Recording in xp and re-encoding better than recording in sp?

[fsuorange]

Hello,

I have a panasonic dmr-e50 ram recorder and would like to know which yields better quality video when compressing.

Recording in best quality mode with panasonic and letting a computer encoder shrink it down to fit with other programs on one disc

OR

Recording straight off in sp or worse quality to fit on disc with other programs and NOT re-encoding using a computer program

If computer encoder is the answer for best quality video than can you please recommend one for me?

Thanks

[donpedro]

Even that somebody might recomend you something. Best way would be to try both methods by your self and see. Good luck.

[fsuorange]

let me ask this another way since it was confusing to me even!

Is the encoder on panasonic better than an encoder on a computer say tmpgenc for maintaining quality but shrinking file size?

Thanks

[goose04]

On my Pioneer 510h I have found that recording in Fine and then transferring to disk in sp looks great.
I needed to fit 3 1/2 hours on a disc for a project that is going to require about 30 copies, did a test record in fine and then did optimize to disc, then copied that disc back to the hard drive and made another disc with the high speed dubbing, it took 32 minutes to transfer and video quality still looked very good.
So I guess what I'm saying is that I think you should record everything in fine mode and lower bitrate to fit disc.

[handyguy]

It depends what you are recording. What are you recording?

[K_cin_az]

I have a friend who records boxing fights on a panny 80. He said that he always records them on the best quality setting then uses DVD shrink to fit several fights on one dvd...havent tested myself though as I still dont have a recorder

[goose04]

that should be 510s not h, anyway we tested twice once with a WWF wrestling event, 2 hours 40 minutes, and once with 2 movies back to back 3 hours 30 minutes. There was no artifacting and although not quite as good as original they both were way better than highest quality vhs.

[SLK001]

I would record at the best quality (use extra discs, if needed), transfer to the computer, IVTC the video (if the original was FILM based), then use a quality encoder to re-encode to a lower bit rate.

But that is just me.

[donpedro]

that should be 510s not h

or Pioneer DVR510-HS (I believe that H=with hard drive and S=in silver, not sure if they make it in differnet color f.e. B=Black)

[goose04]

OK 510HS, it's not sitting infront of me right now so i was kind of guessing. I'm very impressed with it anyway so I'm ordering another one this week.
Does anyone know if you can capture from the hard drive in premiere pro using the firewire? I haven't tried this yet, but plan to in the next couple of days.

[donpedro]

From nonreliable source... You can send firewire signal to PC only from DVD and not from HD. Please post back your findings.

[goose04]

I've tried successfully to transfer footage from camera to the pioneer 510HS hard drive and then back to camera through firewire, I'll be trying the transfer to PC Thursday night, I'll let you know how it goes.

[goose04]

Last night I got around to trying to transfer footage from the 510 hard drive to the PC through firewire in Premiere Pro, In capture mode Premiere would not control the HD which I didn't think it would, but by just hitting play on the Pioneer and Record in Premiere I was able to capture over 2 hours of footage (as one avi) without any drop frames. worked the same way in DVD mode.
I Love this machine!!