Encoding 16:9 mpeg2 with Tmpgenc plus

[spycam]

Hello
I captured my home video from a camcorder to PC, the video was shot in wide mode. Now i took Tmpgenc plus software to encode dvd mpeg2 from the uncompressed avi and I surely wanted to have it done in 16:9 aspect ratio.

What i did in encoding settings was:



The final result I got did not satisfy me, as on my widescreen TV I need to go and manually set WIDE mode to watch the result DVD video in right mode, however, the commercial DVDs does not require this manual WIDE setting, they start showing movies in right mode.

Also, I noticed, that uncompressed AVI in WMP was showing in wide mode, but after encoding to mpg2, it was playing just like general (4:3 or what it is) mode.

Question, what I was doing wrong or what should i do so the video is showed as wide (16:9) without manual selection of WIDE mode, when i load my DVD?

Thanks for help!
Thanks in advance.

[guns1inger]

When you authored the disc, did you author it as 16:9 ? For 16:9 DVD, both the encoding and the authoring needs to be 16:9

[spycam]

I use Tmpgenc DVD Author software, i don't see where i could set the aspect ratio to be 19:6. Also, it shows that the source video is 4:3

[TJohns]

You say you've shot the source in 16:9, but in your SOURCE SETTINGS page you've told TMPG the source is 4:3 ... I think this might be confusing the encode (maybe letterboxing the "4:3" into a 16:9 output??)

Trev

[jagabo]

You say you've shot the source in 16:9, but in your SOURCE SETTINGS page you've told TMPG the source is 4:3 ...

Yes, that's the problem.

[spycam]

Well,
as you see, the video is encoded in 16:9 aspect ratio - see the screenshots of the settings i uses to encode my video.
No imagine, that the result mpeg file is loaded into Tmpgenc DVD Author program to author DVD disk, but the source movie seems to be shown as 4:3 and there's no place to change it in Tmpgenc DVD Author.

If i encoded the mpg wrong, tell me how to encode it right, what settings to change?

[jagabo]

TMPGEnc Plus -> Setting -> Advanced -> Source Aspect Ratio -> 16:9 525 line PAL. Your other settings looked ok.

[spycam]

There's no such setting as 16:9 525 line PAL, only 16:9 625 line PAL, so I picked it up for encoding now.
Will see if it works fine.

Thanks for help

[jagabo]

There's no such setting as 16:9 525 line PAL, only 16:9 625 line PAL, so I picked it up for encoding now.

Sorry, it was a typo. Yes, 16:9 625 line PAL is what you want.

[spycam]

Hi
I encoded the mpeg and burned DVD once again.
Now i still don't have the needed result, even if video is in 16:9 ratio now.

When i set to play this DVD, my Sony widescreen TV starts showing it in ZOOM mode, not in wide, like it should. When i go to wide mode manually, the vide is too wide, meaning black bars on top and bottom are added what it just not right like it should be.

Any other suggestions?

[Abond]

Load the source file in VDubMod. Choose a frame and snapshot a picture from the source.
Load the encoded file. Get the same frame and snapshot a picture.
Post them both here.

[spycam]

source:



result:

[Abond]

Now load the encoded file in Restream. What you see as AspectRatio flag?

[guns1inger]

The bottom looks like 16:9 PAL to me.

If you open the second one in virtualdub again, then right-click on the display window and select 16:9, how does it look ?

[jagabo]

Why is your source 768x432? No Camcorder uses that frame size.

Abond suggested VirtualDubMod for a reason -- it doesn't adjust the frame size to compensate for aspect ratio. Without seeing the actual frames it's hard to tell what is going wrong.

[Abond]

Abond suggested VirtualDubMod for a reason -- it doesn't adjust the frame size to compensate for aspect ratio. Without seeing the actual frames it's hard to tell what is going wrong.

Ehrm, that was the reason, but it seems the last (1.5.10.1) VDubMod can compensate. I am using mostly 1.5.4.1.

