confused copying DVD9 to 2 DVDRs

[Telexen]

I'm using Ifoedit along with the tutorial at Doom9 to copy my DVD onto two DVDRs, but my scenario is slightly off from the example in the tutorial.

I've used the Split to 2 DVD-Rs feature and it seems to work, and now I know I have to put some of the other VOB files on each disc. The tutorial only puts on VTS_01_x because the movie is in VTS_02_x ... then it puts 03-07 onto the second disc - simple enough. But my movie is in my VTS_05_X VOB. Playing around with this I know I have to have VOBs for 01 through 04 for it to work, but that doesn't leave enough room on either disc for the 06 VOBs.

What do I do? I'd like to stick with IfoEdit and not have to use DVDFab

[wolv6769]

I use the same method, although I've never had the movie in VTS_05. Why do you say you have to put VTS_01 thru VTS_04. You shouldn't have to include 1 thru 4, if you don't want them, on the first disk. Are you getting VTS Sector, in ifoEdit, after you add 2 and 3 for example?

As an example I would split the disk this way, if you've already tried the above.

Disk one (Keeping 1 and 3 on disk):
VIDEO_TS.xxx
VTS_01_0.bup
VTS_01_0.ifo
VTS_01_0.vob
VTS_01_1.vob
VTS_01_2.vob

VTS_02_0.bup
VTS_02_0.ifo
VTS_02_0.vob

VTS_03_0.bup
VTS_03_0.ifo
VTS_03_0.vob
VTS_03_1.vob
VTS_03_2.vob

VTS_04_0.bup
VTS_04_0.ifo
VTS_04_0.vob

VTS_05_0.bup
VTS_05_0.ifo
VTS_05_0.vob
VTS_05_1.vob
VTS_05_2.vob
VTS_05_3.vob

VTS_06_0.bup
VTS_06_0.ifo
VTS_06_0.vob

Disc Two (Keeping 2, 4 and 6 on disk):
VIDEO_TS.xxx
VTS_01_0.bup
VTS_01_0.ifo
VTS_01_0.vob

VTS_02_0.bup
VTS_02_0.ifo
VTS_02_0.vob
VTS_02_1.vob

VTS_03_0.bup
VTS_03_0.ifo
VTS_03_0.vob

VTS_04_0.bup
VTS_04_0.ifo
VTS_04_0.vob
VTS_04_1.vob
VTS_04_2.vob


VTS_05_0.bup
VTS_05_0.ifo
VTS_05_0.vob
VTS_05_1.vob
VTS_05_2.vob
VTS_05_3.vob

VTS_06_0.bup
VTS_06_0.ifo
VTS_06_0.vob
VTS_06_1.vob

Basically you keep the title sets where you want the xtras, and remove them where you don't.

Hope this works, let me know.

[Telexen]

Wow that's strange. I thought I had to have the sequential files because the first time I attempted this I split the movie just fine and added the VTS_01 VOBs as the tutorial said, then tried playing the VIDEO_TS.IFO in PowerDVD and after the numerous FBI warnings and rating screen (can I take these out with Ifoedit BTW? ) it just seemed to stop and refused to go to the movie file. But I tried it again and it works now. I'll split the other files onto the disks as needed. Thanks.

[wolv6769]

Yes, you can remove them, easily. They are usually in your menu VOBs.

Here's a helpful guide for use with ifoedit:

http://www.deano.dsl.pipex.com/backup/index.htm

[Telexen]

I just can't get it to work...I've been going over the Doom9 tutorial and one on the ifoedit website (it seems to be better)...but when I try to burn with InstantCopy I get errors that it can't find the "specified" file - of course it won't tell me what it is.

Here's the exact method step by step I'm trying. Let me know if I'm missing something.

