HP DVD writer & My DVD

[skseah]

Hi,
I tried making DVD from my DV camera, but there are still quite alot of artifacts for fast motion. I am using the MyDVD program that comes with the writer. Any one with experience using other methods to capture DV and convert files for MyDVD to write into a DVD?

[Baldrick]

Use another application for the conversion to mpeg2 like TMPGEnc. http://www.vcdhelp.com/tmpgencdvd.htm

[lrama1]

skseah,
where did you buy your HP DVD writer?
Is it the dvd100i ?

[Octagon]

yeAH TELL US NOW.

[scottwiggins]

Don't know about the model, but I saw an HP dvdwriter at FRY'S yesterday for 549. Too rich for me still

[lrama1]

some sites have it on their online store but if you call them, they'll say that it is still not in stock. i want to buy from a store who already have it in stock.

[skseah]

It is the DVD100i. I bought it from Singapore HP. Thanks for the tmpgenc site. Will try and see if I can get better picture quality.

[skseah]

Hi,
I tried the Tmpgenc, and I do get good pictures, but when the camera pans from left to right ot right to left, the pictures seems jerky, as if some frames as missing. Any idea why? or how can I minimise these effects?

[ntserver545]

I have the MY dvd software and I use TMPEG to encode AVI files to DVD compliant mpeg file at 7.0 MB birate and inported to my dvd and it plays fine with no artifacts. My theory was if you was suffering artifacts in mpeg file encoded by tmpeg , Then remove the quicktime reader file and it does make a diffrence.
Give it a try

[skseah]

Thanks. I will give it a try, ie. increase the bit-rate and remove the quicktime reader.

[skseah]

Hi,
I have been trying for the last 2 weeks, every now and then, but still have not got 'good' picture quality, especialy of high movement panning scenes.

[Greg12]

you are running Motion Estimation Search at it's highest possible setting.

It will take a ton of time but it reduces ariftacts in high speed video.

[gimp]

Bestbuy.com has been advertising the HP DVD Burner on the website. I wanting for it to drop in price a little bit more. The pioneer burner went from 1,000 to 550 on some sites in less than 6 months.

[Dward]

If you go directly to hpshopping.com, you can order it directly from HP. It will cost about $50 more than it will at Best Buy, if/when it gets there.

I got mine a week and a half ago. Works great in Win2000 Pro, but the drivers aren't ready for WinXP yet. My picture isn't crystal clear yet when I capture TV to MPEG2 with my ATI AIW Radeon, but I'm working on it.

[DutVid]

I have the same problems with my writer i got just this week.
I've been trying to use 'Minerva Impression' which came with my Adobe Premier (with my Pinacle DV500) to create a valid DVD image.

Apart from the jerkiness in short videoclips, I have the problem Impression keeps crashing (Abnormal program termination) when I encode longer clipe (say >1 hour).
Well , I'll tray MyDVD now (it came with my writer as well).

My question to you all is. I now use Adobe Premier to create the MPEG2 files. Will TMPGEnc give me better quality?
(As it is easier to use Adobe Premiere directly)

thnx

[Dward]

At first I tried other programs to capture, but never got very good results. Capturing directly with MyDVD seems the best answer so far. It'll create the mpeg2 files for you, but it only gives you 3 options for picture quality.

If you put the files to hard disk (using MyDVD) instead of straight to DVD, MyDVD will create the mpeg2 files, then process them as it marshalls the files to DVD later.

Be sure to read the PDF documentation (I think I got it from the Sonic site) to read how we're really supposed to do it. I made assumptions and was disappointed. Once I read the docs, Things got much better.

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[DutVid]

Dward you said " Capturing directly with MyDVD seems the best answer so far. "
I've looked in the program and help-files but could not find any means of directly capturing with MyDVD(I must admit didn't check the PDF yet, will do so now(is on my CDROM)).

It does state you can use captured video material. But the AVI's my Pinnacle DV500 creates are rejected by MyDVD ("A file dropped on the palette window could not be inserted because of an invalid media type&quot
What version of MyDVD are you using? Or maybe your ATI capturecard is supported by MyDVD, as opposed to my DV500...

