DVDs and video redo

[loopyloops]

Hope this is the correct section to post this question. I have a DVD, and I want to extract a couple of clips. Can I convert the video ts file into something I can use with video redo?

[presto]

Inside the Video TS folder are .vob .ifo and .buf files. The .vob files are the video files. You can open them directly with VideoReDo (You might have to change the file type in the drop down box to "all file types" in order to see the .vobs when navigating to them with VideoReDo).

I find it better to first rip the DVD to my hard drive with DVDDycrypter as one big file. In DVD Dycrypter there is a box for how it splits files. Choose "none".

Then use VideoRedo on the large .vob that results.

[Stormin Norman]

Freeware

Demuxing:
VobEdit, Rejig, tmpegenc

Editing:

Cuttermaran, MPEG-VCR, Mpg2Cut2, TMPGEnc

Then reauthor

[loopyloops]

Thanks folks! Re: DVD Decrypter, which mode should I do that in? I did it in ifo mode, and it's acting very strange.

To be more specific - and I just tried in file mode and same issues (though all my settings might not be correct), when trying to move the slider, say, to 44 mins., it jumps back in time at a certain point vnever getting to 44 or it's skip to 1:23, for example, and then it won't play.

[loopyloops]

Freeware

Demuxing:
VobEdit, Rejig, tmpegenc

Editing:

Cuttermaran, MPEG-VCR, Mpg2Cut2, TMPGEnc

Then reauthor

Sorry, but what exactly is demuxing? Would I use those tools to join the vobs just like dvd decrypter?


I have Tmpgenc 3.0 Express - is I use that to copy the DVD to the hdd, will that make it a normal mpeg2?

[loopyloops]

Ok, little update and addition to my question. I used tmpegenc 3 to save the dvd to the hard drive, but it saved it as a .data file. Just for kicks, I renamed it .mpg and it seems to work in video redo. What's up with the .data file?

Seems like it worked - though I have no idea what I'm doing - renaming files and such.

[presto]

To be more specific - and I just tried in file mode and same issues (though all my settings might not be correct), when trying to move the slider, say, to 44 mins., it jumps back in time at a certain point vnever getting to 44 or it's skip to 1:23, for example, and then it won't play.

This is pretty confusing. When you try to move what slider? (If I had to guess I would say that you ripped with DVDDecrypter and then used VideoRedo on the result and got this problem)

It's probably best to keep things as simple as possible. Just use VideoRedo on the .vobs on the disk. The only reason I mentioned DVDDecrypter was to get one big .vob instead of possibly having several. Yes, I was talking about file mode.

Demuxing is separting the video from the audio. Then you have to remux and put them back togethor later. I don't see any reason to do that. It's standard operating procedure for some people because you presumably get more accurate results by handling video and audio one at a time. I say don't bother unless you're having audio sync problems after editing.

Ok, little update and addition to my question. I used tmpegenc 3 to save the dvd to the hard drive, but it saved it as a .data file. Just for kicks, I renamed it .mpg and it seems to work in video redo. What's up with the .data file?

I don't know but this is a completely unnecessary step. It sounds like you are re-encoding the video which is very very bad. (You lose a tremendous amount of quality). I think you had tmpgenc re-encode your video to put on a video CD because I am pretty sure they use .data files.

[loopyloops]

Doesn't seem like it reincoded it - stayed the same size - just enabled me to rename and turn into normal mpeg2 someow.

And yes, that's what happened - the dvd decrypter file was messy to deal with.

[presto]

Doesn't seem like it reincoded it - stayed the same size - just enabled me to rename and turn into normal mpeg2 someow

Yeah but you can do the same thing by renaming the original .vob so this step is still a complete waste of time. In either case you don't have a regular mpg you have an mpg with extra information that may or may not cause trouble down the road.

You must not be dealing with a regular hollywood video because it sound like it is not encrypted. If the DVD was encrypted tmpgenc could not have dealt with it. That's why you usually need something like DVDDecrypter.

