Smartripper is only around 2x speed on 16x DVD drive??

[tonyp12]

Why is it I only get around 2x DVD speed in Smartripper
with a 16X DVD drive?

Have installed aspi, but it does not use it (set on auto)

[MOVIEGEEK]

Have you enabled DMA on your drive?

[mbellot]

Tony,

What kind of drive are you using?

My Toshiba SD-M1502 (16x) has exactly the same "problem". From what I understand, Toshiba did it intentionally. Any DVD with CSS protection will only read at 2x max.

I have found a few DVDs @ Blockbuster that don't have CSS, and they rip great, got all the way up to about 7x...

[banjazzer]

Wow! 2x is fast. I can only rip at 1.3x on my Pioneer drive.

[tonyp12]

I have the EPO 16X (CompUSA)

I think I have DMA turned on, can not find where to look for that.

The old 12x LiteOn did around 5-7x, so maybe it is CSS is limited to
2x on this drive.

In that case I will return it to the store.

[leebo]

Since I only rip at 2X on my A03 AND another DVD-ROM drive, my guess would be that since we're not simply playing the disc (de-crypting is going on), that might be the reason.

[banjazzer]

I don't think ripping slowly is a bad thing. Why, last week, I even had time to go for a walk outside.

[tonyp12]

But I have a 2gHz (AMD XP2000+) with 256mb PC2100.
And a fast 80gb ATA100 WD harddrive

Pretty sure that the decrypting is NOT the bottle neck.

Correct me if I'm wrong.


So what is going on here???

I want 5-7x ripspeed!

[Digifreak]

I have that same Toshiba SD-M1502 16x that mbellot mentioned and it never gets beyond 2x on my dual 733 P3s with DMA enabled. What a piece of crap.

[banjazzer]

I want 5-7x ripspeed!

Ripping is not the slowest part of making VCD/SVCD/DivX. Even at 1.3x this is no time at all compared with the time to encode to good quality. If I could improve anything, it would be the encoding time.

[tonyp12]

We are in DVD-DVDR forum, so some movies do not need be re-encoded.
So the rip speed is as slow as writing it to a DVDR.

OK, I did a test with SiSoftware Sandra.
http://www.sisoftware.demon.co.uk/san_dem/html/dload.htm

My EPO16x gets 2X read speed on all type of DVD media.

My Philips DVDRW228, gets 1X on DVD and 5x on DVD+RW (read)

Smartripper gets 4x (inner tracks) and 7x outertrack with the Philips228
So there must be a hardware issue with the EPO16x drive.

I guess I can reinstall latest VIA-4-in-1 drivers again.
http://www.viaarena.com/?PageID=2

[tonyp12]

Using DVDSPEED http://www.cdspeed2000.com/files/NeroDVDSpeed_053.zip

I have found out that the EPO16X dvd-rom drive can do
up 13x on DVD-ROM media.
but on DVD-Video Media it will only do around 2X

So the EPO is CRAPPY when it comes to DVD ripping.

Is there a list of DVD ROM drives that do 5-8x ripping?
I think my old LiteOn12x did.

My PhilipsDVDRW228 will, but to save on tear & wear and would like
to use it as little as possible.

[Treebeard]

i have a 16x liteon drive it usually rips in the 7x range. i have seen it go as high as 9x

[BrianWescombe_UK]

My Pioneer drive rips at max. 2x speed on dual-layer discs but goes upto 6x on single-layer discs. I think it's because DL are read as Constant Linear Velocity and single layer read as Constant Angular Velocity (the rip-speed actually increases towards the outer edge of the disc as more data passes the read-head per disc rotation).

Is that too technical? Probably!

[tonyp12]

Most CD and DVD drives only reach their stated speed on the outer edge.

A dual layer DVD reach it higest speed halfway through as it change to layer2 at the edge and start moving the head back to center
as it reads the second layer.

But alot of DVD-Rom Drives seems to lock in to 2x when it
reads DVD-Video Media.

LiteOn seems like one that do not, any other?

[leebo]

I don't think ripping slowly is a bad thing. Why, last week, I even had time to go for a walk outside.

Exactly. And when I'm ripping porno's, there are even more things I can do!

[spooki]

have you tried installing ASPI 1.7, my Toshiba 1502 used to only rip at 2x before i installed this and now it gets up to 12x

http://www.doom9.org/Soft21/SupportUtils/forceaspi17.rar

[alexb]

i have very cheap samsung 12X and it rips 6-11X. Not bad for a cheap drive. The same drive was installed on my old system and it was ripping 1.1X max. As soon as i upgraded my Mainboard and CPU it went to 6-11X.

[tonyp12]

have you tried installing ASPI 1.7

I had Nero's ASPI installed, I tried the forceASPI.
It made NO difference, still only 2x.

It's a firmware/hardware issue that locks the drive to 2X on Video Media.

So what do we learn from this lesson?
A 8x drive would be faster than a 16x drive if the later is a 2x lock-on.

[Colindale]

I have a 16x liteon DVD drive it usually rips in the 7x range. i have seen it go as high as 9x


Me Too, lowest price fastest speed?.

Pierre

[tonyp12]

Been playing around with ASPI and now I can not get DMA back on.

Reintstalled VIA drivers etc, what the heck is going on???