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    When i write CD's, i dont burn at anymore than 8x and for DVD's im quite happy burning at 4x.
    So all these new models that are coming out that allow you to burn at higher speeds...whats the point.
    I prefer slower write speeds to prevent any errors.
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    I burn cds at 16x and dvds at 8x max,sometimes when you burn dvds at a lower rate the quality of burn is reduced,with crappy quality dvds then you gotta burn slower but not with good quality dvd.
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    oh deer, been burning ALL CD based stuff at 24X speed for over 3 years now...coz its the max of my TDK Cyclone...now 3 years old and NEVER got a dud due to writing speed.......cost over £100 THREE years back but still going strong....it NEVER fails.

    Burn my DVd's at 4X (4040B LG) and again never got a dud.

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  4. I burn CDs @ 40x & DVDs @ 4x
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    CD's at 48X, DVD at 4X, because that's the speed of the burners. If I wanted to burn at a lower speed, I would have bought slower burners. When I get a 8X or faster DVD burner I will use that speed only.

    Burning at lower speeds, why bother? If it won't burn at the rated speed, there's probably something wrong with your system. Better to fix it than run a burner at a crippled speed. Just my opinion.
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    Ive burned tons of svcd and vcd on 6 different cd burners and have found it best to burn at a lower speeds for best dvd play back with less chances of reading errors but now that i got a dvd burner i burn at the max with good quality dvd+r.
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    For quick and dirty CDs the max speed (48x) for ones that I want to keep 16x.

    For DVD 4x.
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  8. Higher speed DVD burns reduce the lifespan of the disc. I stick to 4X.
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  9. the fastest the drive and media will support. I did make a coaster at work this week, the power blipped on the computer when I bumped the power cable that had worked loose. In other words any coasters I make are generally boo boos on my part.

    I think I had one disk this year that failed during burning. all the ones that complete play back fine. Data disks always verify.

    I did have issues at work burning DVDs and CDs on one machine. I diagnosed it after trying otherthings as a bad mobo. For some reason it would run with out crashing and do everything except burn error free. Changing the Mobo to a different brand and keeping the same CPU, Memory, Drives, Even the same installed WinXP. The only thing I changed was the Mobo. Everything else stayed the same. But now it burns and verifys ok.

    FWIW you can move a WinXp or Win 2000 easily if you do it the right way. Even from AMD and Nforce/VIA/SIS chipset MBs to intel chipset & cpu based.

    Main requirement is that the old system should be running. If it is dead then you need to find a MB with a similar/same chipset.

    I digress. I never burned slower than the drive and media will go.

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  10. Originally Posted by chas0039
    Higher speed DVD burns reduce the lifespan of the disc. I stick to 4X.
    I always suspected tha slower speed burns shorten drive life as it is working a longer time per disk. IMHO
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    If you use good drives and good disc the burn speed doesn't really matter.

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    4x on Ritek Ricoh -+Rs (8x soon as the price becomes temping)
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    I burn everything @ 2x with my Sony. What's the hurry?
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  13. Originally Posted by johns0
    I burn cds at 16x and dvds at 8x max,sometimes when you burn dvds at a lower rate the quality of burn is reduced,with crappy quality dvds then you gotta burn slower but not with good quality dvd.

    i agree with this
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    DVDs at 2X cos my sony wont burn higher than 2X for most 4X disks such as Ritek

    some dvds at 4X (manage to find TDK 4X DVD+R)

    CDs at 24X.
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  15. My Nero will hang up at the burn step if set it too fast. In a test it would stop at 5% tii I slowed to 8x speed burn. Sony cd burner. Pac Digital dvd had same prob, coasters till set at 2/2.4 speed. maybe something i do wrong, but all works well at theses speeds so i just drink more coffee while waiting.
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    A data and music CD, I burn at 24x...Vcd/Svcd no higher than 8x.
    DVD at 2x and 4x.



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  18. CD's max speed of 20X found some players dont like higher speed burns..
    Dvd's either 4X in my old A105 or 8X in my new 108 would try higher speed but media i have wont go there..
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    DVDs - 2x on all my 1x media (2x4all) with no quality issues thus far. 4x on my Memorex.

    CDs - 48x or whatever my current media is. Never had problems with quality on CDs.

    Some people say higher speeds are better for DVD, some say lower. I think that if you invest the money in a faster burner, you might as well burn as fast as you can until you start to experience quality issues. Conversely, if you don't see yourself burning at 8x, don't blow your money on an 8x burner. You'd do better investing in higher quality 4x media or some other upgrade. I'm picking up an LG 4120B soon, and I'll be burning 12x and DL as soon as I can find affordable, quality media. If I start seeing errors early on, I'll back it down some.
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  20. In most cases...

    CD: 12X or 16X
    DVD: 2X
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    CD: 52x
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    Always burn at the maximum speed that your burner supports. CD and DVD recorders were specifically designed to perform optimally at their maximum speed.

    If you burn at less than maximum speed, this will only lead to more heating of the media during the recording process. Unfortunately, if your source is another optical device, or a highly fragmented drive, you *may* have to burn at less than maximum speed.

    Quit wasting your time burning slowly! The verify function of Nero has a purpose - use it!
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    I check the media write Descriptor, if it is able to burn at a highier speed then why not do it?

    I usually buy 4X and push them to 8X and I do get 8X and push to 12X. My 12X burns has lower error count then @ 8X and 4X


    This was a 8X burnt @ 12X
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  24. Ok, LisaB can you tell me why my standalone VCD player cant play 40x CDs burnt at 24x but can play the same CDs burned at 16x? Do you really trust the media specs and writer specs? There are bad media and bad burners out there, the manufacturers should be the last ones to trust. If manufacturers were just a bit honest we wouldnt need videohelps media section, would we? I guess all the shit media like Optodisk and CMC works perfect every time at max speed for you, sad that for most of the users here they dont.
    I also burn at max speed with good media, but i stay at 24x for VCD. 4x Ricoh+R and Optodisk i burn at 2.4x, the verify option is not a way to stop them from being coasters, but lower speed worked every time so far.
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    Originally Posted by TBoneit
    Originally Posted by chas0039
    Higher speed DVD burns reduce the lifespan of the disc. I stick to 4X.
    I always suspected tha slower speed burns shorten drive life as it is working a longer time per disk. IMHO
    That they do, the longer on time for the laser does age it more. But at the same time less burn time per pit means more irregularly shaped pits. Was a real problem for a while in the CD speed growth era until the laser powers caught back up to make ok pits at higher speeds.

    Slower burns make better pits. Faster burns do sometimes turn out better, especially since the drive can have more internal vibration at the lower speeds. But laser powers are good now, and DVD's have much better correction at the level before it even determines bad data. So ragged pits have a much smaller margin to cause problems down the line, I doubt you'll see much difference in different burn speed later DVD death statistics as discs age. Long as the drive does reasonably solid writes at speed they should age roughly as well as slower written discs, but of course no one knows their real long term stats yet either. Except really bad stats for some media off the mark lol..

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    I guess it would all have to do with the strength of the laser burning the disc at whatever speed... Go for the drive that has the highest mW output on the laser diode during burning and you got a match made in heaven. Also good to get media that says it is compatible with whatever speed you are burning at. Don't say they didn't warn you.
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    Sillyname Wrote:

    the strength of the laser burning the disc at whatever speed... Go for the drive that has the highest mW output on the laser diode during burning
    I know with the plextor you can adjust the laser power, I was wondering if any other drive has that option?
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  28. Usually I select Max as my burnspeed so that means CDs at 24x and DVDs at 4x.

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