MP3 -> CD+R issue

[coody]

You guys should know copy audio since you know a lot about DVD copy, right? Can you tell me how to copy/convert MP3 audio disc into a regular audio CD-R disc or the hard drive? Can the WinXP Windows Media or Nero do the project? Thank you for your answer.

[Cornucopia]

What the heck is a CD+R disc??

Yes, Nero or WinXP MediaCenter(I assume that's what you meant) should be able to do the job. Most AudioCD authoring/burning apps can take MP3s as input.

Scott

[Bjs]

Cd (mp3) to cd (wav) = Fairstars cd ripper : http://www.fairstars.com/cdripper/index.htm

Make sure you go into tools , options , select wav as encode type and sample rate as 41,000
Back in main window , over to right is "output type" , set to wav , and under that is where you want them to go .
Once set , let it rip .

Must check file sizes after rip , in folder ... cause they will not all fit on a single cdr ... that you have to figure out .

[jman98]

If you have Nero, you can just simply select to make an audio CD and drag and drop the MP3 files into it. It could not be simpler.

There is a typo in Bjs' advice. He means 44100 not 41000. Do NOT use 41000 as this won't work.

BeSweet GUI can also rather easily convert MP3 to WAV. WAV format is suitable for burning an audio CD.

[deckard8]

Burrrn 1.14 beta2. (Freeware)

Description:

Burn audio CDs the easy way!

Burrrn is a little tool for creating audio CDs with CD-Text from various audio files.
Supported formats are: wav, mp3, mpc, ogg, aac, mp4, ape, flac, ofr, wv, tta, m3u, pls and fpl playlists and cue sheets. You can also burn EAC’s noncompliant image + cue sheets! Burrrn can read all types of tags from all these formats (including ape tags in mp3). Burrrn uses cdrdao.exe for burning.

http://www.burrrn.net/?page_id=4

[bevills1]

The problem with selecting "Make audio CD" in Nero for example is files are too large to fit on a CD while WMA, MP3, AAC, etc. fit with room to spare but won't play on CD players. I believe the CDA files would fit if there was a way to convert to CDA because that's file type used when copies of music CDs are made. Is there something like DVDShrink for CDs that would compress files to fit?

[cd090580]

On cdr you can only put 80 minutes of music or 700 MB.

3 minutes mp3 (+/- 3 mb) -> 30 MB in WAV (cd audio)

[sanjayk]

It seems that your CD player does not support "MP3 CD". A MP3 CD is simply a CD written in data mode with MP3 files stored on it. An audio cd is a different format altogether taking about 44100 samples/s × 16 bit/sample × 2 channels = 1411.2 kbit/s (more than 10 MB per minute)

If you want to play music in your CD player then you need to convert your MP3s to a audio cd. In terms of number of songs, a audio will contain less songs than a MP3 CD.

[bevills1]

As stated in my 6/19 post some files are too large to fit on CD when attempting to make an audio CD. In my case it's class lectures I want to burn to and play on CD which is why some files are too large. It seems I'm out of luck if there's no file compression program for audio files.

[Bjs]

You did mention

into a regular audio CD-R disc or the hard drive

Yes that was a typo , it was meant to be 44100 ... was a busy night answering xbox360 caps questions .

If to hard drive , then thats not a problem .

But to cdr , if they are too large to fit onto a single cdr , you are going to have to split those ones .

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In car gives another choice as mp3 player using an fm transmitter in which you tune the car radio to the frequency of the device , which is popular .

[mats.hogberg]

Or, if the audio is just a little too big - make it play faster! Crude, but it works. Goldwave has a Timewarp function to make the audio play faster while keeping the pitch. If it's a person reading text, it will only sound like he/she's talking faster.

/Mats

[bevills1]

One file is 137 minutes as WAV file which is nearly 2 full CDs in size which would likely play too fast if any Timewarp function were used. How can such large files be split?

[byteguy]

One file is 137 minutes as WAV file which is nearly 2 full CDs in size which would likely play too fast if any Timewarp function were used. How can such large files be split?

