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  1. Why is every one not using DVD2ONE there is no better program what the point in trying to to do everything yourself when it only takes a couple of clicks on a mouse on decyrptor and dvd2one. 90 mins later you have you have a perfect Dvd. Ok there no menu but do you really use them.



    Sorry if i offend anyone but i have a simple mind. Simpler the program the better for me
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  2. Everyone is different and every program to create DVD is different. Everyone just has to find what works for them there is no right or wrong.

    Whatever method anyone uses to back up a DVD is a personal preference. I am just grateful that there is a site like this to share Ideas and opinions.
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    I agree.Simple is best!What is the point of a menu as a link to a feature you may not be keeping on the disc.Continued success to DVD2ONE!
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  4. It's all very well dissing menus, but I've just backed up Blackadder (TV series) VERY simply with Instantcopy - a task which is a pain in the butt with DVD2One (at it stands at the moment).

    Besides, Instantcopy makes a much better job of the video convertion.

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  5. Backing up DVDs is full of trade offs.

    Well, I had been a firm supporter of DVDXCOPY. I wanted all the menus, extras and I did not want to sacrifce any picture quality, no matter what, even if it meant I had to split a DVD9 onto 2 DVD-Rs and . That was a trade off I was willing to make. I must restate like I have in a few other posts, for me, getting up to change the DVD is not as big a deal as I thought it would be. I'll be getting the Sony DVPCX875 DVD/CD changer very soon, which will make it even easier.

    I saw many post about the quality of DVD2One compared to CCE and now Instant Copy. After looking at some of the captures posted, I decided to stay with DXC. I have a 73" Mitsubishi, so picture quality loss that many weren't seeing on their direct view televisions would be very appearent on my rear projection set. Or so I thought. I finally decided to ignore all the posts and do a comparsion for myself. I chose the monster of all DVDs, Titanic. 3 hour & 14 minutes just for the movie!! If DVD2One could compress/transcode this monster so that it fit on 1 DVDR & the quality was "acceptable", I might be willing to change. This would require a new type of sacrfice. No more menus or extras. In the past I've argued strongly for keeping menu & extras. I've only watch 30 minutes of the Titanic and there was some quality loss, especially in faces. I'll watch the rest tonight and make the final verdict. Right now my needs are as follow. I want the entire movie with the least amount of additonal compression/transcoding/re-encoding possible to fit on 1 DVDR. For this I am willing to sacrifice menus & extras.

    In any event DVD2One is my answer and has replaced DVDXCOPY for backing up DVD9s
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    Originally Posted by xyz
    Why is every one not using DVD2ONE there is no better program what the point in trying to to do everything yourself when it only takes a couple of clicks on a mouse on decyrptor and dvd2one. 90 mins later you have you have a perfect Dvd. Ok there no menu but do you really use them.



    Sorry if i offend anyone but i have a simple mind. Simpler the program the better for me
    If not as much people here are into DVD2ONE as their used to be.

    Then its probabley because of the InstantCopy program.Which IS Superior to DVD2One
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    Originally Posted by Star Warrior
    Then its probabley because of the InstantCopy program.Which IS Superior to DVD2One
    Oh, well that's made my mind up for me then.
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    Wow,
    You guys are missing, or should I say have missed all the fun. When I started this there was very little info on the whole process. I had to search every where, used countless nights testing different methods, settings, encoders, authoring programs, ect. and most not working the way I wanted. Anyone who has been doing this for awhile has gone through a lot of trial and error time and learned a hell of a lot along the. I use both DVD2one and Instant Copy plus others I have found along the way and feel they are all good in a given set of parameters. But I sure had fun in the good old days of trial and error, when a 24 hour turn around was good time. And remember failure is just a stepping stone to success.

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    Originally Posted by Doggiedaddy
    Wow,
    You guys are missing, or should I say have missed all the fun. When I started this there was very little info on the whole process. I had to search every where, used countless nights testing different methods, settings, encoders, authoring programs, ect. and most not working the way I wanted. Anyone who has been doing this for awhile has gone through a lot of trial and error time and learned a hell of a lot along the. I use both DVD2one and Instant Copy plus others I have found along the way and feel they are all good in a given set of parameters. But I sure had fun in the good old days of trial and error, when a 24 hour turn around was good time. And remember failure is just a stepping stone to success.
    Good post
    I wouldn't call it fun, the pre-dvd2one days!
    Being rather nostalgic I will miss the eight hours encoding time for a two hour movie, but I've always been daft

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    And remember failure is just a stepping stone to success.

