error message with nero

[lordmajax]

I was trying to burn a couple of vids I had lying around on my pc. When I got to the screen to burn, I got a message about some of my vid clips being in PAL format and not NTSC. It asked me if I would like to burn all the videos in PAL format. I tried both yes and no and both times I get the following error message:

Unable to create the disc structure
Burn Process Failed!


Any help on what steps I can take to set this right? I don't know how to find out which vids are in PAL format. Any help there?

[Stormin Norman]

Found this here: https://www.videohelp.com/dvd

PAL

Video:
Up to 9.8 Mbps* (9800 kbps*) MPEG2 video
Up to 1.856 Mbps (1856 kbps) MPEG1 video
720 x 576 pixels MPEG2 (Called Full-D1)
704 x 576 pixels MPEG2
352 x 576 pixels MPEG2 (Called Half-D1, same as the CVD Standard)
352 x 288 pixels MPEG2
352 x 288 pixels MPEG1 (Same as the VCD Standard)
25 fps*
16:9 Anamorphic (only supported by 720x576)

Audio:
48000 Hz
32 - 1536 kbps
Up to 8 audio tracks containing Dolby Digital, DTS, PCM(uncompressed audio), MPEG-1 Layer2. One audio track must have MPEG-1, DD or PCM Audio.

Extras:
Motion menus, still pictures, up to 32 selectable subtitles, seamless branching for multiple storylines, 9 camera angles. And also additional DVD-ROM / data files that only can be read by computer DVD drives.

Total:
Total bitrate including video, audio and subs can be max 10.08 Mbps (10080 kbps)


* Mbps = million bits per second
* kbps = thousand bits per second
* fps = frames per second

For more technical DVD-Video details read the DVDDemystified DVD FAQ section 3.4 or the mpeg.org DVD Technical Notes.

NTSC (NTSC Film)

Video:
Up to 9.8 Mbps* (9800 kbps*) MPEG2 video
Up to 1.856 Mbps (1856 kbps) MPEG1 video
720 x 480 pixels MPEG2 (Called Full-D1)
704 x 480 pixels MPEG2
352 x 480 pixels MPEG2 (Called Half-D1, same as the CVD Standard)
352 x 240 pixels MPEG2
352 x 240 pixels MPEG1 (Same as the VCD Standard)
29,97 fps*
23,976 fps with 3:2 pulldown = 29,97 playback fps (NTSC Film, this is only supported by MPEG2 video)
16:9 Anamorphic (only supported by 720x480)


Audio:
48000 Hz
32 - 1536 kbps
Up to 8 audio tracks containing DD (Dolby Digital/AC3), DTS, PCM(uncompressed audio), MPEG-1 Layer2. One audio track must have DD or PCM Audio.

Extras:
Motion menus, still pictures, up to 32 selectable subtitles, seamless branching for multiple storylines, 9 camera angles. And also additional DVD-ROM / data files that only can be read by computer DVD drives.

Total:
Total bitrate including video, audio and subs can be max 10.08 Mbps (10080 kbps)


* Mbps = million bits per second
* kbps = thousand bits per second
* fps = frames per second

For more technical DVD-Video details read the DVDDemystified DVD FAQ section 3.4 or the mpeg.org DVD Technical Notes.

[lordmajax]

Why won't Nero let me burn the vid clips on dvd-r?

[jimmalenko]

https://www.videohelp.com/play.htm#identify

Use GSpot or AVICodec to examine your sources. If its 25fps then it's more than likely PAL.

[lordmajax]

I have two additional question. 1. Is the error message I am receiving related to the pal video format. 2. Is there a way I can switch the format of the video clip. I got them off of Emule.

[lordmajax]

I went ahead and just deleted the files. I think it sucks that I can't convert a avi file from pal to ntsc format.

[jimmalenko]

I went ahead and just deleted the files. I think it sucks that I can't convert a avi file from pal to ntsc format.

Of course you can:

https://www.videohelp.com/convert#4;41

[lordmajax]

Thank you for the help. I appreciate that link.

[lordmajax]

I'm still a little confused. My vids are in mpg or wmv format. How can I find out if they're in PAL format? I don't know which one is which. Then, which is the quickest way to convert pal to ntsc so that nero will properly burn it? Thanks for any help.

[mats.hogberg]

Are you trying to create a Video DVD or something? If so, I'd recomment getting your sources in DVD compliant mpg format before letting Nero take a look at them (if you have to use Nero at all for creating DVD).
If DVD creation was as easy as "take any video file, drop it on Nero, click on Burn" this site woud never had been

/Mats

[jimmalenko]

If DVD creation was as easy as "take any video file, drop it on Nero, click on Burn" this site woud never had been

It isn't ?

[lordmajax]

okay I identified wich video clips are pal using avicodec. I finally realized that gspot only works with avi files. Duh, now I'm going to try and convert to ntsc. Anyone have a favorite program they use for this process?

[jimmalenko]

I finally realized that gspot only works with avi files.

The latest beta (2.52) works fine with MPEG files as well.

[lordmajax]

I'm looking to just burn the video files o a dvd-rw, not as a svcd

[lordmajax]

oh, I gotta update it then. So, the only converting option that I see is the tmpeg/DGpulldown

[lordmajax]

Okay, I'm confused now. I don't know why I need to use tmpgeng before I use dppulldown? A little help would be greatly appreciated.

[jimmalenko]

Okay, I'm confused now. I don't know why I need to use tmpgeng before I use dppulldown? A little help would be greatly appreciated.

You need to re-encode your files firstly to MPEG-1 or MPEG-2 and secondly to an NTSC DVD-compliant resolution.

[lordmajax]

okay, I used avicodec and it says File : 198 MB (194 MB), duration: 0:19:50, type: MPG, 1 audio stream(s), quality: 48 %
Video : 163 MB, 1150 Kbps, 25.0 fps, 352*288 (4:3), MPG1 = MPEG 1 (VCD), Supported
Audio : 31 MB, 224 Kbps, 44100 Hz, 2 channels, 0x51 = Mpeg-1 audio Layer 2 [0xc0], Supported

so this would mean that I do not need to encode it, right? Okay, if so, then I just need to change the file from pal to ntsc.

[jimmalenko]

That's PAL VCD.

You must re-encode it to change the frame size from 352 x 288 to 352 x 240, but leave the frame rate at 25 fps.


I might add:
I read that guide for the very first time 5 minutes ago. Follow the instructions

[lordmajax]

okay and then use dgpulldown, right? I tried without using tmpeng and it said something about the file needing to be an elementary stream and not a program stream. Sorry, I'm not as inept at this then most people I guess.

[jimmalenko]

okay and then use dgpulldown, right? I tried without using tmpeng and it said something about the file needing to be an elementary stream and not a program stream. Sorry, I'm not as inept at this then most people I guess.

You just "chose" not to do the TMPGEnc step ?

Guides are written the way they are for a very good reason - why put a redundant step into a guide ?


Read the guide. FOLLOW IT WORD FOR WORD.

[MysticE]

okay I identified wich video clips are pal using avicodec. I finally realized that gspot only works with avi files. Duh, now I'm going to try and convert to ntsc. Anyone have a favorite program they use for this process?

I've used NeroVision many times to convert PAL to NTSC (complete movies) with very good results. I've also combined PAL, NTSC AVI (Dvix, Xvid), VOB's and MPEGs into one project with good results. If it works on your system, (it can be a bit twitchy for some), Nero is one of the most versatile apps out there.

[mats.hogberg]

"Versatile" like a $2 Victorinox Swiss Army Knife replica, for auto repairs.

/Mats