Subtitles positioning

[chimaera15]

I have a widescreen divx and I want to add subtitles...I'm using ffdshow and tmpgend to convert it to svcd, but even if I configure ffdshow to place the subtitles at the bottom of the screen it keeps doing so but on the bottom of the image..

I want the subtitles to appear in the black boxes below the image...Is this possible and if so how?

Thank you...

[andkiich]

The only time I've ever seen that is with "pseudo" widescreen stuff.

If it's true widescreen then the black sections at top and bottom are cliped and not there. The only place to put the subtitle mapping is on the image.

I'd think that you would have to encode the widescreen at full 720X480(576 for PAL) and keep the black bars in the encode. There would be a physical location for the subtitles to be on then.

[chimaera15]

is it possible to add the black bars on the bottom? like a mask?

[zilog_jones]

Don't forget about the overscan on normal TVs though! With 576-line PAL, you won't see roughly the bottom-most 8 lines (it's probably about 6 lines with NTSC), but not all TVs are exactly the same with this.

So just don't put the subtitles *too* low if you want to be able to see all of them on a CRT TV!

[jimA]

I'm doing this right now... with a 2.33:1 movie (wider than 16:9). Haven't checked end-result though.

Instead of using virtualdub, textsub, and frameserving, I used this guide
https://www.videohelp.com/guides.php?link=262

Using vobsub, when tmpgenc is running, there's a green arrow in the taskbar(?) way out to the right. Dblclick and the configuration dialog pops up. In a combobox select "extend to 16:9" and somewhere it says 50 in one box and 80 in another. Change the 80 to 100.

/jima

[mats.hogberg]

The vobsub or FFDShow way to add subs to an AVI won't work the way you want it to. The subs are rendered on the source before it reaches TMPGEnc (no borders here) and TMPGEnc letterboxes the image (adding black bars below and above).
What you have to do is to use the resize and letterbox filter in virtualdub, then add the subtitle filter then frame serve to TMPGEnc.

/Mats

[jimA]

As I said, I haven't seen the end result on a tv. But I fired the vcd-mpg up with PowerDvd and WMP and it has nice letterboxing with subs in them. (.sub file is deleted)

So I think it will look OK on a tv too.

But could you explain (in detail covering both pal and ntsc) how to use virtualdub resize-filter ?

I would like virtualdub to letterbox and add subs, and then frameserve to tmpgenc. Because I think I will have trouble using only tmpgenc and vobsub, when tmpgenc batch encodes 4 films with different subtitles, and different settings (16:9, 4:3, fontsizes etc).

/jima

[mats.hogberg]

Read guides and howtos left...

/Mats

[jimA]

I have now seen the end results on the standalone, and it works great.

On a 16:9 movie it puts the subs in the bottom of the pic, and on a 2.33:1 movie it puts them in the lower black border.

Perfect.

/jima