2 30fps Avis to 1 DVD

[broth]

Hi, I have two "irregular" 30fps ntsc Avi Files that I want to convert to vcd/svcd/anything my dvd player will play (non-divx)...

Do I have to convert to PAL or "regular" NTSC first, so I can do that or can I just start tmpegenc x-press and chose the right output? If so, where do I get those 30 fps templates from??

Thanks a lot for ur help!!

[Richard_G]

There's no point in converting from NTSC to PAL as all European PAL DVD players can play NTSC too. Why are they irregular? NTSC video is actually 29.97fps but often quoted as 30 fps.

[broth]

oh ok. so best thing is to use tmpgenc mvcd 29.97 fps template eh?

[Richard_G]

Don't see why not, the difference in speed is less than 0.1% so you'll never notice it. You may find that the files aren't irregular at all, just being wrongly described.

[junkmalle]

Yes, TMPGEnc will drop 1 frame out of every 1001 to convert from 30.00 fps to 29.97 fps.

[broth]

and u'd recommend the mvcd template (quality wise)?

[junkmalle]

Depends on how good your source is, how good you want your result to be, and how much you want to put on a disk.

[broth]

my source is dvd-like....It's 1.4gig total and I want it to fit a dvd (4gig).

[darkskies]

Why dont u just go with the DVD Ntsc template thats what i always use i set the CBR to about 70-75, and if the output file happens to go over 4 gig just use dvd shrink good luck buddy

p.s. thnx noah u are da man things work great

[broth]

yes, i think I get what you are saying. But for that, I could also use winavi, couldn't I? The problem is, I have 2 (two) avi files. and if every of those two files get 4gig big, I have to burn it on 2 DVDs, dont I

[darkskies]

I tried using programs like winavi and dvix2dvd and the results for ME were horrible, i had jerky playback and sync issues, so I just stuck with tmpg, however the avi files i converted to dvd ntsc were xvid. 700 mb avi file came out to about 1+gig depending on how high i set the cbr setting. if you have 2 avi files i usually use DIKO here is the guide i go by when i use diko
https://www.videohelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=263309

I use the DVD Ntsc template

[broth]

i wil do that too that way....could you tell me what template you used for that? I dont mind if the files together are a little smaller than 4 gig

[broth]

mmhm, wow....

I just chose DVD NTSC and it worked fine for 6 hours on my p4 3.06ghz but then it said "wrong file input".....

that didnt do any good...can somebody help??

[DarrellS]

mmhm, wow....

I just chose DVD NTSC and it worked fine for 6 hours on my p4 3.06ghz but then it said "wrong file input".....

that didnt do any good...can somebody help??

Here's what I would do...

Use VSO DviXToDVD to covert the AVIs to MPEG2. Much faster than TMPGEnc and it automatically converts to the correct ratio and framerate without having to adjust any setting that you might mess up.

I would close VSO and reopen to convert the 2nd AVI so it doesn't put them both in the same folder.

You can either use DVDshrink to to join the VOBs without menus and burn with DVDdecrypter or Use TMPGEnc DVD Author to burn with menus.

Open TDA and choose ADD DVD Video and open the VIDEO_TS folders you created and choose the VOBs. Create Menu and burn with TDA or burn program of choice.

[broth]

wow that sure is a lot of programs I dont have...

cant I just use VSO for each single avi file and then get both files on one dvd without using dvdshirnk to shrink and dvddecrypter to burn

I dont need menus, i just want to get it down by tomorrow evening.

can you help??? Thanks

[DarrellS]

wow that sure is a lot of programs I dont have...

cant I just use VSO for each single avi file and then get both files on one dvd without using dvdshirnk to shrink and dvddecrypter to burn

I dont need menus, i just want to get it down by tomorrow evening.

can you help??? Thanks

If you don't need menus then DVDshrink is the way to go. You stated that you don't know if they will fit on one DVD, well with DVDshrink, they are guaranteed to.

Anyone doing DVD copying needs to have both DVDdecrypter and DVDshrink on their machines.

