Question for LordSmurf ... what's your setup?

[trevlac]

First let me say thanks for you excellent site. It is very well written and clear. It should be obvious since I am asking the question, but I believe you get very good capture results and I want to learn more.

So to the point. I am interested in analog NTSC capture.

Do you use your JVC 9800 as a tuner/(y/c) splitter/NR cleaner and go to your ATI AIW with s-video?

I have a cheap JVC 3911 which really doesn't add much in the way of y/c and NR. The 9911 is the only model B&H only seems to have that has the "DigiPure" functions.

Finally, if I can clean up my source before I digitize it, I may be interested in direct MPEG capture.

Have you seen a difference in the Theater 200 vs the Theater chip? You have a Theater right?

Here is the best chart I've found the explain the various ATI options. Unfortunately, this doesn't seem to match to what newegg sells today. It doesn't even seem like the cards come with s-video in. Can you help?

http://www.ati.com/support/agpchart/


Trev

[lordsmurf]

I have a half dozen VCRs, and a myriad of possible setup combos.

I'm out of town right now, I'll give this attention when I get back. I was just looking for my name on the forums... got 15 minutes to kill, checking this and e-mail.

The Theatre 200 and Theatre Rage are barely 10% different. About the same results. The 200 is just less draining on the CPU (more hardware assist than previous cards).

[trevlac]

Thanks for the reply. I missed the out of town note.

I am really interested in understanding how the DNR/R3 and other PureDigi things in the JVC vcrs effect source from the tuner. JVC also touts their y/c seperation.

I'd want to go CATV-->VCR--(s-video)-->CapCard.

The vcr would be my tuner and source cleaner. I believe y/c seperation would be better in analog than trying to do it after the fact. If the xtra stuff (DNR/Sharpening) also work well on this route, it may be worth the $ to find a 9800 or 9600.

Also, I'm not clear what is worse about the 9911. These are easier to get (and cheaper). Is it the tape mechanism? Would you think there would be a difference for my use?

Any comment are much appreciated.

[lordsmurf]

If this is too brief, let me know...

DirecTV... composite goes to tv in my room.... coax goes across house to computer... all RG6 shielded good wire...

Two capture computers.... each with ATI AIW card... coax split with broadband high-DB split... powered amps on coax at both ends... coax line filters at the capture computers....

All using good electrical outlets... surges....etc...

That's for broadcast.... now for VHS/SVHS transfers...

Sharp Hifi VHS.... JVC SVHS 9800.... JVC SVHS 3800.... Samsung SV-5000W worldwide....Apex 1100W...

Can feed into DataVideo TBC-1000 if needed.... normally I use it unless it causes problems...

Cables swtiched at will depending on what I need to do... there is no "perfect" setup....

All composite cables are gold shielded and most are Monster.... s-video are good shielded cables...

Also have AVerMedia EZ DVD Maker card in one system for PAL captures... my older ATI AIW do not do PAL... but only use PAL capture when Samsung digital conversion not perfect, which can happen every now and then...

Also have 13" tv fed from TBC output (since it has multiple output) to see what the video will look like on tv ... no surprises that way...

Always use some sort of JVC filters when those are used... only use the others on rare ocassions... such as foreign source or when the JVC hates the tape...

More question... ask.... gotta be brief, sorry... lots of e-mail since I got back...

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If this is too brief, let me know...

DirecTV... composite goes to tv in my room.... coax goes across house to computer... all RG6 shielded good wire...

Two capture computers.... each with ATI AIW card... coax split with broadband high-DB split... powered amps on coax at both ends... coax line filters at the capture computers....

All using good electrical outlets... surges....etc...

That's for broadcast.... now for VHS/SVHS transfers...

Sharp Hifi VHS.... JVC SVHS 9800.... JVC SVHS 3800.... Samsung SV-5000W worldwide....Apex 1100W...

Can feed into DataVideo TBC-1000 if needed.... normally I use it unless it causes problems...

Cables swtiched at will depending on what I need to do... there is no "perfect" setup....

All composite cables are gold shielded and most are Monster.... s-video are good shielded cables...

Also have AVerMedia EZ DVD Maker card in one system for PAL captures... my older ATI AIW do not do PAL... but only use PAL capture when Samsung digital conversion not perfect, which can happen every now and then...

Also have 13" tv fed from TBC output (since it has multiple output) to see what the video will look like on tv ... no surprises that way...

Always use some sort of JVC filters when those are used... only use the others on rare ocassions... such as foreign source or when the JVC hates the tape...

More question... ask.... gotta be brief, sorry... lots of e-mail since I got back...

Thankyou!!

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If this is too brief, let me know...

DirecTV... composite goes to tv in my room.... coax goes across house to computer... all RG6 shielded good wire...

Two capture computers.... each with ATI AIW card... coax split with broadband high-DB split... powered amps on coax at both ends... coax line filters at the capture computers....

All using good electrical outlets... surges....etc...

That's for broadcast.... now for VHS/SVHS transfers...

Sharp Hifi VHS.... JVC SVHS 9800.... JVC SVHS 3800.... Samsung SV-5000W worldwide....Apex 1100W...

Can feed into DataVideo TBC-1000 if needed.... normally I use it unless it causes problems...

Cables swtiched at will depending on what I need to do... there is no "perfect" setup....

All composite cables are gold shielded and most are Monster.... s-video are good shielded cables...

Also have AVerMedia EZ DVD Maker card in one system for PAL captures... my older ATI AIW do not do PAL... but only use PAL capture when Samsung digital conversion not perfect, which can happen every now and then...

Also have 13" tv fed from TBC output (since it has multiple output) to see what the video will look like on tv ... no surprises that way...

Always use some sort of JVC filters when those are used... only use the others on rare ocassions... such as foreign source or when the JVC hates the tape...

More question... ask.... gotta be brief, sorry... lots of e-mail since I got back...

Thankyou!!

Sorry didn't read the first line. Too brief. Sorry again.

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too weird....sorry.

[trevlac]

too weird....sorry.

Not sure what this means....


@LordSmurf,

Thanks for the info. I'm much greateful

Always trying to improve my process, always looking for ideas ..

[FulciLives]

Here is a question that sorta got lost somewhere along the way ...

If you use the JVC 7000 or 9000 series which have the TBC and all the other goodies like DNR etc. then will that stuff be usable or "in effect" if you simply pass a video singal ... such as your cable TV feed ... through the JVC VCR or do these features only "kick in" when playing back a S-VHS/VHS video in the VCR?

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

[lordsmurf]

Here is a question that sorta got lost somewhere along the way ...

If you use the JVC 7000 or 9000 series which have the TBC and all the other goodies like DNR etc. then will that stuff be usable or "in effect" if you simply pass a video singal ... such as your cable TV feed ... through the JVC VCR or do these features only "kick in" when playing back a S-VHS/VHS video in the VCR?

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

Passing through is just passing through. The filters and TBC on the JVC units only kick in with tapes.

[trevlac]

@FulciLives:

Thanks for asking directly. I kept wondering, but people did not seem to use it for that, so I assumed.

@lordsmurf:

Thanks for answering!


Since we are looking for clearifications, exactly what are "line filters"? High-Pass, Low-Pass ? What range?

[lordsmurf]

DC blocks, FM traps, power AC line filters, ... nifty coax stuff... most of those are recent additions that did really good purification of the signal.