
Item# N82E16827129157

$74.99

CD/DVD ROM Drives

Lite-On 16X DVD-ROM, Model SOHD-167T Black, RETAIL
Item# N82E16827131119

$26.00

Hard Drives

(2) Seagate 200GB 7200RPM SATA Hard Drive, Model ST3200822AS, OEM Drive Only
Item# N82E16822148033

$128.00
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$256.00
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Memory (System Memory)

OCZ EL Dual Channel Series Gold Edition 184-Pin 1GB(512MBx2) DDR PC-4400, Model OCZ5501024ELDCGLE-K - Retail
Item# N82E16820146987

$330.00

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Motherboards - AMD

MSI "K8T NEO2-FIR" VIA K8T800 Pro Chipset Motherboard for AMD Socket 939 CPU -RETAIL
Item# N82E16813130463

$117.50

Power Supplies

Antec 480 watt 120mm fan ATX 12V v2.0 power supply, Active PFC, Model "NeoPower" -RETAIL
Item# N82E16817103924

$115.00

Processors

AMD Athlon 64 3500+, 512K, L2 Cache, Socket 939 Windows Compatible 64-bit Processor - Retail
Item# N82E16819103463

$267.00

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[rallynavvie]

I actually like that price for all that hardware. Almost makes me want to put together a single-CPU system

You may perhaps want to wait for a PCI-E system board? That way you can save up while you wait, and add a PCI-E video card in that cart too

[glockjs]

I actually like that price for all that hardware. Almost makes me want to put together a single-CPU system

You may perhaps want to wait for a PCI-E system board? That way you can save up while you wait, and add a PCI-E video card in that cart too

i know right, try finding a computer that'll stack up to the stats this thing will put out for anywhere near the price retail

ya know i was thinkin about that....when do pci-e boards start comin out?

i already have a AIW9800pro so vid card isnt all that important, im actually really happy with this one

[ViRaL1]

I can't read.

[glockjs]

Newegg has the 120GB SATA II Cudas for only $88 vs $128 for the ones you picked

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=22-148-039&depa=0

ncq no go on amd boards though

[ViRaL1]

Hadn't heard that before. I noticed I was looking at 120s vs the 200s you spec'd anyway. Seagate also has new 300s out and 400s due soon.

[budz]

Seagate also has new 300s out and 400s due soon.

The Seagate 400gb hd will be on sale the day after Thanksgiving at COMPUSA for $229.00 after rebates.

[glockjs]

Hadn't heard that before. I noticed I was looking at 120s vs the 200s you spec'd anyway. Seagate also has new 300s out and 400s due soon.

i know, i didnt either...i was lookin at the 120 cuda, i was like...ncq...hmmmm so i did a quick google :P


and budz, rebates are evil i tell you EVIL!!!

[ViRaL1]

SATA and ATA?? Do you know how much before rebates?

[budz]

SATA and ATA?? Do you know how much before rebates?

It doesn't say if it's SATA or ATA. I found it at the black friday site.
http://www.bf04.com/

[glockjs]

actually that doesnt look so bad, hmmmmm

[budz]

the day after thanksgiving sale at COMPUSA will also have a MAXTOR 200GB hd for $89.99.