Subtitles running off the screen ...

[martinlest]

Hi.

No matter how I adjust things in ffdshow/subtitles, (I started with the default settings, then changed alignments and other parameters by trial and error, including selecting Horizontal 0%, + Alignment = Left in 'Placement'), when I add subtitles to an AVStoDVD project, the resulting DVD has the subtitles starting about 1/4 of the way across the bottom of the screen with the writing then running across to, and sometimes completely off the right-hand border of the screen, even when longer lines of text are being split into two. I have 'Obey positional settings ...' checked in the Blu-Ray/DVD tab.

In fact, nothing I change in the various subtitles options in ffdshow makes any difference to where the subtitles appear on the DVD (if I uncheck the subtitles box, I don't get any subtitles at all - that's the only thing that has any effect): maybe I should be changing something somewhere else, not in ffdshow??

My original video file is in .mkv format: if I run the original in GOM PLayer and choose to show the subtitles there, they are positioned perfectly. If I do exactly the same thing with the DVD files produced by AVStoDVD, then they are misplaced: the screenshot shows what I mean.

I have gone to the online ffdshow help page for subtitles, but there is only help for the main subtitles tab, not for the others, so I am a bit lost. Can anyone help me get subtitles in the correct position? It would also be really useful too if anyone knows of a very short video (mkv?, though I assume this problem is general not extension-related) I can download, one that comes with idx/sub subtitles included, that I can use to test this with: the .mkv file I am using at the moment is 4GBs, so it is taking some hours each time I do this at the moment, and I am on my fifth test now (all to no avail)!! My O/S = Win7 x64...

Thanks for any help,

Martin

[videobruger]

Perhaps if you told what is in the MKV - video resolution?

Anyway, you may use DVDSubEdit to change the position of the subtitles of the DVD.

[_MrC_]

@martin

could you post the AVStoDVD project log file?



Bye

[martinlest]

Resolution is 1200x720. Will try DVDSubEdit, thanks. I uncheck Subtitles in ffdshow? I guess not, but I am getting a bit out of my 'comfort zone' by now

Still Googling to find a short video with sub/idx subtitles..

[AlanHK]

Parameters like "placement" only work with text subtitles, like SRT.

SUB/IDX are actually images. DVDsubedit as mentioned can move them, change colours. But not resize or reflow.

[martinlest]

OK, will try it out later (at work right now!) and post back. Thanks...

[martinlest]

OK, I installed DVDSubEdit and then edited the VOB files: I drag the VOBs to the interface, make the changes to vertical and horizontal position, choose 'Apply last modification to all', then 'Save all modifications'.

I was a bit surprised that a 1GB file saves immediately - a little progress window opens but then closes within a quarter of a second. However, the 'last modified' date changes in the folder to the time the file was saved, so I guess the changes have been saved?

The result when I then burn the modified VOBs to a DVD: disappointment. There has been no change at all, the subtitles are just where they were originally. I attach a screenshot of the lower part of the screen, to show the original (white) and modified (pink) positions as shown in DVDSubEdit..

Am I doing something wrong? I guess (literally) the problem arises because my mkv file is 1280x720 resolution and AVStoDVD creates VOBs which are 720x576? I can't believe that this problem is not fixable, even so...

Thanks for any further help: for now, I am going to have to forget having the subtitles at all..

Martin

[martinlest]

.. project log, as requested....

[martinlest]

No one able to advise further on this? I have been beavering away on this since my last post - not so much because I am so desperate for the subtitles, but because I hate to admit defeat! But it's all been in vain thus far: no matter how I set subtitles position in ffdshow (and I have tried about every option now, using all variables), the titles remain where I showed them in the screenshot - too far to the right, so that longer lines disappear off the screen altogether.

Using SubRip I ran the OCR on the .sub file, saving the result in .srt format: the accuracy was lamentable (fault of the .sub file? - the text appears just fine when I play the video + subtitles in GOM player or similar though) and I had to edit the file by hand in a text editor - it took me some hours, I had to change almost every line, following the original video for many unrecognisable lines (at least I have voice-to-text software installed, or it would taken me ten times longer).

