Performance of my machine (satisfactory??)

[lrama1]

After ripping one of my DVDs for backup,
it usually takes 2 times the length of the
movie to encode using TMPEnc and Sefy's
SeVCD template. Meaning if the movie is
80 min long, it takes 160 min to encode.
I have an Athlon 1.4 , 768MB RAM,
Gigabyte 7DXR Mobo,
one 40gigHDATA100(for encoding), one 60gigHDATA100
(OS and programs).
I'm still unsatisfied with the performance.
Has anybody tried using a DUAL 1GHz pentium
3 or DUAL 1.2GHz Athlon?
PLease post some feedback on what the
performance you're getting. I'm leaning towards
DUAL 1GHz Pentium IIIs but I'm still not sure.

[samyboy]

You are one lucky sole. This weekend it took me 41 hrs to encode 140min movie to std VCD template. I am thinking of building 2 CPU machine, can anybody post their experiances with 2 CPU encoding ?

BTW, I have PIII 450, 384Mb RAM.

[lrama1]

samyboy, if you're going to try a dual cpu machine, try a dual pentium 3 1GHz. I just asked my friend about the
performance of his dual 866 MHz pentium and it was still a bit slower than my Athlon 1.4 system. So maybe making it dual 1GHz pentium3s will be faster than my system.

[hitechjunkie]

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On 2001-09-24 11:08:04, samyboy wrote:
You are one lucky sole. This weekend it took me 41 hrs to encode 140min movie to std VCD template. I am thinking of building 2 CPU machine, can anybody post their experiances with 2 CPU encoding ?

BTW, I have PIII 450, 384Mb RAM.
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41 hours? for a std VCD template? that sounds a bit long. i just did "monkeybone", 93 minutes, to a 352x480 (double the horizontal lines of a standard VCD) MPEG-1, CQ_VBR 0-2100, and it ran all of 15 hours on my amd k6-3 350mhz machine, which means a 140min movie would take only 22.5 hours. u sure that was a std VCD template?

[lhorwinkle]

41 hours seems like an awfully long time for a 2hr 20min movie. Are you using filters during the translation? I found that TMPGEnc can convert AVI to MPEG-1 with the VCD template at 2:1. That would be 4hr 40min for your movie (with NO filters). And that's on my P3/800. That's a bit faster than your P2/450, but not 10x faster.

If I turn on color correction, things slow down quite a bit. So don't, if you can avoid it.

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41 hours? for a std VCD template? that sounds a bit long. i just did "monkeybone", 93 minutes, to a 352x480 (double the horizontal lines of a standard VCD) MPEG-1, CQ_VBR 0-2100, and it ran all of 15 hours on my amd k6-3 350mhz machine, which means a 140min movie would take only 22.5 hours. u sure that was a std VCD template?
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[deltaboy]

WOW people! im running the dual PIII 866 system with 512 RAM. i just did CKY2K last night (65 min) and it took me about 2.5 hrs to convert with PWI. (panasonic). it also took about 2 hrs to prep it in VDub with filters.
TOTAL = appox. 5hrs.

i notice, everything runs at bout 13 frames/sec so that would work out to be just over twice the length of the film/video. with the dual i can easily do 2 movies overnight.

IRAMA1, of course your friends dual 866 wont be as fast as your athalon 1 GHz. that doesnt mean his will go 866 X2, but 866 twice. in other words on the dual system, you can only cap 866, but doing multiple processes would use each proccessor individually. hence, not stealing all you RAM. upgrade the RAM if you can. it cheap! anyway, i hear AMD kills intel in regards to video and such.

[Bullworth]

What are you talking about?! It takes my about 1h50min to encode 20mins of video, even though I do admit I use some very taxing settings to ge the best quality possible.

[pocholin]

Well I have a Dual P3 1 Ghz I encoded 3000 miles to graceland, 125 minutes, using DVDx 1.4 (best options all the way), it took 11 hrs 33 minutes, that program in particular doesn't know how to use the two processors, but the advantage was that I could still use my computer on other tasks such as cd-burning, outlook express, etc with out performance loss on those programs.

I use ligos LSX mpeg encoder 3.5 and it does really good when using the two processors.

You won't regret going to dual processor, just make sure you are using 2000 or XP profesional.

Alfonso

[deltaboy]

i use panasonic to encode. if you use tmpgenc, it will take longer cause of all the added filters. doing a standard encode with no filters takes longer. thats why i do them in vdub.

POCHOLIN, isnt LSX one of the worst encoders for suffering block noise. but i do hear it produces the best colors. what a dilema!!!

[Hiei]

I have a Dual Pentium 3 1GHZ whit 1GB of Ram pc133 2 seagate 20.2 72,000 Raid 0 (Stripping) , 2 40gb seagate for storage , GeForce 2 Ultra,Wintv-fm w/remote,Sound Blaster Live X-Gamer, Plextor 12x10x32,DVD Toshiba 8x is good for encoding , capture and Ripping =)

[samyboy]

lhorwinkle & hitechjunkie, thanks for your pointers. I checked what was I encoding, I had checked on the noise reduction filter. w/o filter it takes around 6 hrs for 1 hr of AVI and with the same filter it takes 20hrs 10 mins. I will make sure next time that no unrequired filters are checked.
You folks might have realized that this is my first VCD. Thanks to others for CPU numbers.

[samyboy]

Hiei, can you publish some numbers for us ? Your hardware config looks great ! Let us know how much time would it take for TmpGEnc to encode at standard VCD with 2 threads ( for 2 CPUs) enabled...

