640 x 272 Divx to 480x480 SVCD? Please Help

[mdisalvo]

Which is the best way to do this? I'm using Virtual Dub, and frame serve it to Tmpeg. But all the people of the movie (The Patriot) is laarge and taaalll!
Do I have to resize it from Virtual Dub or directly in Tmpeg?

Thank you!!

[Betamax]

TMPGenc will do the resizing for you, as long you selected a template (SVCD or VCD) or you have set the correct size of output.

But keep in mind, your output will be of bad quality.
272 (height) has to be enlarged to 480, which will give worse quality (a tv isn't the same as your monitor!).

To get best quality, it's best to rent DVD at your local video-rent store and rip the DVD's yourself (then save the avi NOT to DivX but to some other codec, best is PIC-MjPEG -> files are not too large and quality is very high).

[suspect]

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On 2001-07-22 15:14:16, Betamax wrote:
TMPGenc will do the resizing for you, as long you selected a template (SVCD or VCD) or you have set the correct size of output.

But keep in mind, your output will be of bad quality.
272 (height) has to be enlarged to 480, which will give worse quality (a tv isn't the same as your monitor!).
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When you do that you either need to set the output to 16:9 or you need to add letterboxing bars. To add letter boxing bars you need to convert it to 4:3. So he needs add bars to make it 640x480 then convert it to 480x480. Tmpeg can do all that on the fly. Go to settings,advanced, video arrange method, pulldown to Center custom size, type in 640x272 in there. then you can encode as if it was a 4:3 avi (because tmpg will add the black bars for you). The DVD will yield better quality, but this will also work. Adding the bars may give you better quality because otherwise the 272 is being stretched to 480 by tmpeg and then squished back to 272 by the dvd player (which probably won't look as good).

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[homerpez]

I would think that if you open it up in TMPGEnc, set source aspect 1:1, and pick "Full screen Center" (?) That it should place the resized video in the center of your 4:3 frame, and it will put the black bars in automatically. Really this should be no different from what it does with a DVD-source video, like a 16:9 aspect (it just resizes by width, and makes black bars to fill the space)...

But try it out and see just to make sure...

[Stinky]

what homerpez said is the prefered method form DivX to VCD in TMPGEnc.

source is 1:1 and output as 4:3 "Full Screen Keep Aspect Ratio" ...

best for DivX

but not 100% for ripped DVD's -- you can't convert a 16:9 DVD with those settings.... well you can - it will just look like crap

[suspect]

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On 2001-07-23 06:39:45, homerpez wrote:
I would think that if you open it up in TMPGEnc, set source aspect 1:1, and pick "Full screen Center" (?) That it should place the resized video in the center of your 4:3 frame, and it will put the black bars in automatically. Really this should be no different from what it does with a DVD-source video, like a 16:9 aspect (it just resizes by width, and makes black bars to fill the space)...

But try it out and see just to make sure...
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yeah thats what i said . . . yesterday.

[homerpez]

Sometimes a good thing bears repeating!

[mdisalvo]

Thank you guys. I also asume that 272 of height is really small.

[homerpez]

Not really, when you think about it...

See, on a VCD, or SVCD, your 16:9 (or whatever widescreen) picture gets plastered on the 4:3 resolution, with black bars on the top and bottom...

Some widescreen movies are VERY skinny-looking (they use 16:9 but still even have some black bar material INSIDE the visible frame)!

Imagine it like if you were working wth 640x480 resolution. You have a picture going the full res in width, and you're going to have your black bars taking off 100 or so pizels from the top, 100 or so from the bottom, since this is what widescreen looks like at 4:3.

480 - 200 = 280. Darn close to 272.

So don't worry! So long as it looks right...

[mdisalvo]

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On 2001-07-23 21:45:39, homerpez wrote:
Not really, when you think about it...

See, on a VCD, or SVCD, your 16:9 (or whatever widescreen) picture gets plastered on the 4:3 resolution, with black bars on the top and bottom...

Some widescreen movies are VERY skinny-looking (they use 16:9 but still even have some black bar material INSIDE the visible frame)!

Imagine it like if you were working wth 640x480 resolution. You have a picture going the full res in width, and you're going to have your black bars taking off 100 or so pizels from the top, 100 or so from the bottom, since this is what widescreen looks like at 4:3.

480 - 200 = 280. Darn close to 272.

So don't worry! So long as it looks right...
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That's true. I'm finishing burning with Nero. I will tell you how it was. Thank you homerpez for your time

[homerpez]

No problem. Actually I might have some questions for you on converting from DivX (I gave up on this a while backj due to troubles using audio)... I'll jump off that bridge when I come to it...

[mdisalvo]

Whenever you want. I'm not really an expert but If I can help, let me know.

Bye and thanks again