Can't split movie to fit across multiple CD-R

[DRP]

Got this XviD encoded movie which I can convert to SVCD no problem, but unfortunately I can't find a way to cut it so that I can spread it across multiple discs. It is far too long to fit on one disc and I don't have a DVD writer.

The source file has no frozen frames or errors. TMPGEnc MPEG Tools can't split the final MPEG2 file because the playing of it stalls after about 5 seconds which crashes TMPGEnc. Using the Source Range feature works, but gives me about a 10 second audio sync problem for all sections after the first one. Splitting the souce AVI file into the required length sections also results in the same thing, The audio tracks for all sections after the first one extract as being about 10 seconds shorter than the video.

I don't know why it won't split. Has anyone else come across any videos which do this? Can anyone suggest a way around this problem please?

[bugster]

Try DVD2SVCD, it has solved similiar problems for me in the past.

[jaxxboss]

Extract the audio into a wav file in vdub, load in tmpge and encode to svcd mpeg using the video avi and the audio wav. once encoded try to split in tools. also are you sure that you are using the correct pal ntsc template? If its 23fps and ur using 29 then u can get sync issues and vice a versa with pal ...etc

[DRP]

Thanks for your replies, but I think I may now know what is causing the problem. I don't think it is a problem with TMPGEnc or any other video editing software I use. I also don't think I am doing anything wrong precedural wise.

Since WMP 6.4 stalls when playing the MPEG2 streams and *every* cutting tool I use hangs when trying to cut the stream, and all of this drama only started 2 weeks ago, I think it is related to a Windows Update patch problem. Around two weeks ago I installed all those October updates from the MicroSoft site and ever since then I've had problems. I've gone back now and uninstalled all those updates but the problem persists. I wish there was a way of finding out which one is causing the issue.

[DRP]

Problem is now solved by uninstalling Windows Security Updates one by one until it worked again. If anyone is interested, these are the security updates I had to uninstall to make things work normally again.

KB828026
KB828035
KB826232
KB825119
KB823182
KB824146
KB824105

I don't know which one specifically was causing the problem, but the order listed above is the order in which I removed them and normality didn't return until I had uninstalled the last one - KB824105.

Perhaps that means this one was the culprit - or maybe it is a combination of all of them, I don't know, but beware that these updates cause more problems than they fix.

[jaxxboss]

WMP has nothing to do with cutting a file. especialy 6.4 which you shouldnt use for mpeg2 anyway. Security updates..hmm, i dont think so either. Most likely your encode got hosed(to be technical).

[DRP]

WMP has nothing to do with cutting a file. especialy 6.4 which you shouldnt use for mpeg2 anyway. Security updates..hmm, i dont think so either. Most likely your encode got hosed(to be technical).

Know I know WMP doesn't have anything to do with cutting a file. I was just using WMP to check the symptom (not being able to seek a video file) that I knew would also cause TMPGEnc to fall over when trying to cut the file. It was quicker and easier to do this than start up TMPGEnc and wait for it to crash.

All I can tell you is that I uninstalled these updates one by one (with a reboot in between each one) and then tried viewing the video with WMP after each one. When I had uninstalled the ones listed above the problem had suddenly gone away and WMP worked as should again and lo and behold, TMPGEnc MPEG Tools worked again as well.

[jaxxboss]

I wouldnt sacrafice secuirty updates in lieu of getting tmpge to work correctly. You may want to instal each one back with a re boot in between one at a time and check tmpge also at that time before the next update. Also, 6.4, are u running 98? anyway, try power dvd to view your mpeg 2

[DRP]

I wouldnt sacrafice secuirty updates in lieu of getting tmpge to work correctly. You may want to instal each one back with a re boot in between one at a time and check tmpge also at that time before the next update. Also, 6.4, are u running 98? anyway, try power dvd to view your mpeg 2

That's a good suggestion. When I've got the time I'll do that to try and narrow down exactly which one is causing the problem, but right now I really need TMPGEnc MPEG Tools to work before I run out of HDD space.

My profile shoud tell you what OS I'm running. I'm using W2K SP3. I use WMP 6.4 because I like it, it works, it's familiar, easy to use, doesn't have any bloat like every other media player and it does everything I need it to.

I also have PowerDVD installed and this is obviously where WMP 6.4 gets the MPEG2 codec to enable it to play the SVCD files I make. I don't use PowerDVD to view videos though - there are too many steps required - it's easier just to use WMP... double click and you're done.

I don't watch entire videos on the computer screen anyway. I only use the computer to preview or check the video. Serious watching is always done on TV via DVD player.

[Nelson37]

Good info. M$ may have replaced an audio codec or some such in one of those security updates, I would not be surprised.

BBMpeg can remux and spit to size, with optional overlap. Most others cut by time and not size, you have to guess.