[tinycorkscrew]

System specs:

Dual 1.2 ghz Athlon MPs
Tyan K7 Thunder motherboard
Seagate Cheetah 15k rpm scsi hd
1gb DDR

I mostly encode VCDs and XVCDs, so I can't really comment about how long it usually takes to do SVCDs.

Using TMPGEnc's VCD template on high quality, I can encode at faster than 30 frames a second, so a 90 minute movie takes less than an hour and a half to encode.

TMPGEnc does a great job of using both processors.

[AnnihilatorTokyo]

I have a P4 1.7GHz with 512MB RDRAM, 7200RPM IDE disk and a 90min movie takes 100min using standard VCD template in TMP.

Someone in this forum said Ulead Media Studio 6.5 only took 15min for a 45-50min avi file. Anybody tested? Sounds wonderful!

tinycorkscrew, like your machine!

[WildStyle]

Here's a method i've found useful for HQ divx to VCD
encoding. With VirtualDub convert the divx audio to
a wav. In Tmpg select the divx for video. Instead of
just encoding, select the wav for an audio source.

It knocked 5hrs off my encode's.

PIII 500, 11hrs to 6hrs.

[lrama1]

tinycorkscrew,
have you tried using Sefy's SeVCD template?
How does your system perform using that setting?
By the way, the inputs I give TMPGEnc are the
d2v and wav files. Is your input just a plain
AVI file?
Sorry if I'm asking too many questions, but I've
already spent a considerable amount on building
my system and if I'm going to build a new one,
I want to be sure that it will be my last (well, at least
for a while).

[pocholin]

deltaboy: Well, that is what people say, may be I'm a lucky guy but I never notice any blockyness, that may be because I always use best options even if if take 3 times more. If anybody has LSX and would like my settings for VCD ans SVCD let me know, I'll be happy to post them.

Alfonso

[eyeofbeholder]

Twice the length of the movie is typical for me, too. I have a Athlon 1.2 with 256meg and an Asus A7A266. Yeah, an 80 minute movie takes about 160 minutes to code.

[vbcool]

P4 2gigaherts Converts in 1:1 ratio.
p4 2000 mhz
256 ram
-john

[mypcsbetterthanyours]

OK , since we're all braggin about our nobextensions (PC's)
check out mine then ....
DX4 486, 12Meg RAM , 8xCD
To do a 2 hr movie takes .. hmmmmm
1 year , 47 days & 24.6 mins
So . If i start encoding StarWars Episode 1 today, by the time its done Episode 2 will be out ....

beat that !

[Compound]

P4 1500ghz 256m rim 40g 7200rpm partitioned 10-30 standard vcd default settings close to 1:1 svcd with filters about 1:3

[mypcsbetterthanyours]

You lot need to get out more

[Hiei]

samyboy your ICQ or MSN # for the numbers

[hitechjunkie]

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On 2001-09-25 05:41:20, lrama1 wrote:
Sorry if I'm asking too many questions, but I've
already spent a considerable amount on building
my system and if I'm going to build a new one,
I want to be sure that it will be my last (well, at least
for a while).
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nah, only good for two years at the most, than u gotta upgrade. some upgrade their machines every year!!

[speedy]

Assuming a "fast" Pentium or a AMD T'Bird it is typical to expect processing to take anywhere for 1.5, 2.5, even 3 times the length of the source file you're encoding. So a 30 minute video taking about 75-80 minutes or so is fairly typical. Adjust if you'se using slower processors. The more filters you use along with what quality you select and how high the bitrate all have negative impact on how long the encoding takes. The goal should be best quality, not how long it takes to get encode the video.

[pocholin]

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On 2001-09-26 11:38:43, speedy wrote:
Assuming a "fast" Pentium or a AMD T'Bird it is typical to expect processing to take anywhere for 1.5, 2.5, even 3 times the length of the source file you're encoding. So a 30 minute video taking about 75-80 minutes or so is fairly typical. Adjust if you'se using slower processors. The more filters you use along with what quality you select and how high the bitrate all have negative impact on how long the encoding takes. The goal should be best quality, not how long it takes to get encode the video.

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That is absolutely right, I still wouldn't mind doing it as quick as possible.
It is so much nicer to encode a 19 minutes video in 4 hours than 45 hours.

Alfonso

[TOMMO]

Personally i think your PC is a bit underpowered, - blimey.

LOL

[hitechjunkie]

since i do a lot of encoding to higher rez (352x480), 2 disc XVCDs for my DVD rips, i was wondering what the encode times would be for 90-120 minute movies on those 1Ghz+ machines if you bumped the horizontal lines up to full rez...

[Sefy]

Don't know if anyone cares, but since I do mostly VCD encoding, then here is my spec and how long it takes me to do a full movie:

BOARD: EPoX 8KTA3
CPU: Thunderbird 1000/266
RAM: 384mb PC133 SDRAM
DVD: Pioneer 106S IDE drive
HDD: 2x45gb 5400rpm WDC

Recent encoding of Star Wars - The Phantom Menace which is a 2 hours and 15min movie, took me a total of 5 hours to encode, which was done in two parts, when each 74min approxmiatly took 2 and half hours.

[thegecko]

i got amd t-bird 1 gig, 256 meg ram @ 133mhz, 20 gig ultra wide SCSi card and ibm SCSi HDD

to do predator 1 DVD ripp, useing tmpg standard vcd takes me about 3 hours so im happy,,

yet panasonic encoder takes me about 9 hours,, tmpg always audio out of sync, panasonic,, well im testing it now