does the ati radeon 9800 pro capture video?????

[mazinz]

they have so many versions of the same model, i was wondering does the ati radeon 9800 pro capture video, or would it have to be an "all in wonder" 9800 for it to caputre video? thanks again

[lacywest]

Does it capture video without it being a AIW ... hmmm ... check the features on the box ... at a store near you.

http://designtechnica.pricegrabber.com/search_getprod.php/masterid=973526/search=Radeo...76941de52424c4

Radeon 9800 Pro All-In-Wonder Video Card (128MB, AGP 8X, 2D/3D w/ TV-Out & DVI)

Manufacturer: ATI Part Number: 100713100

Lowest Price: $ 333.00

Rebates: (None)


http://news.designtechnica.com/article172.html

ATI introduces AIW Radeon 9800 PRO
Monday, April 07 @ 09:30:00 PDT

ATI today announced the ALL-IN-WONDER 9800 PRO. The ALL-IN-WONDER 9800 PRO is ideal for home theater applications thanks to EAZYLOOK, an on-screen display for home theater settings.

The ALL-IN-WONDER 9800 PRO includes ATI’s newest powerhouse graphics chip, the RADEON™ 9800 PRO, for outstanding performance with incredible image quality. A 256-bit memory interface and eight powerful pixel pipelines provide real-time, Hollywood-caliber graphics – even for the most demanding next-generation games.

“ATI redefines home entertainment with the ALL-IN-WONDER 9800 PRO,” said Godfrey Cheng, Director of Marketing, Multimedia Products, ATI Technologies Inc. “ATI’s newest multimedia video card sensation, ALL-IN-WONDER 9800 PRO, combines the advantages of the world’s best graphics in the RADEON™ 9800 PRO, with ATI’s THEATER™ 200 video and audio processing chip and our new MULTIMEDIA CENTER 8.5 software suite. The result is a truly entertaining home theater experience.”

http://mirror.ati.com/products/radeon9800/aiw9800pro/features.html

Features
Redefine Home Entertainment
Master a digital universe of TV, DVD and video playback with high definition-ready, on-demand features, supported by wireless remote and a 125 channel Stereo TV tuner
TV-ON-DEMAND™ records programs on your hard drive, pauses live TV and resumes broadcasts on your schedule
Gemstar GUIDE Plus+™ provides interactive programming guides to select, schedule and record favorite shows
THRUVIEW™ creates live, translucent TV, video and DVD windows for easy desktop access
Radio frequency wireless remote adds the flexibility of a hand held, 30 foot user interface
ATI’s new EAZYLOOK™ full-sized programming grid offers theme controls and single click navigation
MulTView™ enables dual TV tuner capabilities including Picture-in-Picture and independent channel surfing*
*Additional ATI TV WONDER™ is required for this to work
Create A Video Masterpiece
Bring personal blockbusters to life with video editing and connectivity tools to share with friends and family at home or over the internet.
Add effects, transitions and sound to videos with Pinnacle Studio™ software
Save projects to VideoCD and DVD formats or output to digital ready television
VideoSoap™ provides filtering techniques that improve sharpness and smooth blurry motion for high quality personal video
Capture pictures and video at up to 30 frames per second.
Output to HDTV ready devices with ALL-IN-WONDER®’s video output component adapter
Cinematic Rendering
Witness feature film visual quality in games and multimedia, the compelling new standard in 3D graphics.
128MB DDR memory to generate the most detailed and immersive gaming experiences without sacrificing frame rates
256-bit memory interface delivers bandwidth for real-time 3D visuals and barrier-free performance
8-pixel pipeline architecture doubles the rendering power of any competing product currently on the market
SMARTSHADER™ 2.1 offers complete DirectX® 9.0 support, enabling cinematic quality lighting effects
SMOOTHVISION™ 2.1 delivers the sharpest, clearest textures
Comprehensive AGP 8X/4X/2X support


You could have found this yourself

[mazinz]

well i had a g-force video card and was unhappy with it (for it's tv out feature). So i went back with an ati and i picked up the first one you mentioned. the box itself doesnt tell you jack sh*t. i did pay a bit over/about 300 for it. I normally use my dazzle dvc 2 (PCI VERSION) to capture, but i wanted to play around with the ati. I noticed their were no inputs on the card and wasnt sure if the output could double function as an input. I went scrolling around a bit on the ati site but it gave no definite answer. It did have the wdm capture driver for download (for my card), so i dled it, but it still doesnt work. It also mentioned the card had to be an "all in wonder" 9800 version, which it does not state anywhere on my box. Mine ust has the radeon 9800 pro 128 on it. After seeing that, i took it that i probably needed another version. And if my version does do capturing it is surely not working. But thank you for the info though.

[Alan69]

But the fact that the box didn't list word one about capture is all that is required to clearly state that it doesn't capture. It also doesn't state that the card is not cabable of launching to orbit or cooking you dinner, these are easily understood by the lack of any mention. Not that there isn't the occasional error where something has an extra feature left off the box, but it's extremely rare to not advertise such a major feature.

Likely the only reason it's mentioned in the manual is because the same manual is used for both cards, just with extra manuals or sections for the AIW card. The AIW card clearly states all over the box how it can tune and capture, if it's in there it's on the box. Drivers are equally meaningless, they try to only make one CD pressing.

[mazinz]

i had that feeling, i just wanted to be sure. thanks again--

[lacywest]

Well ... my first ATI card was the 98 something ... simple video card but I wanted something for video capture.

After class in Fresno CA ... I drove down Blackstone Blvd ... gobs and gobs of stores ... geek paradise ... etc ... etc. Best Buy, CompUSA, Circuit City, The Good Guys, PCClub.

PCClub being my favorite computer parts store.

http://www.pcclub.com/product_detail.cfm?itemno=A3458851

They sell 25 Pack 1X DVD-R 4.7GB Cake Box (Minus)

Item No: A3458851
Manufacturer: Generic ... Shiny Silver ... top and purplish on data side.
Availability: LIMITED .... Price: $24.99*

and right now they have on sale ...

80GB 7200RPM Maxtor IDE Hard Drive ATA133
Item No: A3450889
Manufacturer: Maxtor
Availability: IN STOCK Price: $69.99*
"Price for this item is for on-line ordering only, in-store price may vary"

anyways ... first store I tried was ...

I went into Sparkys Electronics ... they had one Computer Video Card.

It was the ATI Radeon 64 VIVO [video in / video out] for $80 ... $150 at all the other stores ... in a plain white box.

The jacks for VIVO were right there in the back ... no fancy breakout box attachment.

My ATI AIW 7500 ... does have a break out attachment.

So my friend ... your clue for finding video capture features varies but most likely ATI is now using the Breakout corded attachment for connecting audio in and video in.

This feature is pretty visible on the boxes when checking them out.