More Frontpage woes....help?

[Red96TA]

I have a two page site set up, but I can't see the pages in the 'navigation' section to set up links between the pages...anybody know how to do this?

[tito13kfm]

Click here for page 2

sorry, i don't have any clue how to use frontpage. just open the html file in a text editor and add a link manually is what I would do.

[Red96TA]

Tito,

I've done that. In 'preview' mode, the link for 'contact us' will light up as it should, but when clicked, won't go to the 'contact us' page...even after hyperlinking to the page and saving.

[Conquest10]

Are you sure you typed it in exactly as it should be? The slightest change can alter the result in ways you'd never imagine.

[lordsmurf]

Can you post page code? Don't know what I'm looking for.

[tgpo]

Yes. Please post the code so we can we what's wrong.

[Red96TA]

Here's the string:

<table width="178" height="41" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0"><tr valign="top"><td width="178" height="11">[img]buttontop.jpg[/img]</td></tr><tr valign="top"><td width="178" height="20" background="buttonbg.jpg">[img]buttonspcr.gif[/img]
Contact Us
</td></tr><tr valign="top"><td width="178" height="12">[img]buttonbottom.jpg[/img]</td></tr></table>


All the other jibberish is the button setup.

[tgpo]

Remove the %20 and just have a space there

[Red96TA]

Ok...that works, but only in the 'preview page' screen (the one that pops up everything in IE, not the built in 'preview'

Do my pages need to be in special folder for me to see them in: views-->navigation?

thanks

[tgpo]

...I'm afraid that's where you lost me. I know HTML, I've never used FrontPage before.

[pacmania_2001]

Change the page name you are linking to from contact us.html to something like contact.us.html or contact_us.html then see if it works.

Also change the code in the html to represent the new name you have given the file i.e:

Contact Us

[tgpo]

What's wrong with spaces? I use them all the time and they work just fine. The web browser handles them properly. Are spaces in file names discouraged?

[pacmania_2001]

I'm not sure if they are wrong, just discouraged as they can cause issues with compatibility.

I've always been taught to use dots or underlines instead of spaces or hyphens when it comes to web page use.

[tgpo]

Strange. I've used them for years in files names on teh net and never had a single problem with compatibility.

[pacmania_2001]

One of my lecturers said it had to do with older systems and also different operating systems like Unix. Plus with frontpage and all its quirks you never know what will cause (or fix) a problem.

Should be interesting to see if that fixes Red96TA's problem.

[Red96TA]

I changed 'contact us' to 'contact_us' and nothing seems to have changed...but left the underscores anyway

[pacmania_2001]

Stupid question but are you using frontpage to view your pages after you have saved them (even through the IE preview), or saving them, then clicking on the actual HTML file in its folder?

[Ironballs]

I don't use the navigation pane, always thought it a bit crappy. In Frontpage, switch to Normal View and hightlight the text/picture and right click and add your hyperlink that way.

Save your pages and crank up internet explorer to confirm that the links are successful

Good luck!

[lordsmurf]

#1 - You cannot use space in page names on most servers, including preview functions.
#2 - You sure it's .HTML and not .HTM ?

[tito13kfm]

here's an idea. put the pages live, give links to both of them, and someobdy will just look at the source and tell you what to change.

[Red96TA]

Lordsmurf.

pages were converted to html...Frontpage wanted to make them htm, but I denied them...lol

pages now have no spaces and I think everything is working for the better.

Next question: How do I send the completed site to the web?
like this?
1) register www name
2) get host (which do you guys prefer?)
3) upload all of my pages and .jpg files to the site

Frontpage is kinda like DVD-lab, except I don't really get to see what I'm doing until I'm done...ack.

[Red96TA]

one more thing...how many seconds at 28.8 is an acceptable load time? My pages are sitting at ~20 seconds for the load time.

