Problem Converting DivX 3 to 4/5

[jmc_uk]

I have just recently purchased a Kiss DP-450 DVD/DivX Player, it plays DivX v4/5 apperently, But i only have DivX3.11 movies.

In a previous post someone told me to use VirtualDub to convert 3 to 4/5 which worked on my pc but when i Played it in the player it was jerky.

Jerky like sound played every 5 secs and video stopped and started every 2/3 seconds, which is very annoying, basically the films are unbelievebly un-watchable.

Can anyone think what this could be????

Please reply ASAP as if it is a fault with the player i need to send it back, thanks!

Website
http://www.kiss-technology.com

FAQ DP-450
http://www.kiss-technology.com/support/dp-450_FAQ.asp

[vhelp]

dude, rumor had it that drive was selling for $400-600, and (if I'm not
mistaken) you went out and got it ?? Wow. and for divX, which isn't really
all that great you know. But, then again, who cares anymore. I still think
that $400 or more for a dvd player that (finally) plays divX clips is not
worth it, unless YOU do it, and with high enough bitrate, etc. shesh!!
yeah, was that the cost ??

As to your divX issue. . .
I think that you first have to see what the specs are. The way to do it, is
* open the divX in vdub
* File/Information and view what the framerate is
* next, when you re-encode it, make sure you set the framerate to it as
well. But, be warned that the (any) dvd player won't play video smothly
if framerate is beyond the norm, ie, 25 PAL, 24 film, 29.970 Interlace, etc.
Expect those odd divX clips encoded w/ weird rate like 19 or 18 or 15 or
whatever, as I 've D/L'ed a few and messes w/ them. Anyways.

Once you know the correct framerate, just re-encode, but expect:
* reduced quality - because you've taked what was reduced already, and
now am reducing it further!
* dvd player to NOT play an odd framerate smoothly (as above)

Well, give the above a try and report back for some more.
and Hay, while you're at it, and since you have the KISS, try my sample
divX (v5.0.2) I have below, and let me know if it looks like crap, he, he...
frame rate is 23.976 (film) (maybe w/out re-encoding it too)

And, thanks for your time.
-vhelp
I have a sample divX if you want to see it <HERE>

[jmc_uk]

I bought it for £180 / $284.31

so im not that bothered bout the cost just would really like to play DivX cos it saves converting to VCD or to DVD, cos it takes yonks!

im gonna try ur sample, if u could read the FAQ of the DP-450 and tell me what ya think i would be grateful thanks a lot!

MB

[jmc_uk]

Just tried ur Demo thing and its looked amazing!!! and it actually worked!!! (well it got stuck on first few seconds but played good after)

HOW DID YOU DO IT?!??!?!?!

I NEED TO KNOW!!! PLEASE!!!

Thanx

[crahak]

First, I'm sorry, but I have a hard time believing someone actually got one of these at such a low price. You'd think prices would be very similar in many places, especially on price check websites in the USA... But anyways, here's the thing:

Won't play lots of movies for MANY reasons, not only 'cause they're DivX 3... Odd framerates, Odd resolutions, Odd codecs (you always come across a WMA or ogg once in a while...) Also, it is not supporting some movies encoded with like GMC in DivX5 (afaik). So basically, it will hardly play anything I have, unless I reencoded it all... In which case I'd probably burn 'em to DVD-R's as mpeg2. Reencoding DivX to DivX for every movie is just not worth the pain, and will degrade the quality again.

Also, for the price this player goes, you can buy a PC that will play it all no questions asked... Several posts about this one already.

[vhelp]

jmc_uk,

Sorry for not getting back to you sooner. I had issues like crashes, and
projects going on that kept me pretty darn busy. Anyways. . .

You can't convert divX v3.11 into v5.0.2 - but, you can re-encode
using vdub as follows:
* open your divX v3.11 clip
* next, go into Video/Compressoin, and selct divX 5.0.2
* and save it as divX v5xxx

That's it.
the clip will re-encode into divX 5.xxx, but be warned that the quality may
be reduced because you are now re-encoding what was already encoded,
and as such, MORE quality will be lost. But, of course you already know
this, right ?? You are just trying to get it to work on your KISS player ??

Anyways, that's about the best you can do. You HAVE to re-encode. There
is NO converting from one format to another, w/out resorting to re-encoding!!

But, at least the above will get you going w/ all those divX v3.11 clips you
may have archived and what-not.
Also, don't expect a 2nd re-encode to enhance or improve on quality, as
I've menstioned above, you will unfortunately, loose even MORE quality.

Also, I'll have more divX samples posted soon. So, keep an watchful eye
out for them via my VHELP's Samples thread elsewhere on this FORUM.

Hope that the above helped.
-vhelp

[jmc_uk]

Do i need to do anything to the sound?

Cos i noticed yours was 16000 and the file im encoding is 48000 as MP3?

I got one working last nite, which was Mission To Mars, i encoded from 3.11 to 4 it worked fine but again, every few seconds it had a little jerk.

What is this and how can i stop it, if i can?

It might be just me but it seems to jerk same time as when encodin the file it stops the starts, hard to explain but best i can do.
(The jerkiness when ur encoding the file, Be TMPEG or VDUB)

Thanks again Dudes

[vhelp]

jmc,

the jerks could be/mean any number of things, but the first I would check
for is the frameRate (FPS) In vdub, see what the FPS is, and once you
know that, set vdub to your NEW encode to that FPS or if using TMPG,
same there,... set it to same FPS.

I have a question for you w/ respect to your KISS player and my sample
you said play fine with.
* My assumption for my divX clip was to be widescreen (WS) and as such,
I was hopping that it played that way (and not stretched) adding in the
bars during playing (I was hoping for)

So, as such, the question is, "did it add hte bars as I hoped, or did it instead,
stretch the clip to fullscreen ??

Thanks for your response.
-vhelp

[jmc_uk]

Your DivX Clip played superb, good for you and annoying for me!!!!!!

Why the hell does that work but my encodings dont, i have set the FPS to same in VDUB and still it jerks.

I have had this problem with DVD's aswell in a different player, when i encode them and burn them they end up been jerky, but not quite as much as these DivX movies.

It must be so simple to explain this, why is it ?

The originals are not jerky, the new files arent jerky thru the PC but when used in the Set Top Player they are!!!

BUT WITH THE EXCEPTION OF YOUR CLIP!!!

HOW ?!?!?!?!

Sorry for been mental but u know the score

Thanks yets again for the reply, if i was u i prolly wud have given up by now

[vhelp]

ok, then how about sound ??

Some more questions:
* A, did you change any sound settings ??
* B, or better yet, did you try and go into a scene, whein a frame somewheres'
else, and then re-encode ??

A or B could have cased you issues there. But, also...
If you did anything with B, chances are, that your issue is with B.

Try and just re-encode as is, w/out jumping into any scenes.

Or, try Tenders divX-to-svcd guide and see if any part of it helps is
narrowing down your issues. I know, I know, your goal is to transfer all your
divX v3.11 to divX4 or divx5. But, maybe reading some parts of it
might help.

-vhelp

[jmc_uk]

Possibly a breakthrough!

I went back and watched one of the films that i encoded to DivX 4 and noticed when it got furthur into the film it seemd ok alomost BEAUTIFULLY perfect untill a fast motion scene came on where it started to struggle but once that passed it was fine!

KB/S will that have anything to do with it?

and sound, do i leave it as it is with VDub or change it to another compression?

BTW the FPS has stayed the same throughout the encodin

Thanks