1) Opened VTS_05_0.IFO in IFOEdit and "Split to 2 DVD-Rs" splitting it around the middle of the movie. It's supposed to auto select the layer-break for me, but it doesn't. It created two directories that I specified with the following contents:


..\disc1\VIDEO_TS\
20,480 VIDEO_TS.BUP
20,480 VIDEO_TS.IFO
1,828,864 VIDEO_TS.VOB
51,200 VTS_05_0.BUP
51,200 VTS_05_0.IFO
60,899,328 VTS_05_0.VOB
1,073,512,448 VTS_05_1.VOB
1,073,686,528 VTS_05_2.VOB
323,938,304 VTS_05_3.VOB

..\disc2\VIDEO_TS\
20,480 VIDEO_TS.BUP
20,480 VIDEO_TS.IFO
1,828,864 VIDEO_TS.VOB
57,344 VTS_05_0.BUP
57,344 VTS_05_0.IFO
60,899,328 VTS_05_0.VOB
1,073,649,664 VTS_05_1.VOB
1,073,555,456 VTS_05_2.VOB
948,213,760 VTS_05_3.VOB


2) I copy all the VTS_01_0.XXX files into both directories as the tutorials sate. The tutorial at IFOEdit's website says that just by adding the VTS_01_0.XXX files with the split video files in either directory I should be able to use the Play DVD feature and it should work perfectly - well it doesn't. I have added the 02-04 files and now it works...which is convinient because that puts the disc right around 4gb, so I can just put the 06 files on the 2nd disc. Is this okay? So now I add the VTS_06_0.XXX files (there are just two) to disc1.

Here is my disc1 directory listing at this point:


20,480 VIDEO_TS.BUP
20,480 VIDEO_TS.IFO
1,828,864 VIDEO_TS.VOB
18,432 VTS_01_0.BUP
18,432 VTS_01_0.IFO
229,376 VTS_01_0.VOB
14,336 VTS_02_0.BUP
14,336 VTS_02_0.IFO
7,931,904 VTS_02_1.VOB
14,336 VTS_03_0.BUP
14,336 VTS_03_0.IFO
12,845,056 VTS_03_1.VOB
32,768 VTS_04_0.BUP
32,768 VTS_04_0.IFO
1,073,709,056 VTS_04_1.VOB
408,401,920 VTS_04_2.VOB
53,248 VTS_05_0.BUP
53,248 VTS_05_0.IFO
60,899,328 VTS_05_0.VOB
1,073,512,448 VTS_05_1.VOB
1,073,686,528 VTS_05_2.VOB
537,380,864 VTS_05_3.VOB
26,624 VTS_06_0.BUP
26,624 VTS_06_0.IFO


3) Focusing on just disc1 I edit it's VIDEO_TS to fix the number of chapters (which is my case is 13 from 33)

4) Although I'm not sure it's necessary, I close and repoen IfoEdit, then open all the IFO files in my disc1 directory and press Get VTS Sectors. It gives 4 messages saying it's corrected various things.

5) I should be ready to burn disc1...so I open InstantCopy and set it to burn to my DVD Writer from the Hard Disk and hit Start. It goes through "Getting audio data size 1 of 6" up to 6 of 6...when I get the error: "The system cannot find the specified file (80070002)"

Where did I go wrong?

[dafreak]

have you tried using dvdfab?
it automates this entire process for you. Load your dvd-9 files into dvdfab. choose, main movie or full dvd, and select split into 2 disks.
it will load files into two folders. load files into nero and burn.

you can find the guide here:

http://www.doom9.org/index.html?/mpg/dvdfab-fullsplit.htm

[Telexen]

I'm sure DVDFab works well, but I said I'd like to do it without DVDFab and with IfoEdit because I'm not sure I can have the control over what goes onto the DVD with DVDFab that I can with IfoEdit...though DVDFab should work perfectly with the copy I want of this movie.

[wolv6769]

I have never gotten the "DVD Play" feature to work in IfoEdit, when I split the movies. there is a fix, but I've never used it because it works fine in the stand alone.

Yes you should be able to put the 06 file in disk 2.

I would remove:
26,624 VTS_06_0.BUP
26,624 VTS_06_0.IFO
from disk 1.

Only "Get VTS Sectors" once. Unless you add more files. Open VTS_05_0.ifo, and do it there. I've mistaken done it more than once and had to start over.

Is the movie multi-angle? I discovered I have to keep any mutli-anles xtras with each disk inorder to get it to work. Everything worked fine until I tried to burn it. There is an option to remove the multi-angle, but I still had to keep the multi-angle xtras on each disk.

Also, is the movie contained in multiple titlesets? There is an additional step that needs to be followed, if that is the case. They use Miss Congeniality as an example in the ifo guides.

Let me know what movie you are trying to back up, and if I have it I will try it on my end.

