selling my dvd+rs and dvd-rs...

[hispanicboy]

ok i have started a little business where i take peoples pictures set them to music and burn em to dvd. simple enough right.

the problem comes in when i get the "this won't play on my dvd player" line. i've read all the compatibility debates between +r and -r, and i don't want another fight. i'm just wondering does anyone here do this type of work, and what type of "solutions" do you offer people.

in some instances i am doing local sports team season and am selling 50+ copies so i need to find the best way to tackle this.

for the most part i have been burning +r from discmakers but have a duel format burner and am willing to switch.

any takers?

thanks

[tompika]

A DVD+R disc burned with a DUAL writer is not as compatible as a DVD-R.

[hispanicboy]

i am actually doing most of my burning off of my dell inspiron notebook. it has a 2X+R burner, but thank you for that info. i'll file that away.

[RabidDog]

Hmm a bit obvious really ask them what it will be played on, consult the table back here. OR burn to both formats just in case. cost one blank which could be used as an archive copy?

[hispanicboy]

well that is easy when dealling with my "smallers" customers (weddings / anniversaries / high school seniors) but my larger ones where i will be making 50+ copies are the ones i am unsure of. i can not have 10-20 people having "issues" with my dvds. that does not bode well for return customers.

and even asking them what they use is a bit of a streach. most people will not be able to tell me much other than. "uh... i think it's a sony" or something i think getting a model number is expecting too much. this is not ment to be a slam of your idea RabidDog, i'm just looking for a way to eliminate most of the guess work that is involved

[SMHarman]

The videographer that I was talking on a dive trip (underwater video of dives) authored to VHS and DVD-R. Burnt on Apple magic drive (Pioneer I think). Also burn slow x1 speed. That caused less problems than trying to get them all done quickly.

Very few returns, and those that were, were supplied another -r that usually worked (so a media issue not a format or player issue).

http://www.dvdtoday.com/Recordable%20DVD%20Test.htm

Is an interesting test referred to somewhere else on here. Indicates -r is the most compatible at around 80% with slow burns and quality media.

[hispanicboy]

good resource i'll start reading. so, as of now i am leaning towards switching to -R. let's see what others have to say

[tompika]

SMHarman,
this test was really good a year and a half ago.


hispanicboy
Since your equipment is not capable of bitsetting
you'd better stick to DVD-R it is very compatible

[hispanicboy]

how can i check if my equipment is capable of bit setting?

[tompika]

its not

[hispanicboy]

ok, so i realize that it is not, or at least i am taking your word for it. but in the future if i am getting a new burner how can i check for this?

[tompika]

but in the future if i am getting a new burner how can i check for this?

Only Ricoh type burners and Benq's are.

But I'm not recruiting for DVD+R(W).
You can make very compatible DVD-Rs on good quality media with your dual burner using a good software.

[overloaded_ide]

As well as -r disks I have been told riteks do very well!

Currantly I am burning cheapo's and did not have any problems till I just bought a DP312 by Norcent!

My DP300 by norcent played everything, and my disks played in everything else I tried them in except for 2 or 3 disks.

Currantly the disks that do not play in the DP312 DO play fine in the DP300! I think this is a burning problem! Some disks I used Nero to burn (mostly the ones not working I think!) and others I used the burner in Tmpgenc DVD author, all those DO work!

So Ritek -R is good and stay away from Nero might be best bet!
Find someone with a Norcent DP312 to test a few in
Only player many of mine don't work in, so far!

[hispanicboy]

ok, well i am currently authoring in Adobe Encore, and had been eaither buring straight out of encore, or saving a dvd folder in encore and burning out of nero 6. you mentioned that Tmpgenc DVD author is good. that leads to my next question. do diffrent burrning apps really make that much of a diffrence? i am burning using the "foler" method audio / video would buring an image be better?

[hispanicboy]

another product i have considered adding is a duplicator, can anyone give feedback on that?

here is the first one i have looked at:

http://www.discmakers.com/duplicators/manual.php

model: Disc Makers Reflex1™ 4x DVD±R for $790

[hispanicboy]

anyone out there doing this type of work as a "prosumer" and have advice on what rout to go as far as dvds and labeling them?

[iooi]

have advice on what rout to go as far as dvds and labeling them?

Get printable disks and a printer to print direct to disk.

Just the printable look so much more professional.

Not that i want to get into a "Anti" sticky lables....

[Gees]

I hope this business is unrelated to your decrypter question. :c*

or pressers - or duplicators

Just can't see under what circumstances you'd need 50+ copies of the sort of video you describe.

[hispanicboy]

the decryptor question is related to this because i am trying to get my movie burned on another machine i have which does not have encore loaded on it. so i exported an "image" from encore.

as far as needing 50+ copies, well i am doing a local high school's football season and the booster club is selling it, so i am actaully going to need closer to a couple hundered. i'm shooting for 250 so i can outsorce it to discmakers, but if not i'll be doing them myself.

[Gees]

Well then - best of luck with it all.

[hispanicboy]

thanks i feel like i'm going to need it

[Gees]

Nah. Be confident. It'll carry over. :c) It sounds like a big project so soon, but also sounds like a fantastic opportunity.

Stay frosty! ;c)

[The village idiot]

If you make enough off of one of your projects you should consider something like this, made by Primera:

It would save a lot of effort, there are several models to choose from.

[hispanicboy]

i was actually planning on just buying printable blank media from diskmakers and getting an epson:

http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/consumer/consDetail.jsp?BV_UseBVCookie=yes&oid=2240...dmcfjgckidnf.0

any suggestions or cautions for that?

[iooi]

i was actually planning on just buying printable blank media from diskmakers and getting an epson:
any suggestions or cautions for that?

If you are planning on doing a lot of disks like you say. Forget the epson there are other printers that work on the same lines but can handle more than 1 disk at a time. Believe me while the Epson is good its a real pain if you are printing more than a few disks. Something along These Lines For inkjet look at the Matise Gold and the DaVinci models. Not as cheap at the last look the Matise gold was around £400..Should be something simular state side maybe even better priced.

[Gil T Pleasure]

I'm curious, how come nobody ever mentions the Pioneer drive that uses DVD-R for Authoring? I thought this format was even more compatible that DVD-R for Generel.

[The village idiot]

I'm curious, how come nobody ever mentions the Pioneer drive that uses DVD-R for Authoring? I thought this format was even more compatible that DVD-R for Generel.

Because authoring drive still run in the thousands of dollars, and the disk are many more time the price of general DVD disks. But you are correct, it will burn a more compatible disk.

[lordsmurf]

A DVD+R disc burned with a DUAL writer is not as compatible as a DVD-R.

Can I frame this and put it on my wall. :P j/k

[Stavros]

hispanicboy

You might also want to take into consideration that not all of your customers will have up to date DVD players.

I still know of people who have DVD players that won't play any writable media. If this is the case then there will be nothing you can do.

Just a thought.

[bartman]

If you are doing a lot of one offs you can try making yourself a 'demo' disc, showing off your skills, and then when the customer wants your business they can get a copy of the demo disc and then they will find out if their player will play the disc (you could give them a dual case....one disc a + and the other a -)

For larger runs though, there is really no way of knowing if the disc will work. The best you can hope for is that most people would have bought their players in the last couple of years (I personally haven't seen a player newer than 3 years that can't play DVD-+R's). You will always have people out there that have incompatable players though....it can't be helped.