MP3DirectCut will chop up an MP3 file into manageable sizes. You can have it try to find silent spots or you can tell it to cut the file into segments that are X seconds/minutes long.

You will then need to put as many as you can fit on each CD.

You'll also want to check your burning program's help file and find out about "gapless" or "disk-at-once" burning so that it doesn't add a two-second pause between each track.

I like CDRToolsFrontEnd. Go to the Audio CD tab, add your tracks, click on the Tracks button, choose the "no pause" option, then click on the "DAO" letters in the middle of the screen. Not the fastest or cutest program out there... but it works and it's free.

[deckard8]

One file is 137 minutes as WAV file which is nearly 2 full CDs in size which would likely play too fast if any Timewarp function were used. How can such large files be split?

If it's recorded in stereo (2 tracks) removing one of the tracks
and saving it as a mono wav should cut it's size in half and if
it's just speech it won't matter at all. A decent wav editor such
as Audacity should be able to do it.

[deckard8]

If it's recorded in stereo (2 tracks) removing one of the tracks
and saving it as a mono wav should cut it's size in half and if
it's just speech it won't matter at all. A decent wav editor such
as Audacity should be able to do it.

Ahh no ,

Just thought about it. Wav files have to be 16 bit stereo to create
standard audio cd.

[MOVIEGEEK]

Here are some great freeware tools:
CDex -ripper,batch converter
Audacity -audio editor
CDWave -splitting WAV files and recording analog,also does sample rate/bit depth conversion
MP3 Splitter -MP3 splitting without reencoding
MP3 Gain -MP3 volume normalizer without reencoding

[bevills1]

Properties of the original WMA file show "Windows Media(TM) Audio" which I'm unsure whether mono or stereo. I tried Audacity at 44,100 HZ 16 bit and exported the split file as 2 WAV files and then burned as audio CD using Nero, but resulting CDs still won't play on CD player. I don't know if any other suggested programs will work, but I'm beginning to think there's no way to make audio CDs to play on CD players.

[Jim44]

I just did this with a .WMA file. This was the procedure that worked for me:
- Converted WMA to MP3 with Audacity;
- Loaded MP3 into my CD creating/burning application and burnt to CD and played it in my car's CD player.

I happen to use an older CD creation application, Feurio. I've also created/burned audio CDs from podcasts (MP3) with WMP.

Dunno if that'll help you or not - I've never used Nero, so can't help with that. But I've been making audio CDs and been playing them on my car's CD player for a couple of years now.

Jim

[MOVIEGEEK]

Properties of the original WMA file show "Windows Media(TM) Audio" which I'm unsure whether mono or stereo. I tried Audacity at 44,100 HZ 16 bit and exported the split file as 2 WAV files and then burned as audio CD using Nero, but resulting CDs still won't play on CD player. I don't know if any other suggested programs will work, but I'm beginning to think there's no way to make audio CDs to play on CD players.

Some players don't support CD-R,it's rare though.
Does it play on your PC?

[bevills1]

It seems Feurio may be unsuitable for my system. I downloaded and installed Feurio which gives a message that a long list of drivers may interfere with Feurio and should be disabled when burning a project was attempted. I don't want to disable all those drivers because I'm sure many other programs wouldn't function correctly if I did. I tried to burn a project using Feurio without disabling drivers, and both floppy and hard drives are continually accessed without any burning commencing.

Both original WMA files and the converted MP3 files do play on the PC and play on my DVD player when burned to CD but won't play on either a portable CD player or car CD player. Same CD players play CD-R backup copies of music CDs which likely indicates they support CD-R, but refuse to play any audio CDs I've tried.

[Jim44]

Like I said, Feurio is an old program. But that aside, any CD burning program should work, once you have the WMA file converted to MP3. Simply load the MP3 into whatever burning app, and burn it. WMP can do this, as can several free tools.

I use CD-R discs (even cheap ones ) and have not had a problem. I burn 3-5 CDs a week, and they play in any of my non-MP3-capable players. Music or speaking/talk, doesn't matter, it's all the same to the burning app once it's an MP3.