    Very true.

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  10. I love DVD2ONE and InstantCopy 7 DVD2ONE I use for movie's and InstantCopy 7 for DVD that have episode's. for the best picture DVD2DVD-R is the best DVDXCOPY does not do encoding but give you a true 1:1 copy it all come's down to what you want
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    Originally Posted by Silky31

    Good post
    I wouldn't call it fun, the pre-dvd2one days!
    Hehe more like the Pre-InstantCopy days.

    InstantCopy Superior....DVD2One Inferior
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  13. Originally Posted by xyz
    Why is every one not using DVD2ONE there is no better program what the point in trying to to do everything yourself when it only takes a couple of clicks on a mouse on decyrptor and dvd2one. 90 mins later you have you have a perfect Dvd. Ok there no menu but do you really use them.



    Sorry if i offend anyone but i have a simple mind. Simpler the program the better for me
    Well...
    For those of you who say menu isn't needed and all that. I have found two reasons for keeping the original DVD structure (mainly the menu), and this is:
    1. The DVD may have been designed for a purpose. It's not always just a main movie, with a few trailers and a "behind the scenes", sometimes it might be an "extras"-disc, and you may want to keep more than one VTS from one of those. Also the navigation is much easier if you have a menu. You also have a chapter menu, wich actually is very useful if you want to continue watching a movie without having to scroll through all the chapters.
    2. You may want to create a professional looking DVD! This actually motivates me alot. It looks better to have a menu, and it feels more like a DVD-R if you have a menu, rather than having a SVCD (sure you can make menu's for those as well, but you know it's not really the same...).

    I understand why people use mainly DVD2one, but those who wonder why some ppl keep using other programs... you should think things over!
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    You also have a chapter menu, wich actually is very useful if you want to continue watching a movie without having to scroll through all the chapters.
    It sounds like you need a new DVD player. Get one with a disk-memory in it. The next time you play it, it will continue from the spot you left off.

    I don't care for menus. I bought a DVD player because of the superior quality compared to VHS, not the extras. However, the extras are fun to watch the first time around. I can watch the extras when I rent the original.[/quote]
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  15. I am using InstantCopy now because I like the fact you can copy everything. The encoding time is pretty long but I have found A trick to do 2 per day.

    Evening:
    - Rip 2 DVD to my HD.
    - Start InstantCopy for first DVD and goto sleep.
    In the morning:
    - Delete the first DVD originals (to make room on HD)
    - Start InstantCopy for second DVD and goto work.
    Evening:
    - Extract the PDI files to video_TS folders.
    - Burn both movies with proper DVD file structure and Volume Name.
    - Goto Top

    Quality:

    The worst possible compress ratio InstantCopy can go down to is around 50% with a full DVD-9. The main movie is not great with that level of compression but its respectable.

    Bugs:

    There are several bugs with the demo version I have, I hope they fixed those soon.

    Questions:

    - Will InstantCopy fixed the DVD file structure bugs anytime soon so I can burn straight to DVD`s?
    - My trial will be expired in 10 days, when can we expect this product to hit retail? Can we but it online and download it?
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  17. My copy from J&R Music and Video shipped yesterday, and it was in their second batch after they sold all their stock Since I ordered via 2 day air, mine should reach me before my 9 days left of the trial are up.

    Someone in another thread said they reinstalled the trial, and it started again at 15 days, but I can't remember if he said he deleted registry keys when he did so. Not advocating piracy, just saying you can probably continue uninterrupted until your retail copy reaches you.
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    Exactly what are the limits of the trial version? Does it work properly and then crap out after 15 days? I noticed something on it that said AC3 audio limited to 8 minutes.But i get full sound in my backups.

    Perhaps it means that after the trial is up,it'll only convert up to the first 8 minutes of sound
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    Also anyone know where else i can buy Instantcopy other than J&R music world? They are out of stock.

