KVCD issues

[gothviruz]

I created VCD files using TMPGEnc, with KVCD templates. When i tried burning them in Nero, it prompts 'non-VCD compliant and need to encode'. If i proceed, it'll defeat the purpose using the KVCD template in TMPGEnc.

How do i burn KVCD files using Nero?
Will the VCD be playable in normal VCD players?

[Craig Tucker]

That is because a KVCD is not a VCD it is an XVCD, and therefore non compliant, you need to select to burn anyway and ignore the non compliancy warning (do not reencode). Whether it will play, well that depends on your DVD player, just give it a try

[gothviruz]

I juz did my own template of XVCD with TMPGEnc.
I'm not sure if this template is a good one.

Mpeg1
Resolution : 352x288 (PAL)
Frame rate : 25fps
Rate control mode: Automatic VBR (CQ_VBR) with Max birate at 3000, quality at 100
Motion Search : Highest Quality (very slow)
Noise Reduction : ON

Any comments?

[jiMii]

You can burn it just by unchecking the compliant box under properties.

I have a question.
When you finish making a kvcd and before burning what is the file size?

I've made a kvcd but the file came out 1GB. Is it suppose to come out under 800MB so i can burn it with a 80min CD-R?

[Craig Tucker]

Yes it needs to be under 800Mb to burn to an 80 min cd without overburning. 797.9MB from memory.

[matneaves]

not really, i burned a 820 meg vcd/mpeg to 700 mb cd

[snowmoon]

80 minute disk will tkae between 790-810mb of mpeg's depending on the manufacturer and run of discs.

Overburning can exceed that by 20+mb, but is not consitered "safe" and may not be played back by all devices. I have put upwards of 835mb on a disc, but the credits started dropping out on my pioneer.

[poopyhead]

don't forget overburning may also damage your burner as well.

[funkguy4]

They just say that so if anything happens they're not screwed. If overburn fails, your burner has a slim-to-none chance of taking damage. That laser is so damn weak, what less than a split second of it do to a metalic suface anyway? If, by some slim-to-none chance your burner did die, you could just go get a high-end $20 burner from BestBuy on the weekend......damage...

[poopyhead]

@funkguy4,

your last post cracked me up...perhaps we do need a disclaimer

[funkguy4]

None of the six burners I've used personally have ever "died" from overburn even if they failed. None of my friends' burners ever had damage from overburn. Never heard of a burner taking damage from overburn.

THEY TAKE DAMAGE FROM LIGHTNING THO!

[CaseyComb]

well...I did have a burner crap out after a few overburns...so it does happen. Not that the burner was top of the line, but it does happen.

[funkguy4]

Weird......:P, go get a $20 LITEON they are just plain next to unbreakable.

[poopyhead]

@funkguy4,

the overburning damage can be construed as a disclaimer. since there is always a chance that overburning can cause burner malfunction ...perhaps, you're lucky...or maybe that brand/model is better equiped for overburning...

but to cover all bases (burners, media, etc..) the possible damage needed to be mentioned. some ppl may not want/afford to get another burner.

[marvel2020]

Overburning can only cause damage to your CD-RW if it doesn't support overburning.

And as far as i know any CD-RW that doe's not support overburning will not work anyway and will spit out the CD-r.

But most of the newer CD-RW's all support overburing so there's no problem in overburing.

I've never had any problems with overburning to 80, 90 and 99 mintue cdr's.

[snowmoon]

Also remeber that many MANY drives have firmware locked at MM:SS to prevent overburning damage. Even if you can find 90 minute media, it may only work to 88 minutes because that's where most burners cut out. Very few drives recognize, read, or burn 99 minute media. There is no possibility for media larger the 99:99 because the CD-rom spec is based on a 4 digit minute/second pair for dealing with blocks. You could never have 100:01 without re-writing parts of the spec ( sony DD-CD ).

Most burners are not damaged from the laser, but from tracking mechanism that you are pushing beyond spec.

[funkguy4]

Well, then I guess I'm lucky I bought that $20 LITEON from BestBuy! I have overburned to 89 minutes perfectly on my 80 minute CD-R. I guess I'm just lucky!!!

[marvel2020]

Guess i'm in the lucky catagory as well then, cause my Lite-on 24x overburns onto 80, 90 and 99 mintue CDR's without any hassle

8) :P

[funkguy4]

Are there any cheap 90 and 99 minute CD-Rs? If so, can someone point me there? Does Pricewatch have good deals on them? ???