DVD Burner Problem!

[diE]

Hi,
Ok, let me explain this to you guys in brief because it's really long.

- I recieved a new burner (replacement order) so it's the same burner as I had before, but this one for some reason (NERO says) can burn Dual Layer DVD's as well (my other one couldn't)

- I burned a DVD at 2x, it worked fine in my DVD Player.

- I burner a DVD at 4x, because NERO said I could burn at 4x, so I burned at 4x, and it only worked on the computer not on my standalone DVD Player.

- I assumed it was because my DVD-R's could only burn at 2x (video) so I bought 8x RIDATA DVD-R, and burned something at 4x and now it still doesn't work in my DVD player, but works fine on the computer.

- I checked my drive speed using NERO and it said I can write at 8.0X (used the NERO InfoTool)

Now, I am really puzzled because this burner is the same one as the one I had before, but has more capabilities somehow. It should/can burn at 8x, but then the dvd's don't work in my DVD player. So, is this a problem with my Nero InfoTool (giving me wrong information), or is there some other problem? Is it maybe because my standalone has some kind of caps or something? It's kind of weird, if anyone knows whats happening and can help, it would be greatly appreciated.

Regards,
DiRect

[diE]

Just to add to that, found a website that explains the specifications of my burner.

http://www.cdrinfo.com/Sections/Reviews/Specific.aspx?ArticleId=12429

It's actually from HL-DS, but thats a company of LG, so its the same burner. It says it should be able to burn DVD-R's at upto 16x.

Guess it must be some kind of problem with my Standalone DVD Player, I have a DV-750 Model from Sharp, anyone know if there is something on my DVD or my burned DVD that is not supported by my DVD Player?

[diE]

Hi,
Just to update on the situation, I checked my DVD speed (the actual media) with Nero and it can burn at a max of 8x (it jumped to burning at 8x right away). My burner (I updated the firmware just right now) can now better burn the DVD's (haven't tested another DVD). It's capapable of burning at a speed of 16x. Now, can anyone help? I think that is enough information. Using WinXP

Regards,
DiRect

[Denvers Dawgs]

Nero isn't that great for burning or so I have read many times.

[soneman]

I've got an LG DVD Rewriter aswell (LG GSA-5163D to be precise - recognised as HL-DT-ST in WinXP) and I haven't had any problems with my burned DVDs on any of my DVD players.

My drive, like yours, is capable of 16x write for DVD-R and supports dual layer discs.

I think the burning program you're using and/or the blank DVD media you're using could be the problem.

I mean, I use authentic Sony 8x DVD-R and I burn at 4x with DVD Decrypter and my DVD videos have worked on my PC, Yakumo and Alba DVD players as well as my Playstation 2.

I doubt your problem is hardware related.

[diE]

Hi,
Than what could the problem be? They work just fine on my computer. Should I try them in a different player and see if it's the player that's the problem? It has to be the player, because there is nothing wrong with the burner because if it at least plays on the computer, then that means that it works, so there is something else going on.

Regards,
diE

[soneman]

Hi,
Than what could the problem be? They work just fine on my computer. Should I try them in a different player and see if it's the player that's the problem? It has to be the player, because there is nothing wrong with the burner because if it at least plays on the computer, then that means that it works, so there is something else going on.

Regards,
diE

If you think it might be your DVD player then by all means, try another DVD player.

But from what you've posted so far, I can definitely suggest that you try to use better DVD media.

Use DVD Identifier to identify the manufacturer of your blank DVD media and then have a look at the media hit/miss list here:

http://www.digitalfaq.com/media/dvdmedia.htm

There are some brands of blank DVD media that don't play well in certain DVD players.

By the way, what brand is your DVD player?

[diE]

Hi,
OK, I use a very high quality of media brand. I use Ridata Ritek discs (used to use 4x, now use 8x but still burn at 4x). My DVD Player is the Sharp DV-750 and it has no problems playing the same discs burned at 2x (with the 4x discs, because the 8x discs cannot burn at 2x) so if it doesn't work then my money will have gone to a waste because I bought like a 50 pack of Ridata Ritek DVD-R's.

Regards,
diE

[soneman]

You say that the newer 8x Ridata discs are the ones that are not playing in your DVD player. But your 4x Ridata discs are the ones that do work in your DVD player. Is that correct?

If so, I think that it's possible that your DVD player isn't compatible with the newer 8x Ridata discs.

Like I said, try a higher quality brand of disc. Brands like Verbatim, Taiyo Yuden, Maxell and Sony are excellent quality blank discs.

Alternatively, if you're still having problems, you can always go over to the cdfreaks forum. They're the techies when it comes to optical drives. You'd need to be a member or register before you can post but here's the link:

http://club.cdfreaks.com/forumdisplay.php?f=91

[diE]

Hi,
No, the 4x discs don't work if I burned them at 4x, but they did work if I burned them at 2x. Now the 8x discs only have two speeds (4x and 8x) and my burner can burn at upto 16x but I am still burning at 4x, so it doesn't matter if it's the older discs or the newer discs (well they are not new, but just new because I have never used them before), if it is burned at 4x or higher they don't work. Hope someone can help.

Regards,
diE

[soneman]

Hi,
No, the 4x discs don't work if I burned them at 4x, but they did work if I burned them at 2x. Now the 8x discs only have two speeds (4x and 8x) and my burner can burn at upto 16x but I am still burning at 4x, so it doesn't matter if it's the older discs or the newer discs (well they are not new, but just new because I have never used them before), if it is burned at 4x or higher they don't work. Hope someone can help.