Open DVDshrink > click Re-Author > Under DVD Browser, select the files you made with VSO DivXToDVD. They will be Main Movie, Title one etc...
Click compression setting to see if they will fit and if not how much it will be compressed to fit on one DVD. Then just click BackUp and it will make an ISO folder and automacally burn with DVDdecrypter.

It's really pretty simple to do. The whole process should take less than two hours (1 1/2 hrs) from VSO conversion to final DVD disk.

[broth]

hey sounds easy

I am doing the divxtodvd convertion right now...

but as the first replier mentioned...nothing is as good as tmpegenc...do you agree with that? is divxtodvd really worse quality in pic and sound? I mean my source is great quality in both ways and I want it to stay that way....

[DarrellS]

hey sounds easy

I am doing the divxtodvd convertion right now...

but as the first replier mentioned...nothing is as good as tmpegenc...do you agree with that? is divxtodvd really worse quality in pic and sound? I mean my source is great quality in both ways and I want it to stay that way....

No, not at all. That is exactly why I tried VSO DivXToDVD. TMPGEnc was so difficult to use, took way too long to convert and wouldn't give me the outcome that I was looking for. Wrong ratios and out of sync files.

I found a guide (which I can't seem to find now) which showed me the VSO method and it worked flawlessly and the finished VOBs played exactly how they should in all my players that handle VOBs. Since I was doing a TV series, I needed the Menus so I was forced to buy the TMPGEnc DVD Author program which is a pretty good program but for menuless DVDs, the DVDshrink method is the ticket. I guess since DVDdecrypter and DVDshrink can be considered copyright infringement tools, the guides have been taken out. I had a weblink for a DVD copy site using only freeware but it was taken off the internet.

[DarrellS]

>>? is divxtodvd really worse quality in pic and sound? I mean my source is great quality in both ways and I want it to stay that way.... <<

Audio is usually better since you're going from 11Mhz/16bit MP3 audio (?) to 48Mhz AC3 DVD compliant audio.

Hopefully, here is a screenshot from the series I converted to DVD using VSO DivXToDVD.

[DarrellS]

edit

[DarrellS]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v473/DarrellS/Clipboard01.jpg

[TBoneit]

Hi, I have two "irregular" 30fps ntsc Avi Files that I want to convert to vcd/svcd/anything my dvd player will play (non-divx)...

Do I have to convert to PAL or "regular" NTSC first, so I can do that or can I just start tmpegenc x-press and chose the right output? If so, where do I get those 30 fps templates from??

Thanks a lot for ur help!!

Why not just use TMPGEnc Xpress? Add the two AVIs, Choose target format let it autosize to fit on one DVD and go.

I use it that way all the time on (30fps) NTSC AVIs.

Example last night I added the two AVIs in set source. Looked at Resolution of source, chose 352 by 480 NTSC Template in the set output tab. Choose Encode tab, select output all clips in one file, set file name and destination and start output. End result 1 29.97 FPS NTSC ready MPEG2. Author in TMPGEnc DVD Author and watch.

For PAL DVDs I do something similar, choose source wizard, and add source from a DVD. Pick DVD NTSC 720 by 480 Template, let Xpress set the bitrate, decide whether I want speed or quality and go.

Then I play the DVD in Power DVD, Screen cap the main menu, position the thumbnail and buttons so it looks ok and author. Three Apps in this case DVD Decrypter, Xpress And DVD Author. for already AVIs, two apps, Xpress and DVD Author.

AC3 plugin.

Why make it complicated when it can be easy and simple. These days I like simple and easy.

Good Luck

[Soopafresh]

DivxtoDVD is Awesome, especially if you are just doing straight file to file encodes. No MPEG2 encoder (that I've found) is faster. And the quality is amazing, considering the performance.

If it would accept AviSynth .AVS files, I doubt I'd use anything else.

[DarrellS]

Why make it complicated when it can be easy and simple. These days I like simple and easy.

VSO DivXToDVD is as simple as it gets.

No templates to worry about.

No settings to set and as mentioned earlier

It doesn't take all day to encode to an MPEG2 file

Oh yeah, the programs you use all cost money. The ones we use are all free.

