Need software to protect personal DVD's

[dominore]

I'm wondering if anyone knows of any software to add copy protection to personal DVD's.

[Gurm]

*** WARNING ***

LAME PIRATE FLAGS TRIGGERED!

- Gurm

[johns0]

Yup,put them in a locked cabinet or safe.

[MOVIEGEEK]

Let the flaming begin!

A sharp nail across the top and bottom.

[jarvis1781]

I'm wondering if anyone knows of any software to add copy protection to personal DVD's.

if you did this for attention...you got it.
if you are serious...you are a moron.

obviously copy protection doesn't work or you wouldn't have been able to rip the DVD in the first place

[garryheather]

Watermark your video with your name and address diagonally across the center in huge, brightly coloured letters. That should put most people off of the idea of copying it.

If it's data, use Winzip and password protect it. They can still copy it, but not use it.

[holistic]

I'm wondering if anyone knows of any software to add copy protection to personal DVD's.

I will be sending you a bill for a new keyboard and coffee...and you can clean the monitor.
$hit that was funny.

[arrived03]

i am sure adobe encore dvd has protection you can burn on your private discs.

[holistic]

i am sure adobe encore dvd has protection you can burn on your private discs.

NOT

[bugster]

i am sure adobe encore dvd has protection you can burn on your private discs.

NOT

CORRECT.

Do not be fooled by any DVD Authoring app that claims to be able to add CSS encryption or any other form of copy protection.

IT IS NOT POSSIBLE to add CSS to burnt discs.

If the multi-million dollar movie industry cannot adequaltley copy protect their DVD's, what makes you think a home user can.

[ricky1756]

a bike chain through the hole and a padlock, you could call it yiour dvd chastity belt

[smearbrick1]

You could always higher a local "working girl" (must have both a sexually transmitted disease that can also be transmitted by mouth or touch). Get this girl to lick all of your dvd's. If you aren't sure that licking them will do the trick, you could always have her put them between her legs for fifteen minutes while you entertain yourself in front of her with a bottle Jergens lotion and a box of tissues. As long as you put a disclaimer sticker on the DVD's stating what was done to them to prevent copying, I don't think anyone would EVER consider even touching your collection.


One must ask the question....

Why do you want copy protect your personal backup copies? Do you have alot of DVD pirates roving about in your neighborhood? Or, is this protection protecting the backups from being backed up, thus unprotected again?

[bugster]

One must ask the question....

Why do you want copy protect your personal backup copies?

To give dominore some crdit, he did ask

I'm wondering if anyone knows of any software to add copy protection to personal DVD's.

So these could be home made and not backups.

[Gazorgan]

It can be encrypted with PGP, but then it's computer only to play it. And no DVD structure either, just straight MPEG's. P4 only to decrypt on the fly and view.

Is there a point in doing this?

[northcat_8]

Bugster -

So these could be home made and not backups.

Yea, but the reason for protection is to protect from piracy(like it works)....I don't want to copy your home movies and I'm pretty sure you don't want to copy my home movies.

So unless "dominore" is Tommy Lee's screen name I'm having a hard time coming up with a reason why anyone else would want to protect their home movies.

[MYoung]

Bow wah! Chicka bow wah!
<Smack!>
<Moan!>

"Get a steal safe." Nuff said.

[hutchca]

To add some constructive information to this thread...

The CSS system used by commercial DVD's, stores the encryption key in a special area of the DVD disc.
On a recordable DVD-R, this section of the disc is not recordable, it's hard coded with a blank encryption key.

This is done deliberately. Imagine if you could write to that area of the disc. You could then copy the encryption key from the original disc, so that copying a DVD would not require decrypting it. You could just copy the original disc bit for bit and it would play fine in any player.

So in order to keep the motion picture industry happy and avoid lawsuits, the makers of blank recordable discs (and drives) have made them in such a way as to make it physically impossible to record CCS encrypted data.

I should also tell you that there actually are blank recordable DVDs available that are capable of writing data to this area of the disc.
These blank DVDs are sold to professionals for authoring commercial DVDs. These authoring blanks are much more expensive and incompatible with consumer DVD-R drives.
Here's a PDF on the difference between "General Use" and "Authoring" type DVD-R discs.
http://www.cdrom2go.com/optical_media/DVDR_whitepaper.pdf

[robguy]

Methinks dominore has left the building.

[drti2]

hutchca - very informative post, the rest of flammers, get a life, idiots.

DVD Workshop 2 claim to have both CSS and Macrovision, so I don't know how if they are lying or not.

If you buy the Canopus MVR pro, the card come with Ulead® DVD Workshop SE™, I don't know if this is the same as the DVD Workshop 2.

SE - second edition = 2
SE - strip down version = limited funtionality

So if anybody know about the Ulead® DVD Workshop SE™ vs. 2, let us know.

[gmatov]

SE on a software release more often than not means "Special Edition", meaning stripped down edition that will be packed with a hardware device, DVD, CD, Vid card, whatever.

They do not give you a 600 buck program with a 200 buck camera or the like.

Now, if that stripped down edition can encrypt a DVD, Bollywood better go see them instead of paying for CSS and Macro. Save a ton of bucks.

Cheers,

George

[Cornucopia]

With the few exceptions of those high-end authoring apps that SPECIFICALLY support pro DVD-R (the Authoring Version) such as Maestro, Creator and Scenarist, none of these programs apply ANYTHING to the DVD-R that can be even remotely construed as copy protection.

