Supermediastore Taiyo Yuden 4X DVD-R $25 for 100

[Yankee666666]

http://www.supermediastore.com/taiyo-yuden-4x-dvd-r-media-silver-matte-spindles-100.ht...dvdactive50517

Media Code: TYG01

Is this a good deal?

[lordsmurf]

Yes.

[trhouse]

Mine just arrived.

[samijubal]

If you're lucky you might get G02 8x discs.

[hexxisoft]

ive burned a few hundred in the last few months. no bad burns. at all. i love them.

[soundforbjt]

If you're lucky you might get G02 8x discs.

I did get G02's from Shop4tech and the burn @ 16x in my BenQ 1620 and playback fine in my 2 stand-alones.

[kefirgirl]

I have a pioneer 108. Can I burn these disks at 8x?

[Bodyslide]

Yes the last batch I have will burn at 8X on the 108.

[jarvis1781]

even the tyg01 burn at 8x on my plextor 716

[NiteLite]

Is this a good deal?

If you dont mind a lesser quality TY disc. If you want better pay the extra $15 at Rima for the 100 8X spindle.
Scans I've seen with some of these "value" discs are bad even at 4X. I would hate to see them at 8X writes. (not a scan freak)
My batch were really scuffed up bad and looked like they were bounced around in the UPS truck for the week they were in route.
As you can see others have had better luck.
I still wonder how all these 4X are still showing up by the millions after TY supposedly stopped making them last year. (?)
I also dont think they are equal to the original TY 4X.
Just my opinion.

[lordsmurf]

My batch were really scuffed up bad and looked like they were bounced around in the UPS truck for the week they were in route.

This is a problem with buying discs in those shrink wrap packs instead of spindles. You often have to throw away several of them.

[NiteLite]

To be totally fair, lordsmurf is correct with his description of my situation. Several of the top discs and several of the bottom discs were throwaways.
Some in the middle were ok. Even though they had really poor scans they appear to play ok on my standalones. (the few I have tried that looked good) Hope they hold the data. But still for serious archiving I would go the extra few bucks for the spindles.
In fact I just bought 200 8X from Rima ($80) with about 175 of these "value" TY-G01's still sitting here.
Good Luck,
NL

[trhouse]

What are you using to get your scans and can you post any?

[samijubal]

I've burned hundreds of these discs and haven't had to throw away any, you must not be very careful getting them out of the shrink wrap. When I was buying Prodiscs on spindles I had to scrap the bottom disc almost every time, sometimes the one on top of it too. These burn fine at 8x, if they don't it's the burner, not the discs. There are 8x NEC scans posted here somewhere from chas0039. https://www.videohelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=257422

[trhouse]

I asked about the scans is because some time ago, there was an interesting thread about the scanning process. It showed that there are doubts about what scanning can really tell you and which scans are of value.

http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:6rPvPAmTHC4J:www.videohelp.com/forum/viewtopic.ph...&hl=en&start=1

[NiteLite]

trhouse...I agree about scans to a point. That's why in my post I stated "not a scan freak."
I use a Lite-on drive with CD Speed to do quality tests.
I know that single PIF spikes can lead to bad tests results but still have a perfectly playable disc. Also I realize the Lite-on being a ROM drive may not produce the quality to achive better results but Nero CD speed doesn't allow my Plextor 716a to be used.
Still of the scans I have done I can see patterns of differences in the value discs versus the ones I get from Rima. And to my other point about TY dropping the 4X last year and still all you want on every web site has not been explained to me yet. It's just my opinion that I dont think these equal the quality of the original TY G01 4X disc.

samijuba, Eveyone here got a good laugh at your suggestion of my "not being be very careful getting them out of the shrink wrap." They think I am obsessive/compulsive about my media care.
I assure you everything I own from 8mm, reel to reel, 8-track, vinyl, cassette, CD, DVD media are all handled with the utmost professional care and storage. The discs were put on spindles left from early buys from Rima.
I got a bad batch of these "value" discs. It happens. But it wont again.
Enjoyed the discussion, guys. I always appreciate any feedback.
NL

[Gen-An]

I'm wondering why you don't use Plextools' Q-check PI/PO function to do quality testing with your 716A?

