Terrific Success With DL Burn!!

[leebo]

Wow! DVD Dcryptor allows you to rip and burn a DVD backup w/o FBI warnings, forced-to-watch movie previews, etc.? And still keep all menus functioning?

Where is the tutorial on that?

[Gurm]

It's right in the options... remove PUO's. Pretty standard stuff, really.

Unless you want to REMOVE the FBI warnings, etc. - which Shrink also does NOT do for you. You gotta go bust out IFOEdit or something else more powerful (and a hundred times more complex) to do THAT.

- Gurm

[Denvers Dawgs]

What version of Decrypter are you using, and what are PUO's? How would you delete FBI Warnigs, Previews etc...?

[Gurm]

PUO's are "prohibited user operations". It's what prevents you from skipping the FBI warnings, animations, previews, etc.

As for how you'd remove them - well, it gets tricky. You can't do it with DVD Shrink, either - unless you axe the menus as well and just do a movie-only backup. That was my point.

- Gurm

[stiltman]

Wow! DVD Dcryptor allows you to rip and burn a DVD backup w/o FBI warnings, forced-to-watch movie previews, etc.? And still keep all menus functioning?

Where is the tutorial on that?

Guess I also forgot to check that box too

[Gurm]

EVERYONE STOP WITH THE "SARCASM".

DVD Shrink doesn't let you remove ANYTHING from the movie while keeping the menus, so your attempt at 'wit' just makes you look stupid.

Shrink compresses, and can also let you trim a movie IN MOVIE-ONLY MODE. That's it, that's the limit of what it can do.

It's a fine little transcoder with some basic reauthoring abilities, but THAT'S IT. It's neither easier to use than DVD Decrypter, nor better at what DVD Decrypter does. They're two different prorams, used for two different purposes.

CAN you use Shrink to rip and then reburn a DVD-5? Sure, if you have Nero installed. SHOULD you? Why not - it works. Is it the BEST tool for this? Hell no. DVD Decrypter is a BETTER tool for this.

That's all. Don't go claiming that DVD Shrink has the capability to perform tasks which even the most experienced of us find a bit daunting, such as removing individual cells whilst keeping the rest of the DVD structure intact - because it JUST CAN'T DO THAT.

- Gurm

[Sam Ontario]

They are both great software but I use DVD shrink more than DVD Decrypter. DVD shrink is always more intuitive to use than DVD decrypter. Hence my default will be DVD shrink. DVD decrypter sometimes rip better than DVD shrink. DVD shrink can join two or more movies together which is a very useful feature for me to join my home movies.

A lot of people will not understand how to use DVD decrypter intuitively, i.e. ISO->Read, ISO->Write. If the DVD Decrypter uses 2 button options right after running the software, "Read Disc", "Write DVD", it will then be equally intuitive to DVD shrink. Just my 2 cents.

[Gurm]

If you REALLY need a one-click solution, just join the legions of sheeeeeep and use DVD XCopy.

- Gurm

[MackemX]

interesting read

basically most here won't be amazed at the fact DL works as it does in the right circumstances. Though although it works for some, it doesn't work for others. Tomorrow you could get the same very basic post saying that DL doesn't work

what most people would like to see regarding DL success/failures is a little more information on the whole process and not just whether it works or not as everything in the DVD backup world works from what I have seen

as for the DVDDecrypter vs DVDShrink thing, who gives a toss as long as it works for them though Gurm does point out a few myths regarding DVDShrink . I don't rate my DVD collection enough to back it up as I can't be bothered. If I did make backups then I would do 1:1 just in case the original got destroyed in a fire or whatever other various reasons

p.s.

EVERYONE STOP WITH THE "SARCASM".
........., so your attempt at 'wit' just makes you look stupid.

lol , isn't that what I keep saying all the time and I'm glad someone else is reading the same posts as me

[madmoose]

EVERYONE STOP WITH THE "SARCASM".
........., so your attempt at 'wit' just makes you look stupid.

Who cares if someone likes shrink better then decrypter. In my opinion, it is a great "all in one" (I say all in one because I HAVE NERO, and I think 90% of the people that use shrink also have it) DVD COPY program. And I CANNOT tell the difference in quality between a dvd shrinked disc and a pressed disc, besides the artwork.

Decrypter doesnt allow people to re-author. Therefor you need another app. Therefor DVD Shrink is faster if you need to reauthor or compress.

[tommyoz]

Gurm, don't even waste your time. They're just not getting it.

[Gurm]

Who cares if someone likes shrink better then decrypter.

Nobody. Some people like gatorade better than vodka. That doesn't make them the same thing, or even in the same class of beverages.