[spycam]

Now load the encoded file in Restream. What you see as AspectRatio flag?

It says 16:9

If you open the second one in virtualdub again, then right-click on the display window and select 16:9, how does it look ?

Well, it becomes "wider" but not what it should be, as some black bars are on sides of the video anyways.

Why is your source 768x432? No Camcorder uses that frame size.

Abond suggested VirtualDubMod for a reason -- it doesn't adjust the frame size to compensate for aspect ratio. Without seeing the actual frames it's hard to tell what is going wrong.

Virtualdubmod shows me the following error, when i try to load my almost 20gig uncompressed avi file:
[!] Couldn't locate decompressor for format 'dvsd' (unknown).
VirtualDub requires a Video for Windows (VFW) compatible codec to
decompress video. DirectShow codecs, such as those used by Windows Media
Player, are not suitable. Only 'Direct stream copy' is available for this
video.

So i made screencap of the source avi uncompressed video by other program, as i didn't find any of that VFW compatible codec that worked

[spycam]

On the other hand, should there be black bars on sides of the result mpeg2 video file anyways?
I'm totally lost here, as i thought the last time i did everything right, but result does make me wonder

[Abond]

About the error in vDubMod: Install Panasonic DV codec (well, this is what I have installed). The black bars might be from the fact that your camcoder video is not trully 16:9, but letterboxed 4:3 (that is 16:9 image with blackborders coded for 4:3 display). OTOH the encoded file from TMPG shows black bars at the sides - as 4:3 image pillarboxed for 16:9 display. Now it is extremely important to know what aspect ratio are your source files. You stated they are captured as uncompressed files through your capture card - well, explain a bit please. Are they DV avi or they are uncompressed avi? Which kind of card you used to capture?

[jagabo]

It looks like everything worked the way it should. You can get rid of the black bars by setting Video Arrange Method to Full Screen rather than Full Screen (Keep Aspect Ratio).

[spycam]

About the error in vDubMod: Install Panasonic DV codec (well, this is what I have installed). The black bars might be from the fact that your camcoder video is not trully 16:9, but letterboxed 4:3 (that is 16:9 image with blackborders coded for 4:3 display). OTOH the encoded file from TMPG shows black bars at the sides - as 4:3 image pillarboxed for 16:9 display. Now it is extremely important to know what aspect ratio are your source files. You stated they are captured as uncompressed files through your capture card - well, explain a bit please. Are they DV avi or they are uncompressed avi? Which kind of card you used to capture?

I installed this Panasonic codec and now made a screencap of source avi file with Virtualdubmod:



I captured the source video from my camcorder to my laptop via FireWire connection, no hardware capture cards were used, i used some little app to capture the video, i doesn't remember the name of it now, as it's on a laptop and i'm writing from my desktop pc now. My camcorder is MiniDV, so i guess the video is DV, but i'm not sure. It's almost 20gig avi file worth 1 hour and 30 min of video.

[guns1inger]

DV is approx 13gb/hr of footage, so your size sounds right. The image above look to be 16:9 PAL DV, although there is no clear reference point. Something round, straight on, would help.

[spycam]

Hmm
so what else i could clear to get some decent answer helping to solve my problem?

[guns1inger]

Open one of the VOBs from your authored DVD in G-spot and post a screenshot. A screenshot from one of the encoded mpeg files would also be good.

[spycam]

[jagabo]

You need a newer version of GSpot. You're old version doesn't support VOB and M2V files.

[guns1inger]

Current version 2.70 or better

[spycam]

Refresh the page, i replaced Gspot screenshots

[jagabo]

Your source appears to be 16:9, and both the MPEG and VOB files are 16:9. That should play like any commercial 16:9 DVD on a TV.

[Abond]

@spycam
You set the source resolution as 704x576 in TMPG. Is this for a reason? Because your source should be 720x576. That is, I think, why TMPG put two thiny black stripes at the left-right edges.