[samijubal]

samijuba, Eveyone here got a good laugh at your suggestion of my "not being be very careful getting them out of the shrink wrap." They think I am obsessive/compulsive about my media care.
I assure you everything I own from 8mm, reel to reel, 8-track, vinyl, cassette, CD, DVD media are all handled with the utmost professional care and storage. The discs were put on spindles left from early buys from Rima.
I got a bad batch of these "value" discs. It happens. But it wont again.
Enjoyed the discussion, guys. I always appreciate any feedback.
NL

I've burned about 500 of them and have had a couple of bad discs, not from being shrink wrapped they were defective, far less bad discs than when I was buying discs on spindles. If you had a bad batch all you had to do was send them back, a few dollars media mail, with the price of these discs it still would have been cheaper than buying TY somewhere else.

[NiteLite]

I'm wondering why you don't use Plextools' Q-check PI/PO function to do quality testing with your 716A?

Good Point. I just haven't got around to installing it yet. Also I haven't found any features that I really need w/ PTools. AS and PR are on by default. And Speed Read can be done w/ the eject button. I agree the scans should look better using it.

samijubal...If you had a bad batch all you had to do was send them back, a few dollars media mail, with the price of these discs it still would have been cheaper than buying TY somewhere else.

That's my point I dont want cheaper price or quality. I'd rather apply the money to the 8X TYs from Rima. The cost of shipping 200 from one coast to another is not cheap either.
But to the original poster I still say (in my humble opinion) if you want discs for serious long term storage and better quality go for the non-value TYs. $15 more per hundred with confidence is a good deal to me.
Cheers everyone.
NL

[samijubal]

Media mail costs the same no matter where you send it, it is billed by weight alone, not destination.

[trhouse]

NiteLite,

Here is the explanation about where the TY X4, dvd-r's are coming from. I talked to TY regional headquarters in Illinois this morning. They said one of their biggest distributors is Microboards ( link below ),

http://www.microboards.com/new/

I talked to Jim at Microboards and he said he sells the TY, lacquer finish, dvd-r, X4's to Supermediastore. He says they are genuine and that you are correct, they have been discontinued but there is a lot in the pipeline.

[Redd]

Is this a good deal?

If you dont mind a lesser quality TY disc. If you want better pay the extra $15 at Rima for the 100 8X spindle.
Scans I've seen with some of these "value" discs are bad even at 4X. I would hate to see them at 8X writes. (not a scan freak)
My batch were really scuffed up bad and looked like they were bounced around in the UPS truck for the week they were in route.
As you can see others have had better luck.
I still wonder how all these 4X are still showing up by the millions after TY supposedly stopped making them last year. (?)
I also dont think they are equal to the original TY 4X.
Just my opinion.

Funny. Digital FAQ gives the Taiyo Yuden TYG01 a 1st Class Media Rating.

Quote from Super Media Store

Taiyo Yuden 4X DVD-R media Silver Shiny in Tape Wrap 100 pack
Ratings:
Product Code: DVD01X0238-100
Manufacturer: Taiyo Yuden - Made In Japan
Media ID: TYG01

[NiteLite]

NiteLite,

Here is the explanation about where the TY X4, dvd-r's are coming from. I talked to TY regional headquarters in Illinois this morning. They said one of their biggest distributors is Microboards ( link below ),

http://www.microboards.com/new/

I talked to Jim at Microboards and he said he sells the TY, lacquer finish, dvd-r, X4's to Supermediastore. He says they are genuine and that you are correct, they have been discontinued but there is a lot in the pipeline.

trhouse,
Thanks for the info. I couldnt find anything specific on the link but I get your point. That explains supermedia. Right off the top I can think of half dozen more that are selling them too. Wonder where they are coming from. Anyway , it's has to be really adding up to think of all the sites selling thousands and still got all you want. Why would respected places like Rima-com not sell them? Good question. I may call and ask that one.
Thanks again,
NL

EDIT>> for post below.
That was a quick reply
Much appreciation , trhouse.
I'm trying to imagine how big the werehouse was that contained all the G01's last yr. when TY discontinued them. It is kind of funny and I really dont take it seriously. But I have enjoyed the discussion.
NL

[trhouse]

NiteLite,

The link gives their toll free number. You can call and talk to Jim or TY yourself. TY gave me their number. He confirmed what you said about the X4's being no longer made and he did say they will run out.

[NiteLite]

Is this a good deal?

If you dont mind a lesser quality TY disc. If you want better pay the extra $15 at Rima for the 100 8X spindle.
Scans I've seen with some of these "value" discs are bad even at 4X. I would hate to see them at 8X writes. (not a scan freak)
My batch were really scuffed up bad and looked like they were bounced around in the UPS truck for the week they were in route.
As you can see others have had better luck.
I still wonder how all these 4X are still showing up by the millions after TY supposedly stopped making them last year. (?)
I also dont think they are equal to the original TY 4X.
Just my opinion.

