Sorry yet another SubTitle question

[cchitson11]

I don't like using ifoedit. I always seem to have to strange results withit. I prefer to rip /re-encode/and author with Dvdmeastro. Well the problem I'm having is with subtitles in Dvdmaestro.

First Question: Is there a Subripping program that works well with Maestro? I have tried Subrip and the sutitles seem to fall out of synch when loaded in Maestro. I know this has some thing to with framerate but I tried all the settings in Subrip I can think of.

Second Question: For people who do not use ifoedit, and reauthor Dvd. How do you handle forced subs? do you go thru and manually force each one that should automatically show or is there a subripping program that does this for you.

Any help will be greatly appreciated

[cchitson11]

Ok I know alot peoble use Dvd maestro. and I know people have backed Dvd's which have subtitles as a sub pictures instead of permanantly in the video. What program do people us to rip the subs that works well with Dvdmaestro. Any Ideas?

[Adder_78]

Ok I know alot peoble use Dvd maestro. and I know people have backed Dvd's which have subtitles as a sub pictures instead of permanantly in the video. What program do people us to rip the subs that works well with Dvdmaestro. Any Ideas?

I have use SubRip and DVDmaestro without any problems... (I use only PAL dvd's)

Have you try/read Doom9's DVD-9 to DVD-5 "Full Copy" Instructions?
Maybe that would solve your problem?

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[misterchuckles]

Hey cchitson11 -

I'm having the same issue. I did find this note in subrip's documentation, though I haven't gotten it to work either. Also this explains why the previous response regarding PAL conversion makes sense.

**Taken from subrip 1.17.1 documentation:


FreQuent PrOblem #1 - NTSC sync:
- Problem: "Whenever I downsample a DVD9 movie, I have a M2V file and I use pulldown to make another M2V with which to import subtitles
correctly. This syncs them just fine, but I cannot use the same method
for DVD5's. SubRip's subtitles just won't sync when I'm using an
un-transcoded M2V stream."

- Solution - Excerption from PULLDOWN v0.99d readme:
"The drop_frame_flag is not used during playback; however, I have
discovered that DVDMaestro and Scenarist use this flag to synchronize
subtitles in 29.97fps streams. If you set this flag to true then you
can mux your subtitle streams from MaestroSBT or ScriptConverter
without problems. This flag is required for proper subtitle sync on
progressive, hybrid or interlaced 29.97fps streams. PAL, of course,
does not have this problem."
- Example usage for a 29.97 int or hybrid source stream:
pulldown source.m2v target.m2v -nopulldown -drop_frame true

Drop Frame (NTSC only): SubRip adds NON_DROP or DROP flag to header
of output file. When checked, then in addition some timecode
corrections are done (info from Brain: For NTSC Dropframe
timecodes, the following timecodes do not exist: Frame 0 and 1 of
each minute, except for 0, 10, 20, 30, 40 and 50 minutes.).
Nothing more, so no FPS change or anything else!

According to McPoodle's page:
Both are 29.97 frames per second, but dropframe timebase accomplishes
the fractional framerate by using 30 frames per second and skipping
the first two frames each minute for nine out of every ten minutes
(non-dropframe timebase simply runs the clock at exactly 29.97 frames
per second). Use the same format you encoded your video with. Here's
a hint: if it came from a broadcast source, it's probably dropframe,
while if you created it from scratch, it's probably non-dropframe.




I'm not able to get this working though. If you've come across any ideas since your original post, please let me know.,

Cheers,

Chaz