[Telexen]

I'm trying to backup The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen

I'll try doing the Get VTS Sectors on just that file

If by multiple titlesets you mean the 6 titles on the disc (the first is the movie which is in VTS_05_x) then yes it is. I'll go hunt down that tutorial and check it out.

Thanks again...I know this is a very newb problem - that's why it's ticking me off so much

[MackemX]

@wolv6769, I don't think you can just remove the VTS like that but you are right in saying Ifoedit can strip the warnings . I don't know if my guides are that up to date now though . 2COOL's thread at DOOM9 may help HERE

there's a few guides on splitting and it all depends what you want to do.

are you trying to keep the menu's at all? on one DVD or both?
do you have an idea how big will each split DVD be?
in the movie VTS, does the IFO only show 1 PGC or does it have more?

[wolv6769]

@MackemX

Telexen would probably be better suited to answer your questions, as he originated the questions. But here goes, he is using the same method I use to split movies, which means he is keeping the menus, on both disks. He said it would be around 4GB.

Also in answer to removing the VTS, originally the movie is split using ifoEdit and the VTS in question 06, is left out, because it's an xtra. After IfoEdit splits the movie, with the menus, you are allowed to add the xtras back in. In this case I asked him keep 06 out of disk 1, as he only added the ifo and bup, and not the vob. I've only been doing this for a month and I have been using a combination of your guide and 2Cools, and you are correct they are not up to date, but they still work. Thanks, for the guides.

[MackemX]

@wolv6769, oops , those questions were mean't for Telexen, I guess I forgot the @ bit for him

[Telexen]

Yes I'm trying to keep the menus. With this particular copy I want to keep everything, though I'd like to know enough to be able to cut out things like subtitles, extra languages, and features that I don't need on my copy. Both discs should be right around 4gb, but the second will be roughly 4.2gb by my estimate (just by splitting the movie and adding the 6th VTS sets to it). Im not sure what the PGC is, but when I open the movie IFO it shows "Play First PGC: (Programs: 0) (Cells:0)" after listing all 6 title sets.

The Doom9 forum is down right now, I'll keep checking up on it though - thanks

[Telexen]

I've tried the same method again on disc1 except I didn't put the 6th set of files in the folder, and now InstantCopy gives me the error "List index out of bounds (5)" immediately while it's 20% through "Reading video title sets"

[MackemX]

I've tried the same method again on disc1 except I didn't put the 6th set of files in the folder, and now InstantCopy gives me the error "List index out of bounds (5)" immediately while it's 20% through "Reading video title sets"

that's telling you that you have issues with your structure which is basically your missing files as the IFO's still refer to them

Doom9 is back up, so go check out 2COOL's guides if you already haven't

from your description it sounds like you opened the VIDEO_TS.IFO. Open the VTS_0x_0.IFO IFO that has the main movie (normally the largest in size) and it will have 1 or more PGC's in the bottom window under the audio/subs list

[wolv6769]

I backed up LXG, I was able to copy all of it on one disk by removing the xtras, subtitles, and the french and spanish tracks. I used ifoEdit to remove the extras, and DVDShrink to remove the other stuff. DVD Shringk is free and a lot easier than IfoEdit.

I would use DVDShrink or something similar to remove subtitles, extra languages, all you have to do is uncheck the box.

I am reading the disk to my drive right now, I will see if it is the same format as Miss Congeniality. If it is I will find the guide and let you know.

[Telexen]

I just checked again...there's only one PGC

Thanks for trying it

[wolv6769]

What I meant by multiple titles sets, if you check the Vidoe_TS.ifo file in ifoedit, is VTS_05_XX, in more than one titleset. I checked and it is not, it's only in titleset 1. Unfortunately my brother borrowed my original copy and I only have the back up, without the xtras. So I won't be able to try it for sometime.

If you did a "Get VTS Sectors", and then removed th 06 file, you will get this error. You need to start from the beginning, re-split. You probably did this, but I wanted to make sure we covered all the bases.

Have you tried using a different burning program, like Nero?

[Telexen]

Yeah I did remove the files then used Get VTS Sectors. I'll try it again from the beginning (which I've been doing every time to be safe) just to be sure...I have stuff I need to do while ifoedit does it's thing anyway

I haven't tried using a different burning program...I will this time though if InstantCopy doesn't work.

