Backing up Dual Layer DVDs

[soneman]

As you might have guessed, I'm new to DVD burning and I've been looking at the sticky threads (as well as searching for some extra info on how to rip, convert and burn onto DVD-R) and I was wondering, is DVD Shrink the only program I need to successfully back up my commercial Dual Layer DVDs?

I'm sure I saw a guide here that said DVD Shrink doesn't create an ISO after re-encoding the original DVD.

So do I need any additional program(s) so that I can burn the ISO with DVD Decrypter? As I don't have Nero.

[mats.hogberg]

No. Shrink does 99.9% of all commercial discs. The rest has to be ripped with DVDFab Decrypter first.


/Mats

[ghoster]

yep need to get a ripper

[delius]

use dvdfab for easy dual layer cpy/burn has easy wizard
express mode to shrink gold mode for direct cpy

[soneman]

So dvdfab decrypter should do everything?

I mean is there like an option to create an ISO after the encoding has completed?

I'd prefer to use DVD Decrypter as my burning program. I can't seem to find any guides for dvdfab decrypter. Can anyone help me out?

[redwudz]

I use only three programs as needed:

DVDShrink, set to use DVDDecrypter to burn. Does +90% of DVD by itself. Shrink will create ISOs using DVD Decrypter automatically and burn. Explained here:

http://www.dvd-guides.com/content/view/16/59/

I use DVDDecrypter to rip a few DVDs that Shrink can't decode. Then use Shrink and burn with Decrypter.

I use DVDFab Decrypter to rip only a very few that DVDDecrypter can't rip. It's only a ripper, no burning. Used for Sony ARccOS encryption. Then Shrink and Decrypter to burn.

[soneman]

Thanks for the help.

I'll download dvdfab decrypter now.

[mats.hogberg]

In case you didn't know: DVDFab decrypter doesn't do one crucial thing (something it has in common with DVDDectypter): It doesn't shrink - it just makes 1:1 (but with CCS and other protections removed) copies of the original. To make a dual layer DVD fit a single layer DVD, you still have to use DVDShrink to remove unwanted material and/or compress the movie.

/Mats

[soneman]

Ok, so now I've got DVDFab Decrypter, DVD Shrink and DVD Decrypter installed on my PC.

I'm now assuming that I should normally use DVD Decrypter to rip, then DVD Shrink to re-encode the original DVD and then burn the resulting ISO with DVD Decrypter.

Otherwise, for newer copy protected Dual Layer DVDs; I should use DVDFab Decrypter to rip.

Is that correct?

[Noahtuck]

[mats.hogberg]

...or skip the DVDFab Decrypter/DVDDecrypter initial ripping, and hit it with DVDShrink rightaway. Like I've said before - works for a vast majority of all DVDs.

/Mats

[soneman]

One question I needed to ask was, how long will it take to re-encode a Dual Layer DVD using DVD Shrink?

My PC has a 2 Ghz processor, 256 Mb of RAM, a 40 Gb Hard drive and 64 Mb graphics.

Or does encoding time depend on the length of the movie?

[redwudz]

Shrink is transcoding. And most all commercial DVDs of any length are dual layer.

But for transcoding or encoding, CPU speed is by far the main factor.

Memory, bus speed, hard drive speed also have some effect, and, of course, the length of the DVD. Also with Shrink if you are using Deep Analysis, that will add some time.

With my system with a 1.8Ghz AMD 64 CPU, it takes about 40 minutes with analysis, main movie only on average. Probably half that or less without analysis.

EDIT: That includes burning, also.

[soneman]

Hmm, 40 minutes sounds pretty fast.

Especially considering how long it usually takes to convert a DVD to VCD/DivX AVI (which takes around 2-3 hours on my PC).

Anyway, thanks for the reply.

[ybeard]

Who said that DVDShrink doesn't create an ISO image of a commercial DVD??? News to me since it has on all of my 30 DVD's that I own. After you select Full Disc and then Open Disc and it analyzes your DVD, set it how you want your compilation shrunk (or not if DVD-5), click Backup. Under Select Backup Target, use the pulldown to select ISO Image File and it will allow you to enter a path for saving your ISO Image file. I then burn with DVD Decrypter.

Thus far, there's very few DVD's that DVDShrink and DVD Decrypter won't do. For the special ones, you'll need other programs such as DVDFab Decrypter or AnyDVD. AnyDVD's somewhat nice in that it's capable of stopping cold the annoying attempted installs of players,etc, that commercial DVD's try to install. It also takes out encryption on the fly. It also, unlike all the others mentioned, isn't a freeware program.

[soneman]

Just wanted to let everyone know that the programs named above have worked wonders.

I can rip, re-encode and burn a commercial dual layer DVD in around 35 minutes. And the burned DVDs play in every DVD player in my house.

Thanks for the help everyone.