how big is your carbon footprint?

[MackemX]

this global warming and dimming makes you think what it's going to be like in 100 years time

Your Total Carbon Footprint : 14,238 kg of carbon dioxide

so how big is your carbon footprint? (I know in the USA it will have different fuel prices so usage will vary but you can divide $ by 1.72 to get your £ conversion anyway)

http://www.carbonfootprint.com/calculator.html


I'd hate to be living on the coast as the sea levels are no doubt going to rise nomatter how small

http://www.carbonfootprint.com/warming.html
http://www.carbonfootprint.com/dimming.html

What will happen in the future if we do nothing?
Climate model simulations predict an increase in average surface air temperature of about 2.5°C by the year 2100 (Kattenberg et al., 1996).

The likelihood of "killer" heat waves during the warm season will increase (Karl et al., 1997)

The IPCC Second Assessment Report estimates that a sea-levels will rise by approximately 49 cm over the next 100 years, with a range of uncertainty of 20-86 cm.

Sea-level rise will lead to increased coastal flooding through direct inundation and an increase in the base for storm surges, allowing flooding of larger areas and higher elevations.

Further melting of the Artic Ice Caps (at the current rate) could be sufficient to turn off the ocean currents that drive the Gulf Stream, which keeps Britain up to 6oC warmer than it would otherwise be.

[lordsmurf]

Don't pay in GBP.
Don't measure by litres.
Not sure my miles are the same length as yours.

Can't take the survey.

[MackemX]

Don't pay in GBP.
Don't measure by litres.
Not sure my miles are the same length as yours.

Can't take the survey.

you can if you convert a little and so what if it's out by a 'mile'

If I take off my flights then I'm only 8,501 kg as it just shows how much crap that planes spew out!

40% of my carbon footprint is due to 2 short flights and 1 long haul flight . That's compared to £500 in gas/electric bills and 10,000 miles in a 2,8 litre car along with a few miles by bus/train. Those aren't my exact figures as I haven't got a clue as to what they are exactly

[MackemX]

you can do just one if you like

Your Total Carbon Footprint : 4,025 kg of carbon dioxide

that's just for my car doing 10,000 miles a year! (that's the same as one long haul flight)

[thecoalman]

Bogus as far as the coal is concerned, they don't specify what type of coal. Anthracite is by far much cleaner than any other coal. Considering I know your not burning anthracite the survey would be inaccurate for me....

[Ironballs]

The planet's been warming for the last 10,000 years and most of that time without humans burning fossil fuels

[lordsmurf]

We have not been measuring the effects long enough to grasp anything other than theories. I really don't know which way to follow.

What I can say is totally ignoring it is wrong. On the other hand, the obsessed tree huggers are retards too. Must find a middle ground.

[yoda313]

Here here lordsmurf an excellent point of view that I share. We can't be certain about anything in the short period we've directly observed scientifically. And ironballs also has a good point that we're in a warming period since the last ice age!

[Ironballs]

Man I thought I was going to be flamed something rotten by the tree-huggers, yes I agree monitor the situation, but don't kack your pants whenever there's a tidal wave/hurricane/earthquake and blame it on global warming.

(I help design Jaguar and landrovers, so gotta admit a vested interest

Still like my manager says, what's the next generation ever done for us?

[MackemX]

I'm not a tree hugger and I won't be around to see the effects anyway . I just realise that the crap we have been putting into the atmosphere in the last 100 years or so will be having an effect Especially more in the last 50 years due to commercial airline increase. I guess I've seen to many science programs :P

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sn/tvradio/programmes/horizon/dimming_prog_summary.shtml

The effect was first spotted by Gerry Stanhill, an English scientist working in Israel. Comparing Israeli sunlight records from the 1950s with current ones, Stanhill was astonished to find a large fall in solar radiation. "There was a staggering 22% drop in the sunlight, and that really amazed me," he says.

Intrigued, he searched out records from all around the world, and found the same story almost everywhere he looked, with sunlight falling by 10% over the USA, nearly 30% in parts of the former Soviet Union, and even by 16% in parts of the British Isles. Although the effect varied greatly from place to place, overall the decline amounted to 1-2% globally per decade between the 1950s and the 1990s.

as for not having enough records and the been warming last 10000 years stuff, I'd say a 1-2% decline per decade in sunlight hitting the earth by looking at the records between 1950-90's tells me something is going to happen eventually

I saw the program a while back now and this quote is interesting how global dimmimg partially cancels the effect of global warming

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sn/tvradio/programmes/horizon/dimming_trans.shtml

We've got two competing effects really, that we've got the greenhouse effect, which has tended to warm up the climate. But then we've got this other effect that's much stronger than we thought, which is a cooling effect that comes from particles in the atmosphere. And they're competing with one another. And we know the climate's moved to a warmer state by about point six of a degree over the last hundred years. So the whole thing's moved this way. If it turns out that the cooling is stronger than we thought then the warming also is a lot stronger than we thought, and that means the climate's more sensitive to carbon dioxide than we originally thought, and it means our models may be under sensitive to carbon dioxide.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sn/tvradio/programmes/horizon/dimming_qa.shtml



it doesn't take a scientist to tell me crap like that picture above has an effect on sunlight . It's pretty obvious that these man made clouds that can form from contrails that can spread out over 1,000's of square kilometres have an effect

makes an interesting read if you read it all

Still like my manager says, what's the next generation ever done for us?

given us our Grandchildren one day?