dvd ps2?

[superdan]

hey ive been backing up ps games for a while and ps2 cd games also dvd movies but i dont know where to start with ps2 dvd based games is there a program that will make a 1:1 copy of these? i have a modified ps2 console with a chip and fliptop i know the best program is a matter of choice but could somebody tell me what to use for easy consistent reliable results ? i am running windows me with a samsung cd burner and a pioneer usb dvd burner if anyone can help tha would be great a

[jimmalenko]

I believe you can just do a disc to disc copy with PS2 games.

[sunderland]

just use dvddecryptor copy in iso mode to harddrive then write back in iso mode to disk thats all you have to do and its free but if i was you i would burn at a slow speed for reliability

[handyguy]

ps2 games don't have copy protection on them so they copy as any other disk does & use only -r media. for games.

[superdan]

smartripper dosent seem to recognize ps2 dvd it says no dvd found it works fine for movies though

[sunderland]

use dvddecryptor it works a treat and you can use +/- disks both work fine

[silliejo1234]

does the flip top really work?asumming you use swap magic to swap the games.....?

[superdan]

the flip top with the no solder chip works great for me for cd backups havent yet tried it for dvds

[superdan]

how do i get the image from hard drive to disk? my cd programs are an all in one deal .dvd decryptor worked by the way thanks! sorry if this is a dumb question but im learning this stuff as we speak

[DeleriumMDK]

fliptop and a no-solder chip? Um you only need one or the other...the no-solder chip tricks the drive, as does the fliptop. I hope you didn't pay too much for either.

[jawgee]

fliptop and a no-solder chip? Um you only need one or the other...the no-solder chip tricks the drive, as does the fliptop. I hope you didn't pay too much for either.

Yeah, but having a no-solder chip allows one to play PSOne games without swapping. The no-solder chip will also aloow one to play DVD-Rip games that came out before DVD burners became prevalent. A nice combo IMHO.

I've played plenty of DVD copies with the fliptop: GTA III, GTA: Vice City, Burnout 2, & many more.

jawgee

[DeleriumMDK]

Yeah, but having a no-solder chip allows one to play PSOne games without swapping. The no-solder chip will also aloow one to play DVD-Rip games that came out before DVD burners became prevalent. A nice combo IMHO.

I've played plenty of DVD copies with the fliptop: GTA III, GTA: Vice City, Burnout 2, & many more.

jawgee

No, the chip you speak of isn't a no-solder chip. Its a Neo, which requires SOME soldering. Theres no plug and play chip that automatically boots backups. Look up the Neo 2.2, SBox...they require at LEAST 1, or as many as 8-14 wires I believe. The no-solder chips are simply a means to use Swap Magic and to trick the PS2 into thinking the drive hasn't actually been opened.

[jawgee]

Oh yeah, I forgot that I did solder one wire. No big deal, just two solder points, one of them real easy. Anyway, it was worth the time & money for the NeoKey/SBox + the fliptop cover.

jawgee

[jimmalenko]

smartripper dosent seem to recognize ps2 dvd it says no dvd found it works fine for movies though

Why would it ? It is for removing CSS encryption from movie DVDs, not copying PS2 games.

Any decent burning software will be able to write ISO images to disc.

[superdan]

will a ps2 dvd fit on a vcd?

[DeleriumMDK]

A PS2 game...on a VCD? Ok...let me explain whats so wrong about this concept.

Its a GAME. By that alone, it can't be a VCD...not to mention, the PS2 isn't VCD compatible.

However, some people do rip games to make them fit onto CD-R. It requires some hex-editing knowledge, a DVD-ROM drive, a CD-RW drive, and a modchipped PS2. You can't boot these rips with a Swap Magic boot disc. More trouble than they're worth though, they aren't good for the PS2 and strain the laser, plus its hard to make a working "rip". 1:1 copies are the way to go, if its on a DVD burn it on a DVD, if its on a CD, burn it on a CD.

[yantz]

i use disc copy using a nero oem, included with my dvd writer, without any problem. i'm using the messiah2 chip. so far i only tried using -r and -rw. original ps2 dvd on my slave lg cd writer and blank disc on my tdk dvd writer, direct copy

yantz

[handyguy]

"will a ps2 dvd fit on a vcd?"

Sure lots of games do but easier to get them from someone who already converted a dvd game to cd after taking out unimportant stuff.

[superdan]

has anyone converted ps2dvd to cdr using dvd squeeze?

[DeleriumMDK]

It requires other software...these aren't VCD like files you're dealing with. Files need to be converted to a usable PC format and then downsampled, or entirely cut out. Trust me, PS2 backups ripped to fit on CD are NOT worth the time or trouble. Get yourself a good chipped PS2, and burn your own backups, if its originally on CD, burn it to CD. If its on DVD, burn it to DVD.

[glockjs]

nero or alcohol120 disc copy. i'd burn at slower speed so data is more stable. +r or -r works either ways, depends on what ur ps2 reads.

[DeleriumMDK]

Ive got a V7 NTSC USA PS2 myself with a DMS3...I burn my games at 4X, unless its on +RW, then its 2.4X. I've never had a game not work, even when I used the fliptop burning at 4X worked fine. My main advice for people backing up PS2 games...USE GOOD MEDIA. Don't save 25 cents and use that Princo garbage. I've backed my games up on nothing but TDK DVD-R, Ritek G04's, and Memorex DVD+R's and my PS2 is as strong as it was on day 1. The better media you use, the less wear and tear on your lens, and the quicker everything will load up. Some PS2's are picky about burn speed, but the issue 9 times out of 10 (in my experience) is people using cheap media. I see no reason to burn any PS2 game slower than the speed your discs and drive are capable of unless you have a super-picky early model system.