In my opinion, it is a great "all in one" (I say all in one because I HAVE NERO, and I think 90% of the people that use shrink also have it) DVD COPY program.

I daresay that a lot of people DO have Nero. And a lot more don't. Judging by the number of idiotic posts on here by people who try to burn their Shrink output with Joe Generic's program that came with their $30 DVD+R from Costco, I'd say most do NOT.

And I CANNOT tell the difference in quality between a dvd shrinked disc and a pressed disc, besides the artwork.

That, my friend, is because YOU ARE BLIND. Your obliviousness to artifacting and macroblocking doesn't change the fabric of space-time. It just makes you blind.

Decrypter doesnt allow people to re-author.

Neither does Shrink, technically. It does very little in the way of "Authoring".

Therefor you need another app.

Therefore 'therefore' has an 'e' on the end.

Therefor DVD Shrink is faster if you need to reauthor or compress.

I would argue with you. I would say that AnyDVD is the "fastest" ripper, since it rips on-the-fly and is better than the ripper included in Shrink.

But hey, you can all be ignorant idiots. Read my damn DVD Shrink Myths thread.

- Gurm

[tim6661234]

Back to the point. It's great you had success with DL, I only wish I could get hold of some media in the UK. At the moment the prices being quoted when it's available are . I guess they will come down once the supply chain fills up.

One question. Did you bit set your +R DL to DVD-ROM?

I've seen other postings that say compatibility is quite good with this setting but not if left as a DL.

Current prices ~ £10 for Verbatim and ~£7 for Ritek.

[MackemX]

prices will come down soon me thinks when more and more take it up , probably quite a few come Christmas

I ain't jumping on the DL boat just yet though and there is also no sign of RW's anywhere either a little birdie told me

[yomomma]

You are comparing apples and oranges.

It probably is "simpler" to do an entire disk ISO copy... but if you are like me, you prefer a few more mouse clicks and get a more desirable product.

When I put a DVD in a player, I want it to start playing the movie... I don't want menus or ads or warnings, etc. When given the choice of a movie that plays this way, versus an exact disk dupe done in ISO mode (even with PUO's removed), I prefer the former over the latter.

I trim off the leading credits and logos and get rid of bogus crap using DVD Shrink. The product of this process is more valuable to me than a disk dupe... and certainly worth the extra mouse clicks.

I've only done a few DL disks... only when absolutely necessary. For example, the 2 disk set of Perl Harbor, I ripped to HD then reauthored to fit one DL disk. That to me is the value of DL media... not wasting DL media copying DVDs that could easly fit, uncompressed, on SL media if you trim off the crap.

[Sam Ontario]

If you REALLY need a one-click solution, just join the legions of sheeeeeep and use DVD XCopy.

- Gurm

I am a common "Sam", a general consumer, appeals to user friendly FREE progies just like most of the general consumers. There are many good software, only the most user friendly free (or low price) general acceptable quality software will survive, just another classical case of VHS vs Beta format race (not war). Those appeals the general public will last longer.

Unfortunately, experts are only a default minority.

[Gurm]

Maybe the problem here is that I'm in a DISTINCT minority - the minority of people that appreciate the menus, extras, and effort that studios put into DVD's. Sure, on some DVD's it's garbage, but on others it's visually appealing.

Will I keep those menus and extras at the expense of movie quality? Heck no. So until DL's become more reasonably priced, I'll continue doing what I've always done - trim down the DVD's.

But if I have cost-effective media that will fit the entire movie, I see no reason to trim it. I'm not lazy - I can push "play". I don't need the movie to auto-start for me. Besides, maybe I'm putting it in just to see the second half - I like the scene select menus. Maybe I'm just trying to play with the extras.

In fact, I tend to think that, given the opportunity to keep everything and still have perfect visual quality, most people would only choose to trim the really annoying bits - FBI warnings, forced previews, etc.

But even the previews can be cool - ever pop in a 20-year-old videotape? It's AWESOME to see the previews for movies that came out in 1985. "Coming soon to theaters - BACK TO THE FUTURE!"

But yes, if your desire is "movie only", DVD Shrink is easy. Then again, err... so is DVD Decrypter. (Click "movie only", then hit the "extract" button...)

- Gurm

[MackemX]

But yes, if your desire is "movie only", DVD Shrink is easy. Then again, err... so is DVD Decrypter. (Click "movie only", then hit the "extract" button...)

lol, around and around we go

[indolikaa]

But yes, if your desire is "movie only", DVD Shrink is easy. Then again, err... so is DVD Decrypter. (Click "movie only", then hit the "extract" button...)

lol, around and around we go

I don't understand the boldfaced part. Could somebody please explain this to me in more detail?

