Terrific Success With DL Burn!!

[Kurupter00]

With the Sony 700A and a Verbatim DL Disc and used with DVD shrink 3.1 it took about an hour to rip and burn the whole thing. It plays without any problems

[Prot]

Have you tried it on a standalone, or is that what you are referring to?

[RottenFoxBreath]

and the fact that layer changes in standalones will more than likely cause problems for a while

[Kurupter00]

Yeah I've played it in 5 standalones and a PS2 and it plays problem free.

[ice-berg]

Did you perform any error checks of the disc after you burned it?

[Kurupter00]

No I Didnt Check It For Errors

[handyguy]

did you watch it all the way through so that you can see how it handles the layer switch around the 4.2 gig point?

How much was the media?

[Gurm]

The only way to get the Verbatim media right now, that I can find, is in a "Dual Layer Solutions Pack", which has ONE DL media (2.4x), 8 +R Media (8x) and one +RW Media (4x)

NOW the question that begs to be asked is why use DVD Shrink at all for a movie that will FIT onto the target media?

- Gurm

[ddlooping]

Maybe the original was a (movie+menus)-only DVD and Kurupter00 wanted to make a movie-only backup.

[RottenFoxBreath]

it sounds like its been shrunk to just a single layer file.
you should only need to rip it and burn it in nero or copytodvd,or another DL capable burning software.

[Gurm]

My point is, there is no need to make a movie-only DVD when you have a dual-layer media!

I've seen precious few dual-layer DVD's that are actually bigger than the 8.5GB DVD+R DL size.

- Gurm

[Shocker Milwaukee]

Why don't you supply us with the title of the DVD you backed up. That would clear some things up for a few posters who've replied.

[ddlooping]

Gurm, when backing-up DVD5s I sometime still do a movie-only version if there is nothing of value to watch but the movie.
It saves me from having to go through the menus, FBI warnings, etc etc.
I just thought Kurupter00 might have used DVD Shrink for the same reason.

[ViRaL1]

Maybe it was a DL flipper. :P

[Gurm]

ddlooping:

I imagine that is possible. However, it seems a bit silly to go to the trouble. It really can't get simpler than ISO->Read, ISO->Write. LOL.

- Gurm

[ddlooping]

Well, I beg to differ.

Using DVD Shrink re-author to make a movie-only backup with "No Compression" should be as simple and almost as fast as ripping with DVD Decrypter (it is in my experience anyway).
If the target is chosen to be an ISO, Decrypter "ISO->Write" would also be the second and last step in the process.
And with DVD Shrink it is also automatic.

[Gurm]

Edit->Select Movie Files
Read

Right-Click, CopyToDvd.

Hmm... that was... three clicks?

But regardless, my point is not that DVD Decrypter is easier than DVD Shrink. It's that I suspect that he did something other than what he thinks he did. If you're TESTING Dual-Layer burning, at TWENTY DOLLARS A BURN, you'd want to make your test as inclusive as possible - replicate a DVD perfectly. In which case Shrink is probably far from the best program for the job, wouldn't you say?

- Gurm

[ddlooping]

Very good point. 8)

I guess we'll only have to wait for Kurupter00 to tell us exactly what he did and why (if he's so inclined).

[hudsonf]

I agree with Gurm. I would like to know the file size on the dvd It might not be a real dl burn.

[Kurupter00]

I dont mean it to come out this way but i am not a dumbass and know what im doing. I burned a DUAL LAYER DVD+R to clearify those who dont want to belive. and yes i used DVD Shrink the program not to shrink but to rip with no compression. I have played the movie all the way through and yes there is a small pause but my standalone player has a slight pause on most dvds that arent single layer. I got the Media in the dual layer solutuions pack i get kind of a deal on them so, i got 3. Any One else want to ask questions? i posted my success thinking maybe people would be happy that DL actually works great, but instead people think im just retarded and maybe those people should actualy know something about the programs they think they know about like thinking dvd shrink can ONLY be used to shrink a dvd. I always use DVD Shrink so I will keep on using it as long as i get great results.

[RAAGAAman]

I have backed up two Movies to DL+R9. The "Matrix" and "LOR Extended Disk1". I used DVDshrink but I did a full disk backup(No compression). I used Sonic 7.0 to write the disk. The drive used was an NEC ND-6100A Slim writer that came in a Dell Laptop. I have tried it in about 5 different DVD players and there was no issue with the Layer Jump.

RG

[888888]

I dont mean it to come out this way but i am not a dumbass and know what im doing. I burned a DUAL LAYER DVD+R to clearify those who dont want to belive. and yes i used DVD Shrink the program not to shrink but to rip with no compression. I have played the movie all the way through and yes there is a small pause but my standalone player has a slight pause on most dvds that arent single layer. I got the Media in the dual layer solutuions pack i get kind of a deal on them so, i got 3. Any One else want to ask questions? i posted my success thinking maybe people would be happy that DL actually works great, but instead people think im just retarded and maybe those people should actualy know something about the programs they think they know about like thinking dvd shrink can ONLY be used to shrink a dvd. I always use DVD Shrink so I will keep on using it as long as i get great results.

It's amazing how quickly people judge. It is pretty silly to think that you would burn a DL DVD with DVD-5 settings. And yet people believed it.

I new perfectly what he meant. DVD Shrink decrypts as well as compresses. I use it on 2GB commerical DVDs and then use it to combine into 4GB DVD. DVD Shrink doesn't just shrink!

[Kurupter00]

Thank You!!

888888 my hat off to you good sir.