So what happens when you simply use VideoRedo on the .vob files that are on the DVD? That is what VideoReDo does well. I'm not sure why things are getting so complicated here. The only catch is that depending on your computer it is not always possible to do this directly off the DVD. But since your DVD isn't encrypted you just copy the .vobs onto your hard drive like you would copy any other file and then use VideoReDo.

[loopyloops]

Ok, now that I have the 4 clips I need - 4 mpeg2 files - how can I put'm on a watchable DVD? Will nero recode work with that. I tried that but all it did was put 4 mpeg4s on a dvd.\

edit - I can do this with nerovision express, but I'd like the 4 clips to be on - how to do that?

[loopyloops]

Doesn't seem like it reincoded it - stayed the same size - just enabled me to rename and turn into normal mpeg2 someow

Yeah but you can do the same thing by renaming the original .vob so this step is still a complete waste of time. In either case you don't have a regular mpg you have an mpg with extra information that may or may not cause trouble down the road.

You must not be dealing with a regular hollywood video because it sound like it is not encrypted. If the DVD was encrypted tmpgenc could not have dealt with it. That's why you usually need something like DVDDecrypter.

So what happens when you simply use VideoRedo on the .vob files that are on the DVD? That is what VideoReDo does well. I'm not sure why things are getting so complicated here. The only catch is that depending on your computer it is not always possible to do this directly off the DVD. But since your DVD isn't encrypted you just copy the .vobs onto your hard drive like you would copy any other file and then use VideoReDo.

Thanks for all your help - getting complicated 'cause I'm in over my head! Yup, not a hollywood DVD. A DVD of a band I work with playing on the G4 network and I'm extracting the parts they're in - bumpers, when they play, etc.

I'll try the .vobs in video redo. I guess you're saying since I'm extracting clips I need no join the .vobs?

[presto]

If you need to join anything just do it in VideoReDo.

When you have your clips and are ready to make a DVD you need a DVD Authoring program:

Nero Vision Express: I haven't heard a lot of good things about this program.

Tmpgenc DVD Author (Now renamed to Tsunami DVD Author, I think) - This is a great program which strikes just the right balance between easy of use and powerful authoring. As far as I know you can get the free trial and use it with no restrictions for 30 days. Well worth buying. Don't confuse it with Tmpgenc, they are different products from the same company.

[loopyloops]

If you need to join anything just do it in VideoReDo.

When you have your clips and are ready to make a DVD you need a DVD Authoring program:

Nero Vision Express: I haven't heard a lot of good things about this program.

Tmpgenc DVD Author (Now renamed to Tsunami DVD Author, I think) - This is a great program which strikes just the right balance between easy of use and powerful authoring. As far as I know you can get the free trial and use it with no restrictions for 30 days. Well worth buying. Don't confuse it with Tmpgenc, they are different products from the same company.

Thanks - the joining was a breeze!! Nero's fine - except for the goofy templates.

[kkant]

If you need to join anything just do it in VideoReDo.

This works fine in general, except in the case of VOBs from DVDs. The VOBs on DVDs are split at exact 1GB boundaries, not at MPEG structure boundaries. So the very end of the first VOB and the very beginning of the second VOB are gibberish as far as Videoredo is concerned. When you join them, you may get a glitch at the join point, and your video/audio may get de-synched.

Loopyloops-- The best way to do this is to use DVDdecrypter to extract the DVD in IFO mode. In the IFO options screen, select "None" for File Splitting. Also in the IFO options screen, DE-select "Patch M2V timecode".

Now you'll have a single VOB file. In videoredo, select Tools->Quickstream Fix. Select your ripped VOB as the source, and a new file name for the destination. Now you'll have a "fixed" VOB file. Use Videoredo as you normally would to extract clips from this fixed VOB.

The advantage of this is that if you want a clip that crosses a 1GB VOB boundary on the DVD, you'll still be able to cleanly extract the clip.