problems ripping Babe

[dinobike]

I´m trying to do a backup of Babe region 1 NTSC dvd, but what i have is corrupted data ( green blocky image and no audio).
I´ve already try dvd decrypter, anydvd and dvd shrink with no success
I even try to do a copy/paste with the .vob files, but the problem is the same.
The thing that i don´t understand is that i can view the dvd on power dvd flawlessly.
Is something that must check or uncheck in dvd decrypter or anydvd??

I´m using the latest dvd decrypter 3.2.3.0 and anydvd 3.2.0.1 versions.

any ideas??

[madmoose]

what type of dvd drive are u using? Also, try dvdfab

does it appear green and blocky when you try to play the ripped files on your computer? or just when you burn it to a disc?

I'll try to rip my copy and get back to you.

[dinobike]

I'm using my dvd writer lg 4040 and the dvd-rom lg 8161.

does it appear green and blocky when you try to play the ripped files on your computer?

yes



i´m gonna try with dvd fab[/quote]

[dinobike]

i used dvdfab but didn't work.

i´m stuck.

[DVD_Ripper]

Do a good cleaning on your disk... i've had read errors before... a few minutes of cleaning and it rips / copies just fine.

[glockjs]

yup, clean that disk. otherwise it might be a bad burn that your tryin to rip. could try to click on the setting in decrypter to ignore errors.

[dinobike]

but i can play and see it on power dvd...if its dirty i couldn't see anything, right??

[eKa]

no, dirty disks and scratched disks can still play just fine but when you go to rip they fall over.

The problem could also be bad blanks used by the distributor, I have had this problem several times. Tried again on a different copy and it works fine even though there is no obvious scratch, mark or smudge on the disk. I have also found that new disks do not rip well either but a quick wash does the trick most times.

I use four ripping programs, links on this site under tools, so if after washing they all fail to rip I move on to another movie, life is just too short.

[Gurm]

One of these days I'm going to bust out my references, and do a nice article on "raw" versus "cooked".

Essentially, PLAYERS (both hardware and software) can read discs that can't be ripped. This applies to both music CD's AND DVD's. Why? Many reasons...

1. They only read at 1x. Yep, you got it. 1x. Not only that, but they go into a separate mode to do it...

2. They read, depending on a certain structure to be present. This is why people have problems with Nero sometimes making discs that won't play in their player. This is why we talk about DVD's being "compliant".

For example, music CD's have NO formatting data. The data is just on there, raw. It is ASSUMED to be 16-bit stereo audio data at 44khz. If it isn't, the player either won't play the disc, or will play screeches instead of music. That's why you can often fit 800MB of WAV files onto a 650MB CD.

The same thing holds true of a VideoCD. People often say to me "how can you fit an 800MB MPEG file onto a 700MB VideoCD?" and I answer "because it's an hour long and it's a compliant video". People have no conception of just how much of an MPEG file is formatting data. If you simply ASSUME that the video is 352x240, and that you get a certain type of frame every X frames (the exact numbers elude me) then you can kill off a HUGE percentage (10% or more) of the filesize!

Early drives for the PC always read in "cooked" mode. This is to say that they assumed that the disc was formatted ISO9660, had a TOC that was formatted properly, had sectors of a certain length, etc. Then, if you wanted to play audioCD's, the drive would switch to "audioCD mode", but wouldn't send digital data out.

Even today, many CD/DVD drives SUCK at extracting digital audio data from a CD, for exactly this reason.

So there are situations in which a scratch or dirt keeps a ripper from getting the data off the disc, but there are OTHER situations where a different scratch or dirt blob might keep the player from playing it - but the ripper will read it just fine.

I'm confusing terminology here of course, like I said I have to do my research and get my references in line, but I hope this has helped clear up SOME confusion... or maybe it's just created more. *sigh*

- Gurm