[stiltman]

Next question: How do I send the completed site to the web?
like this?
1) register www name
2) get host (which do you guys prefer?)
3) upload all of my pages and .jpg files to the site

Frontpage is kinda like DVD-lab, except I don't really get to see what I'm doing until I'm done...ack.

It really depends on what the host servers support and what OS they are running. Most seem to be moving towards linux and are running cpanel as your GUI (simple terms) to your host. Some hosts support FP extensions, so all you have to do is hit publish to web and your set. Others require a FTP program (ws_ftp) to transfer your files. In a lot of cases, hosts don't support .asp, .aspx extensions

[Ironballs]

Red96TA,

The first thing I did was to register a domain name at 1&1

http://oneandone.co.uk

(It was cheap!)

Then I went to Lycos and signed up for free web hosting

http://www.tripod.lycos.co.uk

(Free! But has pop-up ads, they will give you a default web address, make a note of it)

Then using Smartftp I upload the web pages, including any images to Lycos

Finally, I went back to 1&1 admin page and redirected my bought domain name to the Lycos domain name.

Like stiltman says, you're not going to get many free web hosting sites that support asp or aspx, you have to pay for that sort of service.

Your own ISP may give you some free web space, look at using your ISP first, rather than Lycos since the pop-ups can be just a tad annoying.

=============================================

Now bud, if you really want to go to town with web development, you can actually set up your own web server. It sounds really technical, but with a bit of patience and reading up some excellent sites on the internet it can be done.

The beauty of having your own server are many, (more or less) unlimited web space, asp and aspx support (If you go the Micro$soft) route, and no annoying adverts.

If your sad enough to want to know the wiring details, connector images and where they are located on Jaguar cars, check my own web server at

www.perez.me.uk

To see the connector images, download the cgm viewer. (Data for the X-Type > 2004 is the most complete dataset)

I must get out more!

[pacmania_2001]

one more thing...how many seconds at 28.8 is an acceptable load time? My pages are sitting at ~20 seconds for the load time.

It's around 15 seconds for a 28.8k modem or 8 seconds for a 56k modem for the max loading time.

[stiltman]

one more thing...how many seconds at 28.8 is an acceptable load time? My pages are sitting at ~20 seconds for the load time.

It's around 15 seconds for a 28.8k modem or 8 seconds for a 56k modem for the max loading time.

Someone better tell Baldrick these rules

[lordsmurf]

Lordsmurf.

pages were converted to html...Frontpage wanted to make them htm, but I denied them...lol

pages now have no spaces and I think everything is working for the better.

Next question: How do I send the completed site to the web?
like this?
1) register www name
2) get host (which do you guys prefer?)
3) upload all of my pages and .jpg files to the site

Frontpage is kinda like DVD-lab, except I don't really get to see what I'm doing until I'm done...ack.

This all depends on features, your budget and your knowledge. I don't know where you are, what you want to spend (yearly), what the site traffic and size will be, what kind of address (.com, .org, etc), nor the ... dammit ... forgot the last thing I was gonna say.

It's all important.

[Red96TA]

Lordsmurf...

I'm looking at a simple .com address with an annual budget of a couple hundred bucks.

Where am I at? California...

Can an e-comm site run on a couple hundred a year?

[pacmania_2001]

Depends what type of e-commerce site you are setting up, like what products are you selling, what do you expect your traffic load to be, how much multimedia content you are going to have on your site etc.

[Red96TA]

Pacmania...

There won't be any multimedia on the site...it's pretty straightforward. I'm guessing that the entire site will be about 2mb (based on what I've got done so far)...

In my case, I'm sure that bandwidth is going to be more of a concern won't it? since most of the 'bargain' web hosting packages will only allow 10gb of bandwidth.

The products will be instructional videos on dvd. I figure that just about everybody I know is an expert on SOMETHING...why not have them host videos and then I can do the editing, burning, packaging, etc and then sell them on my site. Right now, the hardest part for me is figuring out Frontpage (I gave up on Dreamweaver ) Even Vegas 4.0 was easier to figure out than Frontpage.