Vegas 5 or Adobe prem 7

[mol3000]

If u had a choice to learn one of the authuring programs (vegas 5 or primo 7) which one and why would u use and learn it ?????

[BJ_M]

neither one is an authoring app

[guns1inger]

To elaborate, both of these packages are editing applications only. If want an opinion of which is best for editing, I suggest you post in the editing forum. Both of these packages do have stablemates that do author - DVD Architect 2 partners with Vegas, Adobe Encore with Premiere. You try asking about those here instead.

[mol3000]

u right... my fault..... was a little tipsy lst nite when i wrote this so u gotta forgive me :P

[Zetti]

First of all, please, let's ask a moderator or the original creator to move it to the apropriate forum...

[mol3000]

yea he's already did it and closed the one i had open in this forum because i made the mistake back to business..... so can anyone help me with the question

[Redd]

You understand that you'll just get personal opinions on this question, right?

Personal preference...Vegas 4 or 5 with DVDA 1 or 2. This was a no brainier

[kickbxn5]

I like ppro myself. Steep learning curve if you are new to it though.

[mol3000]

yes... i know i will get personal opionions and yea pro does have a MAD LEARNING CURVE

[BodaZoffa]

It's a toss up for me...

You have more control with Pro, but I feel I can be more creative with Vegas. Pro has more advanced title features, but Vegas has better sound editing features.

One big advantage that Vegas has over Premiere, is that Vegas is by far a more stable program.


Boda

[BJ_M]

with vegas 5 , it isnt even close ... blows PP away

[mol3000]

with vegas 5 , it isnt even close ... blows PP away

But how does it blow i away???? also who has the most effects that i can add to my movies

[racer-x]

I doubt any one is that much better than the other. I'm a Premiere fan and can do anything I want with Premiere. I know many people prefer Vegas. I even tried it once on a freinds PC, though I couldn't make heads or tails out of it. I guess I'm just too used to doing things the Premiere way. Vegas looked totally forein to me.

I'd say it all boils down to the one your comfortable with. After all, if you can't work with it, it's useless.

[BJ_M]

there are a lot of transistions in both , maybe a few more in vegas -- but in real movie making , its very rare that you use more than about 3 or 4 transistions ...

for some special effect advertising or wedding or rock videos yes -- maybe , though even then it can look like its out of the 70/80's

here is a sample of some composting and editing all done in vegas 4 that i did .. http://www.vegasusers.com/vidshare/textdisp?bjm-simex_iwerks_sm33

you can see a lot of vegas examples here http://www.vegasusers.com/vidshare/ (note - NOT streaming video - you have to right click and save and watch cus they are comming off a fairly slow server)


stonefield-dancinstreet.wmv at that site is a real good one ..

[racer-x]

I'm downloading your clip now. It'll be over an hour before I can see it (dail-up sucks!). I'd love to post some of my work, but Dail-up prohibits it. Not to mention, I don't have web storage.

Can't wait to see your work, though.

[Redd]

@BJ_M

Excellent work. Thanks, proves my point why I use and recommend Vegas.

[racer-x]

Nice work BJ_M .

Did you do it all within Vegas? I smell a little After Effects, like maybe the shine on filter on the text at the beginning.

What did you use for the 3-d rendering, or are they caps from a video game?

All in all, good stuff!

I'm pretty sure Premiere could easily handle it as well, though.

[BJ_M]

no - all done in vegas .. the 3d stuff stuff is all done in maya and from various film of ours .. it was done for a trade show and done in about 3 hours i think ..

[BodaZoffa]

I doubt any one is that much better than the other. I'm a Premiere fan and can do anything I want with Premiere. I know many people prefer Vegas. I even tried it once on a freinds PC, though I couldn't make heads or tails out of it. I guess I'm just too used to doing things the Premiere way. Vegas looked totally forein to me.

I'd say it all boils down to the one your comfortable with. After all, if you can't work with it, it's useless.