[Nilfennasion]

Compelling reasons to use DVDShrink even with DL media:

1) It's free.
2) It's free.
3) It's free.
4) It makes ripping content a simple point-and-click affair.
5) It allows the user to remove copyright messages and other annoying crap that the makers of discs want to force into our eyes.
6) It allows the user to remove prohibitions against switching audio/subtitle tracks on the fly.
7) It lets the user decide whether they want to keep a whole heap of unnecessary dubs and foreign subtitle tracks.

The only thing that DL media eliminates from the process is the need to transcode data in order to burn it.

[Gurm]

Compelling reasons to use DVD Decrypter:

1) It's free.

So is DVD Decrypter.

2) It's free.

Ditto.

3) It's free.

Again...

4) It makes ripping content a simple point-and-click affair.

ISO->Read, ISO->Write

5) It allows the user to remove copyright messages and other annoying crap that the makers of discs want to force into our eyes.

Not seeing anything new here...

6) It allows the user to remove prohibitions against switching audio/subtitle tracks on the fly.

Still waiting for something DVD Decrypter doesn't do...

7) It lets the user decide whether they want to keep a whole heap of unnecessary dubs and foreign subtitle tracks.

NOW we get somewhere... and my point is that with a DL disc, you HARDLY NEED THIS SPACE FOR SOMETHING ELSE, now do you?

The only thing that DL media eliminates from the process is the need to transcode data in order to burn it.

"The process". With DL media it shouldn't BE a "process". It should be a two-click "copy disc"! The amount of work you people are willing to make for yourselves in the name of "keeping it simple" amazes me.

Not to mention that Shrink has no burning capability, which means that it's NOT "free" after all. The original poster burned with Sonic 7.0, a horrible little program (no offense, but the 4.6 version is superior in virtually every way except bloat) that costs a non-trivial amount of money.

Whether it's Nero, CopyToDvd, or whatever, you have to use SOMETHING to burn Shrink's output... which means it is NOT a "simple point and click affair" after all, now is it?

How can you possibly get simpler than doing a full disc copy? ISO->Read, ISO->Write! Or, if you're using AnyDVD, fire up ANY PROGRAM, and hit "Copy DVD".

The one USEFUL piece of information in this thread is that the layer break didn't cause problems when burning with Sonic 7.0 - as DL gets cheaper, we need to make a list of which programs are more or less compatible with standalones in this regard.

- Gurm

[Gurm]

And I do apologize if it seemed like I thought you were stupid. But really, there's such a thing as "the right tool for the right job".

If I came up to you and said "hey, I just achieved excellent results building a computer - I used a steak knife!" you might think I was a bit loony. Point in fact is a steak knife can, in a pinch, double for a screwdriver. It's not what it was intended for, it's not what it does WELL, and it requires more work than you might otherwise need to use, but it CAN be done.

But you might say something like "Why didn't you use a screwdriver? Are you SURE you put it together properly?" because I've said something a bit goofy.

That's all. I didn't mean to imply you were an idiot... just that when you come in saying you've used the wrong tool for the job... people look at you funny, now don't they?

- Gurm

[Kurupter00]

-If you have Nero DVD shrink is that simple. point and click thatsall it takes to rip and burn in, I would say 3 clicks or less. and nero was kind of free cause it came with my burner so i really didnt pay for anything additional.
-I can understand that I should have cleard things up and not just said "success!" however it was very simple (Click 1) "No Compression" (Click 2) "Back-Up" (Click 3) "Ok!"
-A reason I didnt use DVD Decrypter was i used it in the past will poor results but I will try another DL using DVD Decrypter and see how it works. I have 2 DL discs left.
-One thing that i do find very interesting burning this disc, I have another computer that ahs an old dvd-rw drive and old pioneer it was out before + I think, anyway it never read or played any dvd+ disc but it does play the dual layer with no problem.

[LanEvo7]

Decryptor doesn't work well with DL media. It seems to have issues regarding to the layer breaks. Its because it doesn't fully support dl burning. On the market right now, I think Nero is the only software that can burn dl successfully.

If you search the forums, you can read posts about people getting coasters while using Decryptor to burn.

[Roderz]

All I can add to this is that if I use Decryptor (or TDA for that matter) for burning onto a dvd-r, the disc will only play on 2 of my 3 dvd players (+R works fine),

Nero (5.5....) is the ONLY burning program that will give me a disc that plays on all 3 of my standalones for dvd-r,

Not dissing Decryptor (or any other prog) I guess it's just a prob with my burner.

[RottenFoxBreath]

I dont mean it to come out this way but i am not a dumbass and know what im doing. I burned a DUAL LAYER DVD+R to clearify those who dont want to belive. and yes i used DVD Shrink the program not to shrink but to rip with no compression. I have played the movie all the way through and yes there is a small pause but my standalone player has a slight pause on most dvds that arent single layer. I got the Media in the dual layer solutuions pack i get kind of a deal on them so, i got 3. Any One else want to ask questions? i posted my success thinking maybe people would be happy that DL actually works great, but instead people think im just retarded and maybe those people should actualy know something about the programs they think they know about like thinking dvd shrink can ONLY be used to shrink a dvd. I always use DVD Shrink so I will keep on using it as long as i get great results.

well,noone mentioned that you were retarded,you assume that.
and as for you telling us that DL works great,i expect all the dvd writer manufacturers are right now preparing presentations to applaude the success you have had.
and you still never mentioned the title that you used.
but IMO,Gurm is right,DVD Decrypter is the one that is the easiest and best to use.nothing else needed,unless your preference is for using copytodvd,nero6,etc for DL burning.