joining movies in DVD-Lab

[Invader Bugs]

hey, im making a dvd in DVD-Lab, and the dvd has the "movie" consist of many clips, and the clips are all converted to DVD format from TMPGEnc already, but they are all separate files, is there any way to join the clips together into one title in DVD-Lab? thanks

[troyvcd1]

There is no way to link them but you can put all of them in separate movies and just link them to run one after another.

[DaveS]

There is no way to link them but you can put all of them in separate movies and just link them to run one after another.

ok, I'm being lazy - how do you link them?

[Invader Bugs]

really? you cant? darn, well, is there any program that join join all of the .m2v files and .wav files into 2 big .m2v and .wav files? without havent to convert anything again?

[troyvcd1]

There are programs that can join files but you are setting yourself up for audio sync issues when you try this. If you just link them in dvdlab they should run seemlessly one after the other.

[Invader Bugs]

oh, ok, i get it now, i thought you meant something like i would have to access each one separately. how do i link the the videos?

[mastersmurfie]

There is no way to link them but you can put all of them in separate movies and just link them to run one after another.

ok, I'm being lazy - how do you link them?

oh, ok, i get it now, i thought you meant something like i would have to access each one separately. how do i link the the videos?

Create a new "movie" for each mpg file (each m2v and wav file)

Under "Connections" just draw links between each movie.

They will (should) play in order

mastersmurfie

[DaveS]

mastersmurfie - maybe this will stall my need (i.e. want) to buy womble mpeg vcr for a while... ... thanks....

[babyboo]

If you just link them in dvdlab they should run seemlessly one after the other.

I have to disagree with the "seemlessly" aspect. There will be a slight delay (up to a few seconds depending on your player) as the laser repositions itself to the next clip. It would be seemless if the clips were joined directly, however, as pointed out it can cause undesirable a/v sync issues. Linkingin DVDLAB is probably the way to go as long as you don't mind a slight delay.

[tmw]

There will be a slight delay (up to a few seconds depending on your player) as the laser repositions itself to the next clip. It would be seemless if the clips were joined directly, however, as pointed out it can cause undesirable a/v sync issues. Linkingin DVDLAB is probably the way to go as long as you don't mind a slight delay.

Why would there be a laser reposition issue? DVDLAB will take all the clips (it calls movies) and create larger VOB files from them, along with the IFO files. The larger file plays all the movies seemlessly on my standalone player.

It seemed painful at first, where each clip was a different movie, but then I just understood the terminology difference. What I think of as a Movie, DVDLAB considers a project. What I think of as a clip, DVDLAB considers a movie....

[babyboo]

Maybe it is just my player but I hear the reposition or "shuttle" type sound and experience a delay between individual MPEGs that I loaded into DVDLAB as separate movies with links between them (not return links to the menu). The first time that I load the disc there sems to be a delay of about 3 - 4 seconds between each. If I leave the disc in and simply stop and start the disk again the delay drops to around 2 seconds. Perhaps it is, as I said, a limitation of my specific player.

Edit: Hang on a minute...The two discs that first come to mind may have been ones that I created with TMPGENC DVD Author (as I use that occasionaly). That would make more sense since those would have been created with separate title sets. I will check the two discs this evening if I have some time.

[mastersmurfie]

Why would there be a laser reposition issue? DVDLAB will take all the clips (it calls movies) and create larger VOB files from them, along with the IFO files. The larger file plays all the movies seemlessly on my standalone player.

It seemed painful at first, where each clip was a different movie, but then I just understood the terminology difference. What I think of as a Movie, DVDLAB considers a project. What I think of as a clip, DVDLAB considers a movie....

Exactly!

I just went back and watched one of the first full "movie" DVDs that I made from a capture from TV. (this was before I discovered Womble Mpeg) It was a three hour movie (including commercials and all), from which the commercials were cut out, and each piece saved as an individual MPEG with TMPGEnc. Resulting mpegs were loaded into DVD-lab as individual movies, with links to from each movie to the next one. I created a simple text menu (as the "chapter selections" menu), and burned it. It still plays flawlessly (ie no "hiccups" between the different "movies"), even almost a year later on a PRINCO(!!) disc...