[Telexen]

Nero complained when I tried to burn it this time too...and it's still saying "List index out of bounds"

This is getting a little annoying

[MackemX]

I'm sure DVDFab works well, but I said I'd like to do it without DVDFab and with IfoEdit because I'm not sure I can have the control over what goes onto the DVD with DVDFab that I can with IfoEdit...though DVDFab should work perfectly with the copy I want of this movie.

I hope this ain't classed as spamming but I feel your pain and frustration so I can't keep my mouth shut any more. I think we have all been there . I got sick of all this manual crap and overcoming issues and I co-designed DVDStripper which allows you to split the DVD and keep EXACTLY what you want on both DVD's by stripping the crap but making it a lot easier for everyone

it's still on special low price, which it will probably stay as it's a fair price I feel due to the lack of trial. Although it ain't free it's saves all the 'free' time you have lost trying to split a DVD for the next time you want to do it

you could use MenuEdit also and blank out the bits you don't want on each DVD as well as modding the menu buttons

your error still looks like your IFO's and VOB's are messed up and they need some TLC to get them back into shape

you will get there eventually though . This is how all the Ifoedit freaks learn so keep at it

[Telexen]

I'd rather not pay for software until I know it's what I want. I'm sure it works very well..but it may not fit my needs, you know?

I've been looking around through VIDEO_TS.IFO and I'm wondering if it's the Titleset listing that's throwing it off. The 6th set of files is Title set 3...and even after doing all the stuff in order I should the IFO still lists it as so...Wouldn't the IFO still thinking that Title Set 3 should be there throw it of when the files for set 3 (VTS_06_x.xxx) aren't there?

[MackemX]

it fits your needs , but I also agree why pay for something if it doesn't suit your needs

If I didnt think it would help then I wouldn't have said anything. If you are trying to split the DVD using the main menu as the split and keep extra and menus then DS does it

PM me (this is only for Telexen due to his issues so nobody else please PM) and you can have a copy to try as I've got no issues with that. It's just I haven't got a trial version so I trust the user to decide if they wish to buy it afterwards when I feel it will benefit their problem

The information will still be in the IFO's as Im sure you cannot remove everything out of a VOB using Ifoedit. How many VTS does the DVD have?

you cannot just remove a VTS (VTS_06_x.VOB's) from the files as this will seriously affect the DVD structure

you need to use the flash guide I have or 2COOL's guides to replace the whole VTS_06_x.VOB's with a blank VOB to keep the structure intact

[Telexen]

I'll definitely think about doing that if I can't get Ifoedit working for me sometime soon...Thanks much for the offer

The movie has 6 VTS sets, here's the directory listing


20,480 VIDEO_TS.BUP
20,480 VIDEO_TS.IFO
1,828,864 VIDEO_TS.VOB
18,432 VTS_01_0.BUP
18,432 VTS_01_0.IFO
229,376 VTS_01_0.VOB
10,240 VTS_01_1.VOB
14,336 VTS_02_0.BUP
14,336 VTS_02_0.IFO
7,931,904 VTS_02_1.VOB
14,336 VTS_03_0.BUP
14,336 VTS_03_0.IFO
12,845,056 VTS_03_1.VOB
32,768 VTS_04_0.BUP
32,768 VTS_04_0.IFO
1,073,709,056 VTS_04_1.VOB
408,401,920 VTS_04_2.VOB
79,872 VTS_05_0.BUP
79,872 VTS_05_0.IFO
60,899,328 VTS_05_0.VOB
1,073,709,056 VTS_05_1.VOB
1,073,709,056 VTS_05_2.VOB
1,073,709,056 VTS_05_3.VOB
1,073,709,056 VTS_05_4.VOB
1,073,709,056 VTS_05_5.VOB
198,010,880 VTS_05_6.VOB
26,624 VTS_06_0.BUP
26,624 VTS_06_0.IFO
1,073,709,056 VTS_06_1.VOB
303,499,264 VTS_06_2.VOB


I thought I could remove the VTS_06_* files and use the Get VTS Sector so the IFO would know it doesn't exist anymore.

I'll look for the tutorial to replace the VOBs and try that out. Thanks again

[MackemX]

thought so , it isn't that easy but these are a few of my guides that should make it easy
Stripping guides
Guide 1
Guide 2

and 2COOL's guides are HERE