Regards,
diE

I'm getting confused here.

If the newer Ridata discs work on your DVD player after burning at 4x but not 8x, then what's the problem?

Sometimes, it's best to burn at slower speeds.

I mean, I have a very similiar DVD Rewriter to yours. Yes, it's possible to burn at 16x but as a rule of thumb, you should try to burn at slower speeds to increase compatibility.

Just because you can write at 16x speed, it doesn't necessarily mean you should always burn at 16x speed (or the highest speed possible for that matter).

If you still need help, then I suggest you try the CD Freaks forum. The link is in my previous post.

[diE]

Hi,
Umm, ok, I don't burn anything at 16x or even 8x, I burned those DVD's at 4x and they don't work in my DVD Player. DVD's on the same media burned at 2x work just fine in my standalone DVD Player, so what could the problem be?

Regards,
diE

[free is better]

i agree with soneman. all things being equal as they say, the real variable is the media. i have a benq 400a wih 8x firmware and i purchased 8x media. I have consistent playback problems when i burn at 8x (picture freezes) but i have a better rate of success at 4x. I suggest trying top of the line media(buy a 25 pack) as a test to eliminate the hardware as the problem.

[diE]

Hi,
WoW, just to update on my situation, the DVD I burned at 8x is working perfectly fine in my DVD Player (no problems at all) on the exact same media, so now what else could the problem be? How come 8x works but 4x doesn't? That's just weird, the faster is supposed to be crappier (although I do remember my dad telling me that the 8x took much longer to burn then the 4x (this was before I updated my firmware)). Right now, I am going to burn at another DVD at 4x (after I've updated my firmware) and then burn one at 8x and see which one actually works and I will let you guys know to see if anyone knows what's going on.

Regards,
diE

[diE]

Hi,
Just noticed when trying to burn a DVD at 8x with DVD Decrypter, that it is burning below 2x so it's kind of weird because the only 2 allowed speeds (my dvd media allows) is 4x and 8x so I wonder how it is burning below 2x (this is so messed up). That has recently been happening with DVD Decrypter, even with my older burner, the speed kept going up and down, but this time it's no where near where I selected it (way below) even when I chose to only burn at 2x. After this I am going to try burning at 4x and if it actually burns at 4x, then I know there is nothing wrong with NERO because NERO takes forever burning at 8x as well (so I think it burns at the same speed DVD Decrypter is burning right now) and if DVD Decrypter can burn at a speed of 4x, that means the problem lies somewhere else and not in my media (because I checked my media thorugh NERO and its capable of burning at 8x and my drive is capapable of burning at 16x)

Regards,
diE

[Denvers Dawgs]

If 8x works fine in your dvd player, and 4x does not work. Why not just burn @ 8x? Problem Solved?

Some media rated at one speed say 8 or 16x, doesn't always come out better if you burn those media at a slower speed (2x-4X). I remember reading a few posts here awhile back about it.

[diE]

Yes, but my media only has 2 speeds (4x and 8x) when I burn at 8x, it burns slower then when I burn at 4x (with NERO). Right now I am burning with DVD Decrypter (at 8x and it burned slower than 2x and than tried to burn at 4x and its still burning at 2x) but then it works in my DVD Player. So basically, the only burned discs that are not working in the player are the ones that are burned at 4x (and actually burn at 4x) through NERO. Wonder what's wrong.

[Denvers Dawgs]

What type of computer are you burning dvds on. How much RAM? ow fast is it, GHz? Are there anyother programs running while burning?

1. Use DVD Identifier to identify the manufacturer of your blank DVD media. You tell us they are Ridata Ritek discs, but don't tell use who actually made the discs. Some manufactures are better than others, and some/most dvd-rs that are BRANDX (example-fuji) are made by several differnet companies, thus you may have a High Quality Brand name, but getting poor craftsmanship discs? So we need the ID code from identifier. It should look something like MCC003.....TY002....etc....

2. Is this dvd burner your using new? If so, it may be a faulty burner...

3. As of right now I'm lost on what the problem could be. Hopefully something will come to mind, so I'll actually be able to help you....

[ricky1756]

are you using +r or -r discs

[Denvers Dawgs]

as stated above he's using -r disc....

I assumed it was because my DVD-R's could only burn at 2x (video) so I bought 8x RIDATA DVD-R

[diE]

Hi,
Something very weird is going on and I don't think my DVD Player likes 4x discs. I burned a disc at 4x (using DVD Decrypter) and it burned below 2x (the same speed it burned when I chose 8x) but the difference is that the 4x burned doesn't work on my DVD Player but the one burned at 8x does (even though they both burned at the same varying speed). I guess my DVD Player doesn't like 4x burns? What the heck is going on :S.

Regards,
diE

[ricky1756]

on my panasonic dvd player, dvd-r won't play unless i bookmark to dvd-rom

[Denvers Dawgs]

I didn't know that you could book mark a -r disc to read as a rom, thought that was only possibe with +r media?

[diE]

Hi,
Bought a LG LDA-530 from Future Shop for $69.99 (it was on sale) and it's a very nice DVD Player, plays everything I throw at it and I didn't even know that it played PAL DVD's as well (Future Shop didn't mention that). I guess I got a very good deal on a very nice DVD Player, seems it supports XviD and DivX playback as well, can do different Aspect Ratio's etc. I'm loving it!

Regards,
diE