I'm not sure why this particular file won't play, when you said you've got other burned CDs that play. Sorry I can't be more help.

Jim

[jman98]

Properties of the original WMA file show "Windows Media(TM) Audio" which I'm unsure whether mono or stereo. I tried Audacity at 44,100 HZ 16 bit and exported the split file as 2 WAV files and then burned as audio CD using Nero, but resulting CDs still won't play on CD player. I don't know if any other suggested programs will work, but I'm beginning to think there's no way to make audio CDs to play on CD players.

Possibilities include:
1) Your CD player won't accept your media. Um, you didn't burn to CD-RW and think it didn't matter did you? Because it does! Many standalone CD players won't accept CD-RW media. Also, what brand of disc did you use? Some are crap. If you really burned a CD audio disc to decent CD-R media, it should work. It is rare to find CD players that won't accept CD-R discs, but it does happen.
2) Are you sure you made an audio CD? Can you play it on a PC? Put it in a PC. Does a software CD audio player try to play it? Can you look at the contents of the CD? Do you see some files that end in .CDA on it? If you see files that end in something other than .CDA, you may have made a data disc and that's why it doesn't work.
3) Can you play it on a DVD player? Even CD-RW media usually works on DVD players. An inability to play it on many different devices that can play CD audio discs would tend to indicate a problem in what you are doing.

[bevills1]

In fact I was using CDRW thinking it didn't matter, and jman98 is correct it does. I verified this by copying a music CD to CDRW which gives same error message as the other audio files burned to CDRW as audio CD. Then I tried burning an MP3 CD to CD-R, but it still won't play on CD players. No error is given with the CD-R, but CD player just keeps spinning the CD as if it were playing without playing. This must indicate the CD players aren't MP3 compatible.

I could probably burn WAV files to audio CD on CD-R that will play, but WAV files take much more space. As original WMA files 5 files only take about 400 MB on a CD, but those same 5 files would require 2 files be split and take 7 CDs to burn all files. That consumes too many discs that are write once for something like class lectures that's only needed for a brief time. It'll likely be more cost effective in the long run to just buy another portable recorder. Too bad there's not a small file size format compatible with all CD players.

[jman98]

bevills1 - After reading your post, I think we have 2 issues here.

1) You burned to CD-RW. As I told you, that won't work in many standalone CD players.
2) It seems to me from reading your post that you are NOT burning an audio CD, but actually a data CD, which also won't work in standalone CD audio players. Until you understand the difference, it will never work for you.

I told you how to use Nero to burn an AUDIO CD. This is NOT the same thing as a data CD! The problem is that we are telling you exactly what you need to do to make this work and you are completely not understanding what we are telling you. Your first post said that you want to make a "regular audio CD-R". I told you how to do this. This is compatible with all standalone CD players and while it is possible that some players might refuse to play certain CD-R brands, it is unlikely. You are continuing to make data CDs it seems, which are NOT compatible with CD audio players unless they explicitly say that they support the format. Until you actually burn an audio CD format disc to CD-R (NOT CD-RW!!!) and try it, we are going to go around and around where you say that nothing works and you are actually not doing at all what we are trying to tell you to do.

[jman98]

I could probably burn WAV files to audio CD on CD-R that will play, but WAV files take much more space. As original WMA files 5 files only take about 400 MB on a CD, but those same 5 files would require 2 files be split and take 7 CDs to burn all files. That consumes too many discs that are write once for something like class lectures that's only needed for a brief time. It'll likely be more cost effective in the long run to just buy another portable recorder. Too bad there's not a small file size format compatible with all CD players.

This is because the specs for CD audio were defined long before there was any such thing as MP3 and WMA. CD audio gives you 80 minutes of playing time on an 80 minute CD-R, so if you have to split 2 files, they are quite long at being over 80 minutes each.

[bevills1]

On the contrary, I understand completely. As stated in my 7/24 post it seems my players don't support MP3, recording as audio CD to CD-R should work and using so many CD-R for temporary use makes no economic sense. I've decided to get another portable recorder instead.