    And it dos'ent seem like i can buy it from the Pinnacle website either
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  20. Buy.com has it for pre-order.... however, I would just telephone J&R and ask to get put on the waiting list for an order.

    I'd like to know how they got it before everyone else... including Pinnacle's own web store. Are they somehow getting their stock from the UK?
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    Comparing IC with DVD2One when trying to keep menus etc

    I took Star Wars AOTC and ran it thru IC & DVD2One and made both resulting files 3.43Gb from an original of 5.51Gb

    I have then sampled 70 frames and cut the middle 50% out and placed both side by side for direct comparision

    I'll let you decide which one is which

    I've started this link at frame 15 as I think that's where some difference is more apparent between the 2, as some frames are nearly identical

    http://www.deano.dsl.pipex.com/frames/15.htm

    this frame below shows a big difference in quality
    http://www.deano.dsl.pipex.com/frames/35.htm
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  22. DVD2ONE - For Movies

    INSTANT COPY - For TV Episode discs.

    That simple for me.

    Especially in PAL regions where you usually have to sit through endless language versions of the 'YOU ARE NOT AUTHORISED TO USE THIS DISC IN PUBLIC PLACES, OIL RIGS OR ORBITIAL SPACE STATIONS' messages before you can reach the movies menu. With a DVD2ONE disc, just whack the movie in and it starts.

    I honestly only watch the extras the first time I rent the disc after I've first watched the movie, no intrest in backing 'em up.
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  23. Best isn't the term I would use. First you're (suppose) to buy DVD2ONE. It basically just does the same job as IFOEdit which is free, but has more features.

    Simple and best are not normally the same thing. Linux is often considered a better OS than windows, but for what/whom? Most users want something simple, linux isn't simple.

    I think programs like DVD2ONE, InstantDVD, DVD2SVCD, GKnot, etc. are great. It makes things much easier, but that necessarily mean they are better.
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  24. xyz, i agree with you, dvd2one is extremely simple to use. i just got my burner on tuesday, and wed burned my first movie (xXx). dvd decrypter and dvd2one made it very easy to do (along with a good guide from this site). i'm not trying to compare programs, because obviously i havent tried any other ones but those two programs together do make it very easy. COCKLES--
    I honestly only watch the extras the first time I rent the disc after I've first watched the movie, no intrest in backing 'em up.
    i agree with you there because i dont think anyone NEEDS the extras, i mean come on, no one buys/rents/burns a movie just to watch the special features. again, i'm not saying that any programs are better than dvd2one or anything, i'm just saying that it is a very easy program to use and so far the quality has been great.
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  25. I used it last night to do Serving Sara because it was giving me problem syncing the audio through CCE, I must say that there was minimal quality lost but the movie was a smaller file only about 5.5 Gigs ripped down to size, the only problem I did have was after burning to disk the first start was of it started on the second chapter, anyone know why? before burning I ran it through IFO edit to make sure that everything was intack do I need to do this next time, or is this must messed up my first start?
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    Because I use DVD2SVCD and it works great... and has a big advantage that DVD2ONE doesn't have, the quality doesn't depress me. I know other like it, but its not for me, I'm too picky so I'd rather wait longer, beside they encode either while I'm sleeping or while I'm at work so whats the big deal?
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  27. DV2SVCD is great for making SVCD's which is the intent.

    1. You can only do 1 Audio track.
    2. You cannot do subs with it.
    3. To do a Complete movie it requires about an hour of work after done. To author.

    You need other programs
    Subrip
    DvdMaestro
    Audo Extraction program if you want other audio tracks.

    DVD2one does all the audio if you like all the subs and it authors.

    If you gonna use CCE use DVD2DVDR its more complete to do DVD's.
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    Uhm...maybe you should read mine and mij's guides cause DVD2SVCD makes great DVDrs. I haven't given DVD2DVDR another chance because of all the problem it had with NTSC early in, its a great program but in the end they both use CCE so why bother switching from what I already have working for me?
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    When DVD2ONE can do episodic titles with menus intact it will be a fair comparison between the two. Until then DVD2ONE rates second to Instant Copy, IMO.
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    If you run Make-It-Easy with DVD2ONE you can keep the menus and extras,I'm doing it now with movies and TV episodes like TNG,Farscape,Babylon5,and the Sopranos.
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