DVD PLAYER UNIT PLAYS DivX ?!?!?

[lafamar]

Don't forget. Soon will have that.
DivX = Great quality(bitrate and resolution) in one 650mg CD-R.
VCD/XVCD/SVCD/XSVCD ... will die?
What do you think about?

[Operationz]

I really can't see divx bringing about the death of vcd, svcd and all the others. remember when dvd came out 4 years ago? people were saying then that would be the death of vhs. obviously they were wrong

[d3mlg0d]

sorry for being slow, but why will we "soon" have that?
there a product in the works?

it work with OpenDivx's new standard?

[Foolio70]

Such an endeavor by DVD player manufacturers/developers would be foolish at best. The extra cost of another decoder on board the player (you did mention soon...I imagine it will take the industry a while to get an MPEG-4/MPEG-2/MPEG-1 decoder SoC out to market) coupled with the fact that they would have to answer to the MPAA on just WHY they should be allowed to throw in DivX functionality (let's remember that DivX is having this "bootleggers" reputation) may be too much to bear. Maybe foolish is the wrong word..."not cost effective" is probably a better phrase.

Soon...nope. Later in the future, perhaps, but I think with the advent of DVD-R and cheap MPEG-2 encoders, it might be a bit off to say DivX capable hardware...MPEG-4 has much more to offer than just better compression ratios. Let's also not forget that a well done MPEG-2 stream will almost certainly look better then a well done MPEG-4 stream. Last I remembered (and I could be wrong) the MPEG-4 spec is unable to achieve the kind of quality offered by MPEG-2 at high bitrates.

[d3mlg0d]

i think maybe that's a tad inaccurate, your last assessment.

for single frame quality purposes, i think at high resolutions and high bitrates you'll find that Divx4Windows will prove to be the superior encode.....

now, the issue is that nobody encodes at these super-high bitrates, typically because computers have a rough time playing these divxs back

but i'm not adverse to players that can read DVD-R and DVD-RW in the future, as opposed to DivX; I have yet to see a poorly-made DVD

[Peter]

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The extra cost of another decoder on board the player (you did mention soon...I imagine it will take the industry a while to get an MPEG-4/MPEG-2/MPEG-1 decoder SoC out to market) coupled with the fact that they would have to answer to the MPAA on just WHY they should be allowed to throw in DivX functionality (let's remember that DivX is having this "bootleggers" reputation) may be too much to bear. Maybe foolish is the wrong word..."not cost effective" is probably a better phrase.

Soon...nope. Later in the future, perhaps, but I think with the advent of DVD-R and cheap MPEG-2 encoders, it might be a bit off to say DivX capable hardware...MPEG-4 has much more to offer than just better compression ratios. Let's also not forget that a well done MPEG-2 stream will almost certainly look better then a well done MPEG-4 stream. Last I remembered (and I could be wrong) the MPEG-4 spec is unable to achieve the kind of quality offered by MPEG-2 at high bitrates.
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http://www.sigmadesigns.com/products/em8470series.htm

Can you play DiVX with this chip? They say it plays MPEG4

[Foolio70]

Oh wow. I want one. Didn't know someone did this already. However, they apparently don't do quarter-pel motion compensation or global motion compensation - both of which play big roles in the advanced coding efficiency scheme of MPEG-4. I am unaware if DivX takes advantage of these algorithms though (I suppose it wouldn't use global motion compensation, but again I could be wrong).

The thing does seem to do MPEG-4 in general sans ACE. Interesting. Not sure if the video industry will partake in this on a mass market scale, depending on the price of course. To be honest it looks more like a jump start chip - preparing to take advantage of the interactive features of MPEG-4 rather than straight playback.

[DiViNeLeFT]

i dont think we will see stand alone dvd players playing divx cds for a long time... i think we will see mod chips to allow divx decoding in a stand alone before we will see a manufacturor make a player that supports mpeg4.

my reasonings... mainly the fact that divx is only used in pirating dvds.. or at least that is its main use. supporting divx goes hand in hand with supporting piracy... a step a lot of manufacturors dont want to take.