Problem - Converting AVS-Scripts using SUPER v1.811

[gapu]

Olla.. hi people!

i am new here! i normally can solve any problems when it comes to video editing, but not this time! i am not a newbie, but also not a specialist! I'd be really glad if someone would have an answer to the following question....


so the title says it all! but i tell you what i did... step by step

1, recording video from vhs to pc
2, cropping the vid file using DVD2AVI
3, saving the project that i just made with DVD2AVI
4, making a fake avi file from the project file that i made with DVD2AVI using a programm called vfapi
5, writing a avs-script

there actually no problem till this point. i can open the vid correctly with virtual dub, tmpeg, andandand.... but i can't convert the vid with SUPER v1.811

The thing is i want to create an MPEG file.. i know i could use several programs like tmpeg. but i want to use SUPER, cause its fast as ****... and that's pretty important to me.

I already read that SUPER is able to convert avs files... but i also had the suspicion that my version of the programm (v1.811) isnt able to convert avs. i dont exactly know.... but my pc isnt the newest one -> means the new SUPER version doesnt let me installing it onto my pc and other programms like tmpg OR xmpeg are pretty slow compared to SUPER.


Any ideas? any help appreciated
thanks in advance
gapu

[gadgetguy]

Do you get en error message?

[gapu]

yes, the typical super error message.
you know: "your input/source file requires to simply select MENCODER...." of course i also tried it with mencoder.. and it still says i should selecet MENCODER although it IS selected.

[gadgetguy]

Actually, I don't know since I don't use Super but if you don't get an error when you open the script in Vdub then my guess is that it's a colorspace issue.

[gapu]

oh, that doesnt sound good at all...

do you have any idea what i should do? i guess i cant proof, if it is really a colorspace issue.


do you use dvd2avi? i just ask cause there i can choose between rgb and yuv. there are also other settings in the video categorei.. but i dont have much clue what all this stuff is good for...

[gadgetguy]

edit your .avs and add one of the ConvertTo commands on the last line.
ConvertToRGB (clip, bool "interlaced")
ConvertToRGB24 (clip, bool "interlaced")
ConvertToRGB32 (clip, bool "interlaced")
ConvertToYUY2 (clip, bool "interlaced")
ConvertToYV12 (clip, bool "interlaced")

Edit: and no, I don't use dvd2avi either. I edit my avisynth scripts directly.

[gapu]

awwww, tricky business....

i'll try it... and if it doesnt work i just came across an idea
i'll be back

THANK YOU!

[gapu]

ok, i dont really think it is colorspace issue, because i made a few tests and it seems like super isn't taking any *.avs files... at least my version of super.

can i modify super so that it accepts avs files...? are there any *.dll files that i can copy into the folder where super is installed? any plugins for this version... or is this a stupid question?

[gadgetguy]

As I said, I don't use Super so I can't help with that part, but could you copy and paste your script? Maybe I can find a fault there. Include one with the colorspace conversions I suggested.

[gapu]

well there's actually not much information in the script... just where the file is located, the size of the vid, a croping function and optional the ConvertTo Commands that you told me (i tried it with every single one of those)

script:
*
DirectShowSource("E:\Media\Movies\Ghostbusters\Ext reme Ghostbusters\f_egb.avi")
Crop(0,0,704,560)
BicubicResize(352,288)

*I also tried it with AviSource instead of DirectShowSource, cause DirectShowSource is actually for mpeg


i tried it also with simple script like (just a textfile without an actual footage like a video):
colorbars(720,480)
BicubicResize(320,240)
Trim(0,300)


and both times every programm was able to read the files, but not super.

[gapu]

i also tried the script with the original mpeg file, like:
DirectShowSource("E:\Media\Movies\Ghostbusters\Ext reme Ghostbusters\EGB_ORGINAL.mpg")


and then the rest added

[gadgetguy]

Those certainly are simple scripts. I know the second one outputs the uncompressed RGB32 colorspace so if you tried both appending ConvertToYV12() or ConvertToYUY2() to it and it still doesn't work then it definately isn't a colorspace issue.

[gapu]

the script is pretty simple, because the video file is actually pretty good. i just want to crop the bottom of the vid. but yes i tried both commands, like you said. and at the second try i even used rgb colorspace when i re-saved the project at dvd2avi -> means it's probably not a colorspace issue.

so i guess we both have not any new ideas about how to solve my issue at the moment.. i hope i will find a way sooner or later, but for now: thanks a lot!


if anyone's got any idea's please let me know

[Ai Haibara]

Have you tried installing the latest version of SUPER? They might have fixed the problem you were having in installing a previous build (note: there's been three builds since v1.811, and I think they're close to releasing another. The thing to keep in mind, though, is that the SUPER programmer(s) have designed it so that installing a new version disables the ability to use older versions.)

You can also try asking your question at the SUPER forums at http://www.erightsoft.com/Supforum.html - but they'll certainly recommend you use the latest version.

[gapu]

i once downloaded a new version and wanted to install it but it did not let me, because the programm said that my pc is too slow for it to run... (which is actually a stupid reason, cause who cares if i need 20minutes or 30minutes to convert a video?)

but you're right! i should try to install a newer version.. one of the latest versions could work! i hope they are all online at their website, cause its probably hard to find those 3 different versions.... and yeah, i really should ask my question on the superboard too.
that idea is so good, it could be mine!

Thanks!

[gapu]

does anyone actually have the versions that followed SUPER v1.811? i found just dead links or links that brought me to the newest version?

i'd appreciate it if someone could upload them!
cheers

[celtic_druid]

Why would you use VFAPI? That means a fourced RGB colourspace conversion. My advice would be to use DGIndex instead of DVD2AVI and use dgdecode and MPEG2Source().

mencoder has supported AVISynth scripts for quite some time now. ffmpeg got official support a month or so ago. Not sure if mencoder still requires a patch for audio support or not though. Also not sure how super works either. Simply create a commandline for mencoder/ffmpeg or decode and pipe raw video? Also not sure what build of mencoder it includes. You could try my mplayer compile and see if it plays the script.

[gapu]

DGIndex is defenitely better.. i checked it out yesterday

and TODAY i downloaded the new version from SUPER, its v.2006 build 19 (4.26.2006)
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaand i was able to install it on my pc! i guess it's the latest version but as i said before i had a newer version which didnt let me installing it.. the latest one does let me installing, great. maybe they decided to leave this function? dont know...

as for avs scripts: i checked it out with my new version, it was able to convert a mpeg1 vid, but not mpeg2 which was pretty strange.. actually i was kinda pissed of, because the vids i want to convert are mpeg2, but then i found this crazy cropping button, CROPPING yeah.. means i dont need avs scripts anymore to crop the ugly bottom of my beautiful videos! YAY.. Problem solved! let's party all togehter!

once again.... THANK YOU all very much for your help!
cheers




I'm off.... converting

[Ai Haibara]

Hmm... that's odd. I don't think SUPER (>ffmpeg/mencoder) should have any problems accepting MPEG-2 video or converting from it, but... oh, well.

[gapu]

yes its weird... and i dont think i've done anything wrong, but who cares... at the moment i dont need it anyway!