final product different than the PROJECT!!!

[clothesburner626]

I'm going to trip if someone here has the answer. I've done everything I know to do.

In Adobe Premiere 1.5, I assembled a commercial using Adobe Premiere Titler and various J-PEGS.

Once I had everything like I wanted, I exported to my hard drive as an .avi file.

Then, I opened Nero Vision Express to burn to DVD. (I use Nero Vision Express to burn to DVD - I let it choose the quality and have never had any problems whatsoever.)

When I previewed in Nero Vision Express, something was different - it was dropping scenes. I noticed in Adobe Audition while I was assembling the music, it was dropping scenes, too, but assumed it was just a fluke. I now realize Nero Vision Express is dropping the same scenes as Adobe Audition.

But here's the catch - it plays fine in Adobe Premiere 1.5 AND on Windows Media Player. As a matter of fact, I was able to encode the .avi file down to a WMV file and it played perfectly fine that way, too.

So I don't know what to do.....

How can it play fine on Windows Media Player and Adobe Premiere 1.5 but not Nero Vision Express or Adobe Audition?

I burnt the DVD anyway and it looked the same way it did in the preview - WRONG!!!!

Any ideas?

Thanks!

[Baldrick]

try encode with something else,
https://www.videohelp.com/tools?s=35#35
https://www.videohelp.com/tools?s=40#40

Nerovision express is not the best(be sure to use latest version if you really want to use it).

what video and audio codec are you exporting to in premiere?

[Forum Troll]

Maybe try using a different encoder like CCE or TMPGENC and see if that makes a difference?

[clothesburner626]

try encode with something else,
https://www.videohelp.com/tools?s=35#35
https://www.videohelp.com/tools?s=40#40

Nerovision express is not the best(be sure to use latest version if you really want to use it).

what video and audio codec are you exporting to in premiere?

That doesn't explain why it doesn't play correctly in Adobe Audition. When I open in Adobe Audition as an .avi file, it drops the same lines Nero drops while trying to encode.

All of the "wording" was created using Adobe Premiere Title Designer. If the words are still, they are created as a still image. If the words are rolling, the are created as video files. This project was a mix of still and rolling text - my point is that I've not changed any settings - three months ago I assembled 5 minutes of footage using nothing but Adobe Premiere titler and it went to DVD just fine using Nero Vision Express to encode and burn.

thanks for your reply.

[clothesburner626]

Maybe try using a different encoder like CCE or TMPGENC and see if that makes a difference?

Again, I don't think it's the encoder. Adobe Audition drops lines when the file is still in .avi format.

Thanks!

[clothesburner626]

Letter to Stephen Gotz:

Using Adobe Premiere 1.5 Title Designer, I assembled the following using the font
Lithos Pro Black 94:

"Interested in having your next show filmed?

"Let me do it!

"Single cam production of your next show, fully edited with chapters for just
$375.

"Call 919.529.XXXX TODAY!!!"

When I play back on Adobe Premiere, it plays back exactly how I have it arranged.

When I export to movie and open it with Windows Media Player, it plays there, too,
exactly as I have it.

However when I open it in Adobe Audition 1.5, the line "Let me do it!"
gets dropped. Worse yet, when I burn to DVD, the line "Let me do it"
gets dropped.

Nero Vision Express has a window that allows you to view your movie before burning
to DVD. It is dropping the same footage as Adobe Audition - the line "Let
me do it!" - and that is what is going to DVD although the .avi file clearly
contains the line when played through Premiere or Windows Media Player.

Any idea what might be the matter?

I once assembled a five minute video using Adobe Premiere 1.5 title designer. I
crawled, I rolled, I used just about every effect I could get my hands on and it
went to DVD just fine.

Hope we can get this situation remedied. Thank you so much for your time.

[greymalkin]

do i get a refund for dropped frames? :P

[clothesburner626]

do i get a refund for dropped frames? :P

It's not dropped frames, fuckhead, the .avi is identical to the Premiere project.

You are in breach of the forum rules and are being issued with a formal warning.
/ Moderator lordsmurf

[clothesburner626]

do i get a refund for dropped frames? :P

It's not dropped frames, fuckhead, the .avi is identical to the Premiere project.