I find WinDVD gives best simulation of standalone DVD, primarily in regards to audio synch. Had problems with many other players.

[jaxxboss]

there are too many steps required - it's easier just to use WMP... double click and you're done.

That's only becuase your media file is associated with wmp. Just associate your media files with power dvd and guess what...yup, double click and you're done And I dont look at profiles, some have em, some dont so i hardly bother. I know how u feel about liking 6.4 as i was the same way for awhile, but ya gotta roll with the punches sometimes and trade ur old car in(or wife) for a newer model. I guess if you're comfortable with it then fine, but i think it's just the learning curve that u dont wanna mess with, Im guilty of that myself sometimes. I dont use wmp 9 except for music, power dvd or sasumi(sp) for video. and hardly burn tv shows, just watch thru the tv out card via 40 foot rca cable to the other room's big screen.

[DRP]

I have now slowly one-by-one reinstalled all the Windows updates I suspected to be the cause of the above described problem and I can report that they are NOT the cause of the TMPGEnc MPEG Tools crashing problem.

The cause is in fact v0.70b of the AC3 Filter. I have placed a comment about this problem for this tool. I am absolutely 100% confident that this is the cause now. I can install the filter and MPEG Tools crashes, as soon as I uninstall the filter it works again. I can do this as many times as I want and the result is always the same.

I'm looking for another way to open and extract AC3 audio from video files in GoldWave now apart from the AC3 Filter. Anyone know of any AC3 plug-ins for GoldWave out there?

Installing and Uninstalling this AC3 Filter is getting pretty tiresome.

Thanks.

[johns0]

dvd2svcd (as Bugster has already stated)can do what you want without installing any ac3 codecs

[vhelp]

hay johns0,

true, but isn't BBMPEG being used ala AC3 (hence, no codec required)
when using dvd2svcd ??

Weather true or not though, what wrong w/ MUXing afterwards, DRP ?
-vhelp

[johns0]

vhelp,the audio is converted to mp2 before it gets to the bbmpeg stage.

[vhelp]

oh, my mistake. I thought that bbmpeg could convert to AC3 too
and that dvd2svcd converted .wav to .ac3 on the fly, using bbmpeg.
I don't and never used dvd2svcd because of it's complexities and confusing
interface and whatnot. Anyways..
.
.
I'm also working on an WAV to AC3 app (Delphi) and w/ drag'n drop so
that there isn't any need for hopping around dialogs and things and opening
files. Anyways, I'm in the debuggin stages, when time allows :P

Thanks for the heads up,
-vhelp 2134

[ZippyP.]

Instead of cutting your mpeg you can use the source range function in TMPGEnc to select which part of the video to encode. Then batch encode to do all the parts. Works like a charm, no cutting and you can overlap the videos by few seconds as an intro.

[johns0]

Looks like drp has moved on to the audio section with this post.

[DRP]

Instead of cutting your mpeg you can use the source range function in TMPGEnc to select which part of the video to encode. Then batch encode to do all the parts. Works like a charm, no cutting and you can overlap the videos by few seconds as an intro.

Yeah I know that option exists however the last time I tried it, which was with an earlier version of TMPGEnc I admit, the result was less than satisfactory. The first segment of the video was perfect, however all subsequent segments had jerky, stuttering motion in them. It was at that point that I discovered cutting after encoding the entire video did not produce this effect. Since then I have not trusted the source range function anymore and use the merge/cut function exclusively instead.

[DRP]

Looks like drp has moved on to the audio section with this post.

There was a power cut last night where I am which fried my network card. I don't think it fried it actually - more like just wiped its BIOS memory or something because it didn't know it was a network card anymore and hence Windoze couldn't identify it as such and wouldn't install the drivers. Anyway, I've only just got out and bought a new one.

[DRP]

dvd2svcd (as Bugster has already stated)can do what you want without installing any ac3 codecs

Will installing this allow me to open the video in GoldWave?

I'm not looking for another tool to do the audio editing or extraction with. I want to be able to use GoldWave to do this because I like to do some editing of the audio which I am familiar with in GW.

[DRP]

hay johns0,

true, but isn't BBMPEG being used ala AC3 (hence, no codec required)
when using dvd2svcd ??

Weather true or not though, what wrong w/ MUXing afterwards, DRP ?
-vhelp

What does that mean?

What I'm doing is taking AVI or VOB files with AC3 tracks and converting them to SVCD. I therefore need to convert the AC3 to WAV and then to MP2. While it's in WAV format I also might need to do some minor editing like increasing the volume and doing a time warp for PAL/NTSC conversions and of course 48/44.1 resampling.

This is why I want to open it in GW. I just need a codec or tool that will allow me to open an AC3 track in GW without installing the buggy AC3 Filter