Dvd+r won't play but +rw will!

[steventina]

Hi I'm new to thi but i've used the decrypt/shrink/copytoDVD method of copying my dvds they copy fine but when i play the dvd+r's in any other player they don't work. Weird thing is that the same file on a dvd+rw works great. Has anyone ever heard of this?

[chazzie]

Welcome to the wonderful world of DVD-backups! This is one of the problems that can occur when you play them on your standalone player, it might not work, just as -R and +R can work more or less good, the same difference applies to the +R +RW and -R -RW from my experience.

[The other Colin]

Yes, same for me with my Voxson 250. Plays DVD-R, DVD-RW and DVD+RW, but doesn't even think a DVD+R I tried is a disc. (Same DVD+R works fine on my Pioneer 344.)

My writer (Pioneer A06) can't set compatibility bits. My parents bought themselves a Ricoh DVD+R/RW writer recently, so next time I'm there (could be months) I'll try writing a DVD+R, with bits set, and see what happens.

Either way, with my current hardware, I'll just stick to DVD-R's for movie backups.

Colin

[steventina]

Not sure it's the +r's cause i borrowed a movie a friend copied onto a dvd+r and it played fine on my dvd player but my dvd didn't play in his +r recorder

[FulciLives]

Shit ass brand X media will sometimes cause compatability problems like that (work in one player but not another even though both support DVD+R).

So ... what kind of MEDIA are you using?

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

[steventina]

I purchased a six pack of sony dvd+r disks does that have anything to do with it?

[The other Colin]

So ... what kind of MEDIA are you using?

My DVD+R in question is a TDK 4x in a standard jewel case, item code DVD+R47MEB, made in Taiwan. DVD Identifier has this to say about it....


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Unique Disc Identifier : [DVD+R:RICOHJPN-R01-02]
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Disc Type : [DVD+R]
Manufacturer ID : [RICOHJPN]
Media Type ID : [R01]
Product Revision : [02]
Disc Application Code : [General Purpose]
Recording Speeds : [2.4x - 4x]
Blank Disc Capacity : [Not Supported By Method 2]
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[DVD Identifier - http://DVD.Identifier.CDfreaks.com]
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Colin

[fritzi93]

Let's see if we're clear what the problem is. So your Apex player will play a +RW but not +R? If so, the problem may be at least partly due to your Apex. The fact that your +R doesn't play in your friend's player is not definitive proof the burned disc is faulty. Run DVDINFOpro to check the disc for read errors. Although my player is a different model number, it also will play rewritables, both -RW and +RW. Until I upgraded the firmware on my writer, my Apex would not play recordables in either format. Now it WILL play -Rs. 8)

So what to do? See if there are any firmware upgrades available for your writer. Check for updates for your burning app. Try another burn program. If your writer is dual-format, try a DVD-R.

[lacywest]

For fritzi93 and others in this string

I gave about three of the APEX DVD Players AD-1010 ... for my friends last Christmas 2002 and reports came back they wont play DVD+Rs.

Wierd is ... I loaned Die Another Day burnt on a DVD+RW and my lady friend said nothing but ... nice job after she watched the movie.

It was a compulation made with TMPGEnc DVD Author ... the movie and the Madonna music videos were added to it.

Now I use DVDShrink to add the music videos from Disk 2.

So ... yes .... DVD+Rs ... can be a pain in the butt.

[steventina]

Here is what dvdinfopro shows
Media Information
Region information N/A not a DVD-VIDEO
Media code/Manufacturer ID RICOHJPNR01
Format Capacity Not Formatted
Free Blocks 405405696
Free Capacity 4.38GB(4.70GB)
Book Type DVD+R
Media Type DVD+R
Media Id Code Speed 4.0x 5540KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 4.0x 5540KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 2.4x 3324KBps
Data area starting sector 30000h
Linear Density 0.267um/bit
Track Density 0.74um/track
Number of Layers 1

[fritzi93]

Hate to tell ya, but it sure looks like a blank disc. I'm guessing you didn't try it on your computer first?

[steventina]

How's this?

Disc Regions are 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8
Media code/Manufacturer ID RICOHJPNR01
Format Type UDF 1.02
Volume Name VIDEO_T_20031214
Application id
Implementation id VSO Software
Recording Date/Time (mm/dd/yyyy) 12/14/2003 10:09:11
Format Capacity 4.23GB(4.54GB)
Book Type DVD+R
Media Type DVD+R
Media Id Code Speed 4.0x 5540KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 4.0x 5540KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 2.4x 3324KBps
Data area starting sector 30000h
Data area end sector 21D5EFh
Linear Density 0.267um/bit
Track Density 0.74um/track
Number of Layers 1

[SARK]

My old LG player (LG 5083) can only play +RW, I've read some stories that some people were able to play -R and +R but I never got it up and running (no matter what brand, el cheapo's and top brands). In the end I bought a new player cuz I got tired of messing around with all kind of programmes and settings, and above all ... so many coasters.