If they claim to support CP, what they're likely talking about is that if (and this is the big IF) you happen to own a supported DLT tape drive ($$$), and your DVD is going to be sent to a replication plant (more $$$), the app will include flags on the DLT that tells the plant to apply CSS and/or Macrovision when they make the glass master and stamp the discs. Furthermore, you have to pay MORE $$$ to the CSS people and $$$ to the Macrovision people for them to "allow" you to license their technology.

It's one of those things mentioned about big business, where you got to already be rich to play the game and get richer.

Not to confuse--even those few exceptions have to do this with DLT. What they can do is put those flags directly on your DVD-R(A) disc which would be sent to the plant instead of the DLT tape. However, while playback of the disc could trigger Macrovision (never CSS), you are not allowed to ever have it on there EXCEPT when you are sending it to a plant. If Macrovision ever found out about someone doing this, they would HAPPILY slap them with a big lawsuit.

So to get back to basics and answer the original question....NO!


Scott

[mickle]

I usually find that 3 seconds in the microwave on high stops ANYONE reading the discs.

[proxyx99]

You can set copy protection if software permits. Just like any original composition you may put a warning at the beggining or the end of your personal movie warning about unauthorized distribution. From that moment your rights are protected and any unauthorized distibution of the whole or part of your movie are protected just like an original book or picture. It gives you the right to sue for any breach as per intellectual property protection statutes.
The question is not stupid or illegitimate. Check copyright laws at your local library.

[daamon]

Hi dominore (if you're still following this),

If you think about it, if Hollywood can't stop people using tools like SmartRipper, DVDDecrypter etc. to rip movies, then a home enthusiast has no chance.

That said, to answer:

So unless "dominore" is Tommy Lee's screen name I'm having a hard time coming up with a reason why anyone else would want to protect their home movies.

...I guess you could be making "cool" movies to sell to your mates (skateboarding, blades etc.), or wedding videos that you wanna sell rather than have them copied.

If that's the case, you're stuck (as I think you'll have gathered). What you could do is to charge a one-off fee to the person asking you to make the video (sufficient to cover your time, expense and "loss of earnings" through copying), and tell them you're happy for them to copy it as much as they like.

Just my thoughts...

[proxyx99]

Hi dominore (if you're still following this),

If you think about it, if Hollywood can't stop people using tools like SmartRipper, DVDDecrypter etc. to rip movies, then a home enthusiast has no chance.

No one in his right mind will publish a commercial DVD. It is more likely that someone may use your own material without permission or royalties (happens every day with photos). In that case you may sue for compensation and damages as well as seek court injunction (remember Pamela Anderson little "home" movie?). Perfect example.

[Cornucopia]

No one in his right mind will publish a commercial DVD. It is more likely that someone may use your own material without permission or royalties (happens every day with photos). In that case you may sue for compensation and damages as well as seek court injunction (remember Pamela Anderson little "home" movie?). Perfect example.

proxy99, I'm not quite sure what you mean by that 1st sentence...

Otherwise, what you say is "theoretically" true. Unfortunately, most little guys wouldn't be aware of when people were copying their stuff. And lawsuits cost money, so unless you've got a really solid case (with proof/witnesses and all), that could be--how is the phrase?--chasing good money after bad.
yes, you can add the "©" symbol and warning/nag screens (although you don't even have to actually do that anymore in the USA for it to officially be considered copyrighted), but all that does is legally and morally/ethically protect you--as far as it goes; it doesn't physically/technologically protect you. This is what I thought the original poster was asking about.

Scott

[jimmalenko]

All users of this site be it for illegal activities or backups under Fair Use are circumventing the copy protection that Hollywood has deemed to be suitable for the timebeing.

It always amuses me when people post to the forum wanting to protect their personal DVDs. You're asking people who know ways around it ?

No beef - just an observation.

[northcat_8]

It always amuses me when people post to the forum wanting to protect their personal DVDs. You're asking people who know ways around it ?

Me too. I also think it's funny when the industry comes out with the NEW and IMPROVED, can't break it security feature...and 2 weeks later, someone has not only broke it but has written a program for everyone else to use to break it also.

Talk about an exercise in futility. They might as well be trying to teach my wife how to walk by a sale... (I gave up 10 years ago)

[bugster]

Talk about an exercise in futility. They might as well be trying to teach my wife how to walk by a sale... (I gave up 10 years ago)

You give up to easily. I am still trying to persuade my wife to walk past a clothes or shoe sale after nearly 20 years!! Note the use of the word 'trying'.

[Supreme2k]

Is something wrong with the messageboard? I swear that this is what I read as the first post:

"Dear DVDRhelp,

I recently learned how to rip, shrink, and burn DVDs. I have rented and/or borrowed many DVDs, and now have my own personal copies. The problem is, some of my friends (who have burners) want to borrow my unencrypted DVDs. How do I copy-protect my pirated DVDs so that my friends at least have to kick me a couple of bucks to copy them? I won't actually be selling them the DVDs, just the cost of my expertise gained from visiting this site (I am also trying to figure out a way to prevent them from visiting this site).

Yours Truly,
Some guy doing perfectly legal stuff"

smearbrick1,
I think Southpark owns the copyright to that idea