[DarrellS]

DivxtoDVD is Awesome, especially if you are just doing straight file to file encodes. No MPEG2 encoder (that I've found) is faster. And the quality is amazing, considering the performance.

If it would accept AviSynth .AVS files, I doubt I'd use anything else.

If I knew how to do scripting, I'd probably try to use Avisynth. I hear it's a great program but the most I've done with scripting is set the in and out points with a fade filter in Virtualdub and that was to much work for me.

I use Vdub for most editing but for fades and transitions, I use pay programs that are made for those tasks.

DivXToDVD is an awesome program. It will convert all kinds of video files also, not just DivX.

[broth]

Yes, you guys convinced me. I use DivXtoDVD converter from now on....

I am about to get dvdshrink so I can get the output of both Avis (that are DVD format now) to one single sided DVD....

I will let you know if I am successful!!

[broth]

man, i am getting a lot of problems....

video packet droppd at.....

must be 1000 errors right now

[broth]

ok although there were some errors, i made it. both parts are no Video_TS...

I use dvdshrink 2.3 but can't see where to re-author..when I say "Open DVD" it wants to oven ifo's which there are 2 of each part...What do I do now?


EDIT: After a little updating, trying and following ur guidelines, I was finally successful and the DVD is done. Now I just hope the whole movie is watchable since there were those errors during DivXtoDVD convertion.... Thanks a bunch tho You guys are the best!!!!

[TBoneit]

Why make it complicated when it can be easy and simple. These days I like simple and easy.

VSO DivXToDVD is as simple as it gets.

No templates to worry about.

No settings to set and as mentioned earlier

It doesn't take all day to encode to an MPEG2 file

Oh yeah, the programs you use all cost money. The ones we use are all free.

Yes however I own them, they work, no fiddling around, no problems and the main reason I suggested TMPGEnc Xpress was the implication in the first message "or can I just start tmpegenc x-press and chose the right output" which seems to imply that it is already installed and running.

I tried a lot of these free programs, I'm frugal not cheap, since I'll spend for things that make life easier. A lot of the free programs don't seem to be reliable/solid. Do I use some of them? Yes I use VirtualDub and some others that are indespensible for me. Example to extract programs from my PVR, where there are only free programs. However in my daily computer use I use TMPGEnc Plus, DVD Author, & Xpress. Videoredo. Agent vs free Agent. Norton Internet Security. Spysweeper, Spybot search & Destroy, & Adaware. Nero. Of Course last but not least DVD Decrypter to extract fdrom my DVD recorders +RW DVDs and DVD Shrink


Why because they work reliably and easily.

Cheers

Just from curiousity I downloaded the freebie VSO DivXToDVD, and tried it out.
It works, test output file seemed OK for quality. I didn't find much in the way of settings though. For example I fed it a test avi. 320 by 240 and could not find a way to set the output to 352 by 240. It seems to be only 720 by 480 if force NTSC is selected. This seems a waste of space to resize a 320 by 240 to 720 by 480 with a high bitrate to me since I may want to do file conversions piecemeal and then author all into one DVD.

[DarrellS]

ok although there were some errors, i made it. both parts are no Video_TS...

I use dvdshrink 2.3 but can't see where to re-author..when I say "Open DVD" it wants to oven ifo's which there are 2 of each part...What do I do now?


EDIT: After a little updating, trying and following ur guidelines, I was finally successful and the DVD is done. Now I just hope the whole movie is watchable since there were those errors during DivXtoDVD convertion.... Thanks a bunch tho You guys are the best!!!!

The dropped packet errors are normal. Shouldn't be a problem unless the framerate and audio was really messed up in the original. Movies with VBR audio seem to give the dropped packet errors.

I should've mentioned playing the VOBs with PowerDVD before burning them to DVD, just to make sure they were alright.

I converted a 24 episode TV series and two of the episodes were captured at a different framerate and it took me two weeks to figure out how to fix them and convert to VOBs and burn to DVDs.

I guess I'll have to set down and make a decent guide.

Let us know how they turned out.