Building a New PC: Need segestions/opions on a MB!

[Grant_H]

I'm Building a new PC compleatly from scratch, and since it's been about 3 years since I've put one together, and there are just so many MB out there right now I'm not sure which one to buy. I'm thinking of going with a P4, or mabey a duel processer unit, but that might get to pricey. Any input is greatly appreciated. Thanks

Grant

[SLICK RICK]

ASUS

[bazooka]

It depends on what you are wanting to do with your system and how much you are willing to spend.

I usually build amd systems, and I usually go for the mobo/cpu combo deals.

I recommend you get an atlon64 system.

You can get them fairly cheap.

[Grant_H]

It's going to be kind of an all around system, for encoding, video capture, and some gameing.

[budz]

SLICK RICK wrote:

ASUS

get a NORTHWOOD PENT 4 chip because the PRESCOTT chips temperatures run hotter. Order your stuff from NEWEGG.COM cuz they ROCK!

[rallynavvie]

How much do you want to spend? That will make most of the decisions for you. If you want to go SMP you're going to be starting at $2000 for something up-to-date.

[Grant_H]

I was thinking of keeping it around $1500 for the hardware components excluting the Monitor

[rallynavvie]

OK I was going to price out an Athlon FX platform until I found that Asus doesn't make a 939/940 board with PCI-E. In fact neither do Gigabyte, MSI, and Iwill. WTF is up with that? I thought the FX was the pinnacle of single CPU rigs...

[AND1]

NFORCE4 will be released by the end of the month and will be 939 socket with PCI-E SLI

[LSchafroth]

OK I was going to price out an Athlon FX platform until I found that Asus doesn't make a 939/940 board with PCI-E. In fact neither do Gigabyte, MSI, and Iwill. WTF is up with that? I thought the FX was the pinnacle of single CPU rigs...

The KT880 chipset actually beat teh new Nforce 4 PCI-E motherboard. I know the other one is still under development. If you need something now the KT880 chipset on a ASUS board is a killer system. The current AGP cards have the same performance as the PCI-E counterparts so far.

Just depends on how long you want to wait. True performancwe gains from PCI-E are still months away.

LS

[Faustus]

FYI to those who missed it. The new 90nb Athlon 64 3000 over clocks like a mofo and without much tweaking beats the pants off an FX. I think it was talked about on anandtech.com.

Personally I'm not into overclocking but the kind of speeds they got from that thing makes it temping.

[Capmaster]

Tyan rules

[Grant_H]

Is there any real advantage to go with the athlon 64 chip over a P4 HT. I've decided not to go the duel unit route, I think it will get a little too expesive right now.

[Faustus]

Well that specific chip over clocked is whipping the pants off the P4 HT also. Hell I'd take a normal Athlon XP over a P4 HT personally.

[bazooka]

Is there any real advantage to go with the athlon 64 chip over a P4 HT. I've decided not to go the duel unit route, I think it will get a little too expesive right now.

Yes.

The athlon 64 runs 32 bit applications better than most 32 bit processors and you will be set for 64 bit apps eliminating the need for upgrading.

[Grant_H]

I think I'll go with the Athlon 64, any recomendations on wich chip/MB to get or chip board combo pakage

[Cobra]

Asus have proven to be rock solid motherboards in all the machines I have built.

[linux-works]

worth noting (as was told to me, earlier) that some programs want to see intel chips for the SSE instructions.

tmpgenc is such a beast. in this case, I wonder how much slower you get on an AMD vs intel p4? since they optimized the code for p4 ;(

still, for things that don't have hand-tweaking, my hunch is that amd64 is better.

I just can't decide on which chipset to go for. none really thrill me for the socket 939, as of right now.

[Faustus]

worth noting (as was told to me, earlier) that some programs want to see intel chips for the SSE instructions.

tmpgenc is such a beast. in this case, I wonder how much slower you get on an AMD vs intel p4? since they optimized the code for p4 ;(

still, for things that don't have hand-tweaking, my hunch is that amd64 is better.

I just can't decide on which chipset to go for. none really thrill me for the socket 939, as of right now.

Athlon 64 should have SSE and SSE 2.