pentium 4

[clipper1971]

What is the minimum/optimal power requirements for a pentium 4 1.8gig processor please (i.e, the power supply)

Thanx
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[pixel]

I think you are meaning what power of PSU to buy. If that is it, a 300 Watt should do OK.

[mrtristan]

It also depends on what peripherals you plan on adding or already have. If you're going to have a high end video card and lots of hard drives and burners, then I would go a little higher. You can never go wrong with more power, in my opinion. A higher wattage PSU won't under work, but a lesser wattage PSU can definitely be overworked.

[funkguy4]

I always get at least 400-watt for all who ask me to build them a custom low-priced comp.

[vance43211]

all gateway computers come with little power supplies.

my pent 4 has a 150watt power supply

gateway say in real world usage

that should be enough

[funkguy4]

all gateway computers come with little power supplies.

my pent 4 has a 150watt power supply

gateway say in real world usage

that should be enough

My old comp has one that's even better (230w). I doubt you have a 150 though. You need something better than that. Almost half will probably go to the processor alone.

[vance43211]

all gateway computers come with little power supplies.

my pent 4 has a 150watt power supply

gateway say in real world usage

that should be enough

My old comp has one that's even better (230w). I doubt you have a 150 though. You need something better than that. Almost half will probably go to the processor alone.

i have 150 watt power supply

let me go find the pc world article in which gateway explains that you don't really need much more

i have a 300 watt power supply on my amd 1200 computer

[zodiac]

gateway doesn't need as much power as a real computer.
it has low quality parts and on board stuff.
150w does seem low though.
a p4 should have at least 300w.more if you have alot of stuff hooked up.
http://www.pcpowercooling.com/maxpc/index_cases.htm

[gmatov]

Don't doubt Vance on the wattage of his Gateway.
I just replaced PSU on an e-machine, was a 120 watt, and an HP, was a 100 watt.
They DO use the lowest possible on an OEM, saves a buck.

They also make them for average users, who probably will never go even so far as upgrading the sound card, let alone adding drives, HD or opticals.

My own all go 400 or more, Antecs.

[vance43211]

gateway doesn't need as much power as a real computer.
it has low quality parts and on board stuff.
150w does seem low though.
a p4 should have at least 300w.more if you have alot of stuff hooked up.
http://www.pcpowercooling.com/maxpc/index_cases.htm

i will put my computer against yours any day

my 2.4 pentium 4

512 ram 512 cache

2 80 gigs

samsung 16x 48x24x48 cd/rw dvd-rom

sony dru120a 2.4 dvd/rw

souldblaster audigy

nividia geoforce 4 mx 440

aver dvd capture card

on a 150watt power supply


i probably will upgrade it though

[pestoon]

i would go with 400 since you will end up adding other stuff.

[funkguy4]

i will put my computer against yours any day

my 2.4 pentium 4

512 ram 512 cache

2 80 gigs

samsung 16x 48x24x48 cd/rw dvd-rom

sony dru120a 2.4 dvd/rw

souldblaster audigy

nividia geoforce 4 mx 440

aver dvd capture card

on a 150watt power supply


i probably will upgrade it though

What, with that crappy motherboard? Come on, I got a 2.33GHz P4 that will kick the crap out of that anyday.

[vance43211]

i will put my computer against yours any day

my 2.4 pentium 4

512 ram 512 cache

2 80 gigs

samsung 16x 48x24x48 cd/rw dvd-rom

sony dru120a 2.4 dvd/rw

souldblaster audigy

nividia geoforce 4 mx 440

aver dvd capture card

on a 150watt power supply


i probably will upgrade it though

What, with that crappy motherboard? Come on, I got a 2.33GHz P4 that will kick the crap out of that anyday.

you think so

but i doubt it

this computer is 18 months old too

these were the top shelf parts back then

you problably got yours last month

[funkguy4]

i will put my computer against yours any day

my 2.4 pentium 4

512 ram 512 cache

2 80 gigs

samsung 16x 48x24x48 cd/rw dvd-rom

sony dru120a 2.4 dvd/rw

souldblaster audigy

nividia geoforce 4 mx 440

aver dvd capture card

on a 150watt power supply


i probably will upgrade it though

What, with that crappy motherboard? Come on, I got a 2.33GHz P4 that will kick the crap out of that anyday.

you think so

but i doubt it

this computer is 18 months old too

these were the top shelf parts back then

you problably got yours last month

You know how important the mobo is? Trust me dude, you crappy gateway stuff won't do you any good in benchmarks,