[davemuhs]

I have a quick question. I understand the reason's behind a modchip. I am on a mac using Roxio Toast Titanium, and on it you can do an disc copy. so if i do that straight to a dvd-r, why would i need a modchip, because shouldn't the boot data be copied onto the dvd-r?

[jimmalenko]

I have a quick question. I understand the reason's behind a modchip. I am on a mac using Roxio Toast Titanium, and on it you can do an disc copy. so if i do that straight to a dvd-r, why would i need a modchip, because shouldn't the boot data be copied onto the dvd-r?

AFAIK, you need a chip to play burnt games. End of story. Try it and find out I guess.

[jawgee]

You don't need a modchip to play PS2 copies, though that is one way to skin the cat. You can purchase a fliptop case to replace your current PS2 case (where easy modification that requires no soldering) along with a Swap Magic CD/DVD boot disc set.

jawgee

[ps2daddy]

I have a quick question. I understand the reason's behind a modchip. I am on a mac using Roxio Toast Titanium, and on it you can do an disc copy. so if i do that straight to a dvd-r, why would i need a modchip, because shouldn't the boot data be copied onto the dvd-r?

You cant copy the disk "error"/wobble with software
https://www.videohelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=782195&highlight=wobble+grove#782195

[ps2daddy]

You don't need a modchip to play PS2 copies, though that is one way to skin the cat. You can purchase a fliptop case to replace your current PS2 case (where easy modification that requires no soldering) along with a Swap Magic CD/DVD boot disc set.

jawgee

There are a few games that wont work unless you do 2 - 3 swaps and some that wont work period depending on your version but 90% of all game will work with a few swaps in most cases

goto

www.swapmagicfix.com for a detailed list of all the exceptions

100% of the games will work with a good modchip with no swaps but you have to be handy at soldering, trust someone to mod it, or trust buying a premod.

If you are good at soldering yourself it would even come out cheaper in a lot of cases for a reliable chip than buying a flip top and swap magic disks

[Electrox3d]

8) Why are you guys wasting time trying to burn PS2 games? Just install a hard disk and use HD loader to store the games on to a HD up to 120GB!
http://www.hdloader.com

HAHAHAHAAAA sweeeeet. :P

But then again, if you want to burn games at a friends house "you can't borrow it! you always scratch it!" then just get this <1lb burner. ITS SIC
2xDVD-R/-RW/RAM, slot load (like in your car), AND its USB2, Firewire.
http://www.digistor.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=37
(that same slim dvd drive goes for $210 on pricewatch, and thats WITHOUT the USB 2, and Firewire enclosure!)

And copy the games where ever you are...

EDIT:
oops, forgot to entice you with a price... its only $159 BAM!

[ps2daddy]

8) Why are you guys wasting time trying to burn PS2 games? Just install a hard disk and use HD loader to store the games on to a HD up to 120GB!
http://www.hdloader.com

HAHAHAHAAAA sweeeeet. :P

But then again, if you want to burn games at a friends house "you can't borrow it! you always scratch it!" then just get this <1lb burner. ITS SIC
2xDVD-R/-RW/RAM, slot load (like in your car), AND its USB2, Firewire.
http://www.digistor.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=37
(that same slim dvd drive goes for $210 on pricewatch, and thats WITHOUT the USB 2, and Firewire enclosure!)

And copy the games where ever you are...

EDIT:
oops, forgot to entice you with a price... its only $159 BAM!

Cool idea
Since its not out I can only go by what I read

Pros
Can backup most original games
Not have to carry disks around
Economicably priced
As long as you can read the HDLoader CD your laser can be crappy and you can still play dvd based games

Cons
You can't copy a backup with it unless you have a modchip (they dont discuss this but probable)
You cannot play any online game with DNAS
Has ATA 100 limit of 133GB (actually 120 but close enough) so you cannot save more than ~45 games
Probably going to have strong protection of original games

Modchip
Pros
Can play every game
Dont need a hard drive
Can play DNAS online enable games if you have the right chip
Unlimited amount of games
Price for a Messiah 2 or Duo under $40 and if you can install yourself (enough said)

Cons
Have to be able to install or trust someone to do (Only a con if you cant solder or if you dont trust people or if someone is cheap)
Can't carry a large number of games around in a quick convient form factor like a hard drive.
Wont do you any good if the laser is going out you have to buy a new laser to play games
Need a DVD burner

I'll probably pick up a disk after I let the ginea pigs buy them first and let them test it and and we see the real truth about it after it actually comes out on June 11th.

For now I still say modchips are still king over swap disks or the HD loader


We Could go back and forth all day this is just my opinion but its differnt strokes for differnt folks everyone is entitled to their own opinion

[ps2daddy]

8) then just get this <1lb burner. ITS SIC
2xDVD-R/-RW/RAM, slot load (like in your car), AND its USB2, Firewire.
http://www.digistor.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=37
(that same slim dvd drive goes for $210 on pricewatch, and thats WITHOUT the USB 2, and Firewire enclosure!)

And copy the games where ever you are...

EDIT:
oops, forgot to entice you with a price... its only $159 BAM!

I got one even better for ya
http://meritline.com/dvddrives.html

More specifically

Its a DVD+/-RW 4x external USB 2.0 DVD writer $85 Bam!!!!
http://meritline.com/tdk-440n-external-usb-2-dvd-burner-drive.html