Codec Conflicts with Vado HD H.264

[fastoy]

I'm not certain I know enough to ask this but I'm going to try.

I have a Creative Labs Vado HD camcorder that uses H.264. The first time you connect it via USB to a PC, it installs its codec so that you can playback the videos on that PC. I've done that on my laptop and it works fine.

When I connect it to my desktop, likewise, it installs its codec. However, when I attempt to playback one of the videos (for example using Media Player Classic) the application simply disappears with no error message.

I believe that this is due to a conflict with other codecs but I don't know how to determine which one.

I ran nirsoft.net's InstalledCodec tool and created a list of codecs that are installed. This list is in the attached file.

How can I identify which of these codecs is causing the problem or at least reduce it down to a smaller number than I can selectively disable to do a process of elimination? Is using nirsoft.net's InstalledCodec tool to disable a codec sufficient? If not, how should I disable a given codec?

Thanks for the help!

codecs.xls

[jagabo]

Download GraphStudio and open one of your files there (File -> Render Media File...). It will show you what filters are used to display your video.

[fastoy]

On the laptop, GraphStudio works as advertised and shows that the file is using "HDX4 H.264 Decoder (Creative) ver.: 1.1.8.1013." On the desktop, GraphStudio crashes.

[jagabo]

There is probably a mis-communication between the file reader/splitter and the h.264 decoder. What container is the source? Try using a different reader/splitter. If you have another h.264 decoder, like ffdshow, try using that instead.

[fastoy]

There is probably a mis-communication between the file reader/splitter and the h.264 decoder. What container is the source? Try using a different reader/splitter. If you have another h.264 decoder, like ffdshow, try using that instead.

It's an AVI file if that's what you're asking.

I'm not sure about using another h.264 decoder since the one that comes with the Vado works on the laptop but not on the desktop. Seems like there's some kind of misconfiguration on the desktop relative to codecs.

Did you look at that file from the InstalledCodec tool? That desktop is an old system and it has hundreds of codecs installed.

[nitro1973]

I had some codec conflicts with sonys picture motion browser and other codecs intalled on one of my machines.
This is what i dislike about all directshow filters. Sometimes it goes so deep to solve the problem and takes so much time to play with all the filters. Im too lazy for so i installed splash for h.264. Uses its own good decoder and never had a problem with it.

[fastoy]

I had some codec conflicts with sonys picture motion browser and other codecs intalled on one of my machines.
This is what i dislike about all directshow filters. Sometimes it goes so deep to solve the problem and takes so much time to play with all the filters. Im too lazy for so i installed splash for h.264. Uses its own good decoder and never had a problem with it.

Thanks. I'll try that.

Has anybody tried Splash with the Creative Vado HD output?

[jagabo]

VLC, MPCHC, and KMPlayer all have thier own built in h.264 decoders. They all also have their own file readers and splitters. The latter two can be configured to use their own readers/splitters/decoders or installed DirectShow components. You can also check to see the what components are being used to play any particular video.

There are some h.264 options that not all decoders can handle. Prior to about a year ago most did not handle MBAFF and PAFF correctly.

A computer that's too slow will have problems with 720p60 or 1080i30 h.264 decoding. You pretty much need a dual core CPU to handle those. 720p24 is a little friendlier toward single core CPUs.

Currently, Divx 7's h.264 decoder is the most efficient. Followed by CoreAVC Pro. Then ffdshow MT.

[nitro1973]

Has anybody tried Splash with the Creative Vado HD output?

i had once some raw clips from my friends vado hd and it was ok with Splash.

[neomaine]

VLC, MPCHC, and KMPlayer all have thier own built in h.264 decoders. They all also have their own file readers and splitters. The latter two can be configured to use their own readers/splitters/decoders or installed DirectShow components. You can also check to see the what components are being used to play any particular video.

There are some h.264 options that not all decoders can handle. Prior to about a year ago most did not handle MBAFF and PAFF correctly.

A computer that's too slow will have problems with 720p60 or 1080i30 h.264 decoding. You pretty much need a dual core CPU to handle those. 720p24 is a little friendlier toward single core CPUs.

Currently, Divx 7's h.264 decoder is the most efficient. Followed by CoreAVC Pro. Then ffdshow MT.

Yah, what he said.

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