[RimmeR]

I use my DVD 2.3 with my Pioneer Writer. What do you use to capture your AVI's (FIREWIRE??) and which program? I used screenalzer to capture from Dv but when i then encode in tmpeg and try to input mpeg into mydvd i get the following message - My DVD cannot use this file. It has missing sequence headers before each GOP. What settings or template do you use in TMPeg??

Is it the latest version "MyDVD 3"?

I have tried to capture using firewire in premiere 5.1c but dont get any picture...any suggestions?

Thanks
Rimmer

[DutVid]

Well, my problems with the jerky movements are solved )

And as the solution is different from the ones posted in this thread I'd like to share it with you

As stated before by me, I had problems with creating VOB-files with Minerva Impressions. This was indeed solved by switching to MyDVD.

But when played on my standalone DVD-player movement was so jerky the DVD was effectively useless.
Strangely enough, when played with PowerDVD on my PC movement was just fine. However to sound sounded like a 30 year old transistor radio (yes I did encode at 48kHz). And on the standalone sound was just fine.

I remembered from ripping DVD's that you could check your field order for encoding by setting the even-odd deinterlace filter and then scrolling the video (in TMPGEnc). If you had the wrong one, your video would be jerky. You then just had to pick the other one.
This jerkiness looked a lot like the jerkiness I suffered from now.

So I had a look at the Adobe Premiere(5.1c) Settings for my MPEG2 export, and found a field order setting in the "Keyframe and Rendering options" tab in the Export Movie Settings. I my case setting this from "No Fields" to "Upper Field First" solved my jerky movements completely !!

In my case changing the bitrate did nothing to improve jerky movements.

And although in some other case your field order may be Lower instead of Upper my advise would be to check your field order when you're suffering from jerky movements in your DVD's

Joost.

[mol3000]

is there a way to make that mydvd burn pass the marcro (whatever) when u tryin to record dvd to dvd ?????

[DutVid]

What marcro are you referring to?

And.. you mean dvd to dvd like copying. I think you'd better be off using a cd/dvd burning program like Nero or something.
This of course only works for DVD's created by yourself or commercial single sided/single layer/not encrypted DVD's.
Otherwise you will have to do something with the VOB's

So frankly, not sure what your getting at.

[Dward]

DutVid and RimmeR - you asked "What version of MyDVD are you using"

It's the 3.0 version that shipped with the DVD100i. I have an ATI AIW Radeon, and at first I thought I had to capture using ATI's utilities and convert, but that was wrong, and gave poor results. When you start MyDVD's capture util, you select what source you have (mine with the ATI AIW-Rad was the normal video in from the AIW and line in), and you capture directly into MyDVD using MyDVD's capture util.

It's in the pdf on page 40 (see below for location of pdf), but that's the only way I could find that I got the choice of "Good-Better-Best" for capture quality... not converting some other program's output. I haven't found it anywhere else yet, and it isn't perfectly intuitive since we're used to the "capture-convert-burn" steps using 3 different programs!

The video is displayed in MyDVD's window without invoking an external program (no buggy ATI crap, no TMPGEnc conversion). Sound doesn't play on mine during capture, but works fine on playback, so I'm living with it.

Burning took almost 3 hours for a 3 hour DVD (2 hours to convert, and 1 hour of burn), but the DVD creation is really only one step once you start the final "Make DVD" process. No, I didn't use the Direct to DVD capability since I thought burning a DVD for one 30 minute VHS-C tape was a bit overkill.

Insofar as capturing a firewire source, sorry but that's next on my agenda (almost done putting old home movies on DVD), but the MyDVD docs (the PDF page 40) say to do it the same way, and just use the correct input device (the firewire port). Except that the "VCR" control buttons work for the DV device in the MyDVD window. When I was capturing my old VCR output, I had to hit the VCR controls by hand.

I found the PDF locally after install at
c:\Program Files\HP CD-DVD\MyDVD\Documentation\English

BTW - no sound/vid sync problems at all!