Vegas' interface is totally foreign to just about any editing program out there. Most of the controls are right there on the clip in the video line (ie. fade, slow motion, pan/zoom etc.) It took me awhile to get use to that, since Premier's controls are down below or almost hidden. Once you get use to it, though, you'll love it.

Vegas gets a bad rap from the high end users like Avid or Final Cut, but it is one hell of a good program.


Boda

[mol3000]

just got the trial version and tryin it now..... the only problem now is that it locked my laptop up (try editing on the go) like its little brother sony blast did..... i hope this isnt constant..... willl let u know


PS... JUST TRYED IMPORTING MY MPEG 2 VIDEO INTO IT TO EDIT AND IT WONT DO IT.... IS THERE SOMETHING EXTRA I NEED?????

[BJ_M]

yes - register it ... for mpeg support ...

[BJ_M]

Sheryl Crow just did a video and performance on a United Airlines flight from Chicago to LA. Not only did the editing with Vegas 5 take place on the plane, but the performance was recorded as well. This concert in the sky was a shot on five Sony XDCam cameras then the discs were handed to the editor (Timothy Duncan) with less than an hour before landing. He was able to digitize five camera angles of almost five minutes each and do a multi-camera edit on his lap-top delivering a four and a half minute finished music video on both DV and Hi-8 including showing the video to Sheryl for approval. Just after landing, the tape was uplinked via satellite as part of a huge press event for Sony Connect and United Airlines.
No one could believe that it could be done and delivered that quickly.

Then during the cab ride over to Sony Music for a grand finalle party, He did color correction on one of the camera angles and delivered a DVD that was shown during the party. Thier team worked together very well to make this possible. Can you imagine a steadycam on a plane? Plus lights and portable sound system? It was amazing.

Vegas got a lot of press on this one as the press filmed the editor working on his laptop during the fast production.

[mol3000]

cant find the plugin for that mpeg 2.... can anyone help me yet

[guns1inger]

I also prefer Vegas for it's audio abilities. It is incredibly quick and easy to set up a multi-channel (5.1) sound track with keyed panning from channel to channel - and it is a visual process as well. I understand Premiere Pro's audio capabilites are an improvement on previous versions, but they don't seem to be anywhere near Vegas. (Plus almost seamless integration with Sound Forge)

[hexxisoft]

ive been editing with vegas for almost two years. countless short films and other nonsense. i've used premiere, avid, but none of them had the speed or compatibility that vegas had. you can open anything in vegas...avi, mpeg 1,2, mov, wmv. many other NLEs are limited.

I'm editing my full length with it this summer. I recommend it to everybody. I love vegas.

[rbmerc]

well i picked up premiere pro and started doing stuff with it real easily... i dont know why but i just understood a lot of stuff and the help file explained a lot... i figured i had heard a lot about vegas so i would check it out, but daaaang i turned it on and was just confused... i really couldn't do much, but oh well maybe i should invest some time in learning it first before judging it.. it just looks kinda hard to me and i dont know if i should stick with premiere pro which i am starting to get the hang of good or switch over to vegas

-merc

[mol3000]

ok.... i put 5 on my main computer and put that bs .net frame work on here and not its making me click a button after i restart my computer to get in my computer.... i went to msconfig and uncheck some things i was told to do a time back but it didnt work..... how can i chge my xp back to what it was where when i start up it just comes up regulary

[BJ_M]

disable aspnet user from your user base -- or remove it


thats all that is required ..

[choirislife923]

for authoring, i like Ulead DVD Workshop 2. it has 5.1 support, multiple VTS support, and 3 of my personal favorites: Macrovision, CSS, and Region lockout. No, i'm not some crazy person who copy-protects home videos, I run a video business, so if a person tries to copy a DVD, the simple noob wont be able to without researching. In turn, that means more profit for me (i charge $15 per additional DVD after the 1st one)!

[BJ_M]

how you do that if you are burning them ? CSS is done during pressing