OOps! You were right.... I used Premiere to check the properties of the resulting AVI file. It said, "This movie appears to have dropped frames."

But how?

Please accept my apology, I'm quite frustrated.

[Nelson37]

Double check all frames are same resolution, especially the missing ones and those just before and after.

Check frame rate.

Are the missing frames just before or after a change from still image to moving image? Is there anything at all unique about this region of the video?

Can you re-encode the correct WMV to MPG? Not a complete solution, but may help pinpoint the answer.

PC video playback not sensitive to many things that DVD MPG would be.

Load the AVI in vdub, step through frame by frame. Any abnormalities around the problem area? I suggest Vdub as it is a very simple AVI editor, not likely to introduce any playback abnormalities, nor to mask any existing ones.

I have used Media Studio Pro for similar function, got some strange effects with JPG files which needed resize.

Workaround - create Single AVI file first, making sure to get correct resize. Then add text. OR, eliminate text altogether, create file with images only and check for lost frames.

Isolate and Identify.

[edDV]

I'm going to trip if someone here has the answer. I've done everything I know to do.

In Adobe Premiere 1.5, I assembled a commercial using Adobe Premiere Titler and various J-PEGS.

Once I had everything like I wanted, I exported to my hard drive as an .avi file.

Then, I opened Nero Vision Express to burn to DVD. (I use Nero Vision Express to burn to DVD - I let it choose the quality and have never had any problems whatsoever.)

When I previewed in Nero Vision Express, something was different - it was dropping scenes. I noticed in Adobe Audition while I was assembling the music, it was dropping scenes, too, but assumed it was just a fluke. I now realize Nero Vision Express is dropping the same scenes as Adobe Audition.

But here's the catch - it plays fine in Adobe Premiere 1.5 AND on Windows Media Player. As a matter of fact, I was able to encode the .avi file down to a WMV file and it played perfectly fine that way, too.

So I don't know what to do.....

How can it play fine on Windows Media Player and Adobe Premiere 1.5 but not Nero Vision Express or Adobe Audition?

I burnt the DVD anyway and it looked the same way it did in the preview - WRONG!!!!

Any ideas?

Thanks!

OK something is weird with the AVI maybe?

Did you try to use Premiere Pro's direct DVD timeline output using the internal Mainconcept encoder? Did that have similar problems?

[clothesburner626]

In Premiere, using just Title Designer, I create 7 or 8 titles and insert them into the timeline window

I export to movie

The movie automatically loads into the project

I right click and hit properites

It tells me my movie appears to have dropped frames.

How can something created with Adobe Titler drop frames? I've uninstalled, reinstalled, run the repair.... nothing corrects the problem.

I checked properties on all of the files prior to this week... they all check out fine. Only the files I've worked on this week report dropped frames, the baffling part is that I've not changed any settings or anything, I'm doing things now the same way I've always done.... about to reinstall Windows and start over.

[lordsmurf]

Calm down and don't attack others.

[edDV]

Beats me,

Try these forums
http://www.dmnforums.com/cgi-bin/displaywwugindex.fcgi?forum=adobe_premiere
http://www.tek-tips.com/threadminder.cfm?pid=230
http://forums.creativecow.net/cgi-bin/new_view_posts.cgi?forumid=3

[clothesburner626]

OKay, found the problem.

There's a button in Adobe Premiere 1.5 called, "Optimize Stills."

If within the project there are still images that are two seconds or less in duration, Adobe Premiere - when optimize stills is activated - writes two one second frames as opposed to sixty. (Timecode = 29.97 frames per second; 2 seconds = 60 frames.)

For some people, this causes problems - I am one of those people.

There were two segments within my project with still images less than two seconds >> Optimize Stills was activated >> the resulting .avi dropped frames.

Once I de-selected optimize stills, the .avi exported no problem.

Why didn't I have this problem before? This was the first time I ever had still images in a project that were less than two seconds.

Thanks for all of your help.

[Nelson37]

Scanning the avi in vdub as I suggested would have shown this error, which surrounds 2 still sections which were unusual in that they were shorter than normal.