Funny. Digital FAQ gives the Taiyo Yuden TYG01 a 1st Class Media Rating.

Quote from Super Media Store

Taiyo Yuden 4X DVD-R media Silver Shiny in Tape Wrap 100 pack
Ratings:
Product Code: DVD01X0238-100
Manufacturer: Taiyo Yuden - Made In Japan
Media ID: TYG01

Even fake TYs can give you a media ID of TYG01 so that really proves nothing. And yes I consider the original TYG01 to be 1st class media. The value packs I dont. The original G01s were discontinued last year. Did TY lie? What these "value" are I'm not sure. But to rank these the same as the original TYG01s...I dont buy it.
I'm not out to prove or disprove anything. It's just my opinion as I have stated over and over.
NL

[AlecWest]

I just finished up my first 100-stack of the SuperMediaStore Taiyo-Yuden 4x DVD-Rs ... and by and large, they performed pretty good. Only 3 coasters out of the entire stack ... and 2 of those may have been my fault. Just ordered another 100-stack for $29 today (plus shipping). And, as long as they keep outperforming other DVDs I used beforehand (and until they're no longer available), I'll keep ordering them:

http://www.supermediastore.com/taiyo-yuden-4x-dvd-r-media-silver-matte-spindles-100.html

If it ain't broke, I won't fix it.

[AlecWest]

I've burned hundreds of these discs and haven't had to throw away any, you must not be very careful getting them out of the shrink wrap.

Good point. Also, it depends on how well they're shrink-wrapped. If it's a loose wrap, that means trouble. Mine was tight on my last order. And fortunately, I had a spare (and empty) 100-size spindle ready. I opened up the shrink-wrapped bundle from the bottom, removed the hole cover, and slid my spindle bar up the hole until it could go no further. Then, I unwrapped the rest of it. And, only had three coasters out of the lot ... 2 possibly my fault ... and all were somewhere in the middle of the stack. Go figure. Since SuperMediaStore says that orders received before noon will be shipped the same day, my new order of them should arrive Monday (2nd-day air).

Just in time, too. I've got a convention coming up and will be videotaping some of the panel events. And, the convention co-chair wants me to burn some of the panel presentations as DVDs for sale after the convention is over. I may have to get a new DVD burner for that, though ... and keep two DVD burners on my machine. A lot of the conventioneers live in PAL country ... so I might make one burner for PAL burns only, keeping the other burner for NTSC burns only.

[Redd]

Is this a good deal?

If you dont mind a lesser quality TY disc. If you want better pay the extra $15 at Rima for the 100 8X spindle.
Scans I've seen with some of these "value" discs are bad even at 4X. I would hate to see them at 8X writes. (not a scan freak)
My batch were really scuffed up bad and looked like they were bounced around in the UPS truck for the week they were in route.
As you can see others have had better luck.
I still wonder how all these 4X are still showing up by the millions after TY supposedly stopped making them last year. (?)
I also dont think they are equal to the original TY 4X.
Just my opinion.

Funny. Digital FAQ gives the Taiyo Yuden TYG01 a 1st Class Media Rating.

Quote from Super Media Store

Taiyo Yuden 4X DVD-R media Silver Shiny in Tape Wrap 100 pack
Ratings:
Product Code: DVD01X0238-100
Manufacturer: Taiyo Yuden - Made In Japan
Media ID: TYG01

Even fake TYs can give you a media ID of TYG01 so that really proves nothing. And yes I consider the original TYG01 to be 1st class media. The value packs I dont. The original G01s were discontinued last year. Did TY lie? What these "value" are I'm not sure. But to rank these the same as the original TYG01s...I dont buy it.
I'm not out to prove or disprove anything. It's just my opinion as I have stated over and over.
NL

Dude, the sky is blue. You better run outside and check.

[NiteLite]

Dude, the sky is blue. You better run outside and check.

Dude, the sky is not blue. The sky is colorless. The reflective colors of the light spectrum give the "illusion" of a blue color. Same with clouds. No color.
.

[AlecWest]

Got my order yesterday. Tight wrap, just as the last one, and the top DVD in the stack is burning right now. I really appreciate their same-day shipping if you order before noon ... and the foam packing, too. Hope these 4x's are still around (and cheap) the next time I need to order.