[vance43211]

i will put my computer against yours any day

my 2.4 pentium 4

512 ram 512 cache

2 80 gigs

samsung 16x 48x24x48 cd/rw dvd-rom

sony dru120a 2.4 dvd/rw

souldblaster audigy

nividia geoforce 4 mx 440

aver dvd capture card

on a 150watt power supply


i probably will upgrade it though

What, with that crappy motherboard? Come on, I got a 2.33GHz P4 that will kick the crap out of that anyday.

you think so

but i doubt it

this computer is 18 months old too

these were the top shelf parts back then

you problably got yours last month

You know how important the mobo is? Trust me dude, you crappy gateway stuff won't do you any good in benchmarks,

whatever.

it isn't just about computer specs

i leave it at that now

[gmatov]

Boy, if this ain't a silly one.
A 150 is running fine for a year and a half, and someone comes in and says, well, it's gonna break, your mobo's no good, neither is the rest of that onboard crap.
Hell, if you ain't into Doom, or whatever the G card intensive game is these days, who needs a300 buck, 50 watt card?
Long as it ain't broke, don't fix it. PSU's are cheap enough to replace, if, and when, it burns out.
I have machines 8 years old that the PSU is still good in.
Don't sweat it.

[EddyH]

all that on a 150watt? respect..
Upping it to a 300 or 350w can't hurt much if there's space though - wont destroy your wallet. Allegedly it doesnt use any more mains power, just doesnt waste as much. Had a bunch of problems with my computer after adding the third hard disc, decided to add new PSU (350 i think, and not all that expensive) after a new CPU fan didn't fix, did a world of good and no trouble since - and the old 230w looked decidedly burnt out.

Excess power won't do much harm; a power deficit will. Just like in your car

[vance43211]

i'm going to look into it

[gmatov]

Eddy,
Vance hasn't said if he has an ATX or a Micro ATX. The last 2, 100 and a 120, were Micro's, very small, hard to get higher wattages, I think I put in 150's but not sure.

I'm pretty sure the extra windings do use more mains power, even at idle, but probably not that much.

A 250 I just looked at draws 6 amps/115 volts, US, 3 amps/250 volt you ( I think Britian uses 250V, 50 cycle, no? )

A 300 draws 8 amps/4 amps, so 1000 watts, either way, 30% efficiency, 300 watts output.

You always have losses when you use a transformer, step-up, or step-down, and we have 3 separate sets of windings, 3.3, 5 and 12 volts..

By the same token, the 100 and 120 Micro's both draw 3/1.5 amps, so they're slightly less efficient than the ATX's I have out of the box. Or else they're a little more conservatively rated.

Still, I like hefty power supplies, myself, but if I buy a box with a 300, I don't automatically throw it out and buy a 500. Hell, if it goes, replace it, if not, just wait, it may last longer than you want it to.

Cheers

George

[vance43211]

Eddy,
Vance hasn't said if he has an ATX or a Micro ATX. The last 2, 100 and a 120, were Micro's, very small, hard to get higher wattages, I think I put in 150's but not sure.

I'm pretty sure the extra windings do use more mains power, even at idle, but probably not that much.

A 250 I just looked at draws 6 amps/115 volts, US, 3 amps/250 volt you ( I think Britian uses 250V, 50 cycle, no? )

A 300 draws 8 amps/4 amps, so 1000 watts, either way, 30% efficiency, 300 watts output.

You always have losses when you use a transformer, step-up, or step-down, and we have 3 separate sets of windings, 3.3, 5 and 12 volts..

By the same token, the 100 and 120 Micro's both draw 3/1.5 amps, so they're slightly less efficient than the ATX's I have out of the box. Or else they're a little more conservatively rated.

Still, I like hefty power supplies, myself, but if I buy a box with a 300, I don't automatically throw it out and buy a 500. Hell, if it goes, replace it, if not, just wait, it may last longer than you want it to.

Cheers

George

Humm......

you have a very good point

[funkguy4]

Boy, if this ain't a silly one.
A 150 is running fine for a year and a half, and someone comes in and says, well, it's gonna break, your mobo's no good, neither is the rest of that onboard crap.
Hell, if you ain't into Doom, or whatever the G card intensive game is these days, who needs a300 buck, 50 watt card?
Long as it ain't broke, don't fix it. PSU's are cheap enough to replace, if, and when, it burns out.
I have machines 8 years old that the PSU is still good in.
Don't sweat it.

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