I had thought that with the new .srt file, things would then work out, but no: I again used the original .mkv file and my new .srt format subtitles in AVStoDVD, but as I say, the subtitles in the resulting .vob files are still off screen to the right. If I play the original .mkv video + subtitles in GOM player/VLC on my PC, the titles are just where they should be - it's in the DVD creation stage that things are going wrong and they shift position eastwards. It's clear that ffdshow must be having some input in the DVD creation process, as if I uncheck the 'subtitles' option, the .vob files made by AVStoDVD then include no subtitles at all ...

Any further advice? I hate just to give up, as I said..

Thanks.

[manono]

What happens when you use BDSUP2SUB to first convert the VobSubs to DVD size before then using those converted VobSubs in AVS2DVD?

And I don't know whether or not AVS2DVD will use any subs it finds in the MKV or not, as I've never used the program. If necessary, once you have DVD sized subs you might have to remux the MKV, removing the subs in there.

[martinlest]

I managed to do this last night and now have the video on DVD with correctly positioned subtitles: I first created a set of VOB files with ffdshow's subtitles option unchecked. Then joined the main VOBs into one 4.5GB VOB file. I ran AVStoDVD using that large VOB and the srt file I had created.. a bit time-consuming, but at least now all is fine.

What I don't really understand is DVDSubEdit - no matter what changes I make in that software - transparency, position, timings ... (and I am saving all changes and then saving to the VOB file) the results never show in the VOBs/DVDs - they remain just the same. I have followed the html tutorial through from top to bottom...

Thanks

[Basola]

hi. i've the same roblem and i cant solve it! i dont understand how you solve. can you repeat how you work in much easy words

ecxpecially i miss the passage when you say "I first created a set of VOB files with ffdshow's subtitles option unchecked" and " Then joined the main VOBs into one 4.5GB VOB file" Then joined the main VOBs into one 4.5GB VOB file". i dont know how made this points. Tnk, Andrea

[martinlest]

1. You need to go into ffdshow video decoder configuration (or the DXVA decoder if ffdshow is set to use that). Do the following for both if you are not sure which is being used. Scroll down the left-hand pane until you find 'Subtitles' and remove the tick in the box. See screenshot.

2. Now use AVStoDVD to create your VOB files from source avi/wmv/mp4 etc., as usual. Don't include any subtitle files, if present.

3. Join all the VOB files which start with 'VTS_0' just created into one large file. There are a number of freeware programmes to do this (eg. FreeVideoJoiner, or Freemake Video Converter). Don't include any of the .BUP, .IFO files or VOB files which start with the word 'Video_TS'. This helps to ensure that the subtitles match the video playback in the final DVD.

4. When that's complete and you have one large VOB file, go back to ffdshow and re-check the box for subtitles.

5. Start a new AVStoDVD session, using the one large VOB file just created in 4 and also include your subtitle file (srt or whatever) of course.

You should now have a new set of VOB files in which the subtitles are present and correctly placed. Well, it worked for me anyway. Good luck.

Martin

[Basola]

pefrect, i'm almost near to the end of procedure. last step and i'm arrived. i've encountered problem making the biggest VOB file! my video consist in 7 vob files-
freevideo joiner start the operation but at the end send me a message (cant crete output file), freemake video converter create another DVD smaller and splitted in 3 vobs (join files option selected, and dvd convert option chosed). i miss something? i need to save the joined vobs in another file (like AVI)?? and if yes, wich quality! tnk andrea

[martinlest]

You need to choose the same output format as the input (ie. VOB, or called 'to DVD'). I don't know why you get errors, I have never had any such problem so can't really advise. Make sure you are only joining the VOB files which contain the movie (or whatever it is), not any that relate to a DVD menu, as I described above.

Try Free Video Joiner, or join the files as two batches and then join the two resulting VOB files together as one.