[Gurm]

But yes, if your desire is "movie only", DVD Shrink is easy. Then again, err... so is DVD Decrypter. (Click "movie only", then hit the "extract" button...)

lol, around and around we go

I don't understand the boldfaced part. Could somebody please explain this to me in more detail?

*sigh*

Mode->File
Edit->Select Movie Files
EXTRACT

Leaves you with the main movie, in a directory, same as DVD Shrink.

- Gurm

[dphirschler]

Kurupter00, some questions if you don't mind.

1) Was the layer break in the same spot as the original?

2) What movie did you copy anyways?

3) What size was the movie?


Darryl

[indolikaa]

But yes, if your desire is "movie only", DVD Shrink is easy. Then again, err... so is DVD Decrypter. (Click "movie only", then hit the "extract" button...)

lol, around and around we go

I don't understand the boldfaced part. Could somebody please explain this to me in more detail?

*sigh*

Mode->File
Edit->Select Movie Files
EXTRACT

Leaves you with the main movie, in a directory, same as DVD Shrink.

- Gurm

Gurm, this is far too complicated for me. Could you just rent the DVDs and do all th work for me, and just mail me the finalized discs?

Gosh, this DVD backup stuff is hard.

[MackemX]

just a quick question as I only have version 3.1.7.0

doesn't selecting File Mode - Movie Only in DVDDecrypter just select the largest VTS and not actually the Movie PGC?
Is audio/subs removal allowed in Filrmode with 3.2.3.0 now?

I suppose you could use IFO mode and stream processing but then you need to create IFO's also which may not contain original chapter points

it's a shame DVDDecrypter doesn't have an 'all in one' movie only option if it hasn't been added

but who gives a toss what people use to rip etc, at the end of the day you just use what works for you

[Sam Ontario]

But yes, if your desire is "movie only", DVD Shrink is easy. Then again, err... so is DVD Decrypter. (Click "movie only", then hit the "extract" button...)

lol, around and around we go

I don't understand the boldfaced part. Could somebody please explain this to me in more detail?

No doubt, you are a DISTINCT minority in a general consumer's shoe and asked that question. I appreciate that. Thats exactly what general consumers need "intuitive" use without needing further DISTINCT experts' advise/clarifications.

[MackemX]

@Sam Ontario, ignore it mate as indolikaa is taking the pi$$

and Gurm's bark is worse than his bite

[Gurm]

Indolikaa was KIDDING, and I was PLAYING ALONG WITH HIM. *sigh*

- Gurm

[ViRaL1]

There are many good software, only the most user friendly free (or low price) general acceptable quality software will survive, just another classical case of VHS vs Beta format race (not war).

Which category would Windows fall into?

[MackemX]

this thread is kind of linked to this one HERE

basically DVDDecrypter is a cheaper, quicker (usertime and processing) than DVDShrink

how?

cheaper - DVDDecrypter has it's own burner but DVDShrink requires something like Nero
quicker usertime - DVDDecrypter can have a .bat file that makes it a 'true' one click process (though you may need to mount the image). I'm sure there is a program that does this automatic somewhere but then agian doesn't AutoShrink exist, so this is talking nanoseconds when comparing
quicker processing - people forget DVDShrink analyzes the disc when you tell it the source so you can add that to the ripping time

the issues regarding burning then may come into it but both will probably have issues

as for the 'free' thing

farts are 'free' but why do some people like the smell of their own (no matter how rotten they are) but not other people's farts?
a fart is a fart 'free' or not

Linux is 'free' yet is still only a small percentage of the OS in use, yet I've seen 1,000's of Windows 'suxs' posts so why do people keep using it

if people think something suddenly performs better (or something that costs $'s performs worse) because it's 'free' then they are mistaken. That's all this debate is about as I'm sure you wouldn't see as many 'DVDShrink is the best so why use anything else' posts

don't get me wrong as I do actually think DVDShrink is one of the 'best' softwares out there but I'm a little more open minded also

p.s what about DVD43?, that's a free ripper, all you do is copy n paste the files once it's setup

[stiltman]

Indolikaa was KIDDING, and I was PLAYING ALONG WITH HIM. *sigh*

- Gurm

I noticed you tend to yell a lot

[indolikaa]

I'm sorry, I forgot to include the requisite emoticon to indicate I was, in fact, being completely sarcastic.



Sorry, wrong emoticon.

Gurm, this is far too complicated for me. Could you just rent the DVDs and do all th work for me, and just mail me the finalized discs?

Gosh, this DVD backup stuff is hard.

There. Is that better?