Even though there are 14 different "movies", DVD-lab still only created one title set.


mastersmurfie

[Invader Bugs]

Even though there are 14 different "movies", DVD-lab still only created one title set.

alright, well, i have a question about this, say i want to make chapters within the individual clips, like for example, i wanted the clips to play in this order:
clip, clip(2 chapters), clip(3 chapters), clip.

now, if it makes one title set, would the result be on title set with 7 chapters (the clips with no chapters in them get their own chapter, then there are the clips with chapters in them)

or how would this work? i am very confused

[mastersmurfie]

If I understand your question correctly, yes.

clip one=first chapter
clip two=second and third chapter
clip three=fourth fifth and sixth chapter
clip four=seventh chapter

I had to try this out to better understand. I loaded 3 individual movies into DVD-lab, made chapter points in two of them, and then compiled it. When played in PowerDVD, the first "movie" is the first chapter, and so on.

[Invader Bugs]

yes, that is what i meant, and thanks for checking that out.

[tmw]

There will be a slight delay (up to a few seconds depending on your player) as the laser repositions itself to the next clip. It would be seemless if the clips were joined directly, however, as pointed out it can cause undesirable a/v sync issues. Linkingin DVDLAB is probably the way to go as long as you don't mind a slight delay.

Why would there be a laser reposition issue? DVDLAB will take all the clips (it calls movies) and create larger VOB files from them, along with the IFO files. The larger file plays all the movies seemlessly on my standalone player.

Okay, I may have to eat some crow here. I burned a mini-DVD tonight, with like 20 "movies" with DVD-LAB . When I compiled it, the 20 clips went into one VTS_01_01.VOB file(~650k). When I play this on my cheapo Mintek dvd player, I do get little slight delays when one clip ends, and another begins (even though they are in the same file). It sounds like a laser reposition type thing, as babyboo suggested.

My mpeg is D/2 (352x480) in a D1 project. It was burned (and played) on a CD-R, in mini-DVD. Not sure if those might be factors.

Had I combined the clips in Womble, I'm sure this wouldn't have been an issue. (which it's not an issue for me--I won't go through the effort to fix it, because I don't care; but you could if you wanted to).

I continue to learn.

[mastersmurfie]

Okay, I may have to eat some crow here. I burned a mini-DVD tonight, with like 20 "movies" with DVD-LAB . When I compiled it, the 20 clips went into one VTS_01_01.VOB file(~650k). When I play this on my cheapo Mintek dvd player, I do get little slight delays when one clip ends, and another begins (even though they are in the same file). It sounds like a laser reposition type thing, as babyboo suggested.

My mpeg is D/2 (352x480) in a D1 project. It was burned (and played) on a CD-R, in mini-DVD. Not sure if those might be factors.

the part in bold above could be part of the "delay" problem??? Maybe your player doesn't really like miniDVDs?

I could be completely wrong, as I have only really made a few complete "true" DVDs this way (with several mpegs as movies)...my player likes them though, and that's the important part to me...

mastersmurfie

[tmw]

Maybe your player doesn't really like miniDVDs?

I thought that might be the case, but it only occurs at the transition from one clip to the next clip. Mini-DVDs with large clips (combined in Womble) are not a factor. I also notice that if I'm fast-forwarding (at say 16x), the player will return to normal 1x play speed when it goes through the transition to a new 'movie'.

I think the effect is magnified because my player is quite inexpensive. I also imagine the D/2 clips in a D1 project may also play a part. But I was surprised to see this effect is real, and does exist...

[petar]

DVD-Lab puts each movie in a separate title. The play between the titles is non-seamless by default. This will always cause a small pause on a standalone player and will range from almost unnoticable to maybe a second or two, depending on the player. Also depends on the way (order) the movies are physically recorded on the disc.

I also notice that if I'm fast-forwarding (at say 16x), the player will return to normal 1x play speed when it goes through the transition to a new 'movie'

That's normal. Needs to jump to a new title.