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    I'm under the impression that the + format is better that the - format mostly because it can be played on more DVD players. I'm basing my final purchase of a DVD recorder on it having a + format. Does it really make much difference? I'd probably buy the Panasonic E80 if I have the wrong impression. Thanks
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    get a multiformat dude, - and + have been discussed forever, if u want my advice i'd get multiformat so u can make ur own decision
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  3. DVD-R is slightly more compatible than DVD+R actually. The advantage of DVD+ is that DVD+RW discs can be edited after recording and play in a majority of ordinary players.

    I'd recommend the E80 though as you have a hard disk on which to make all your edits before committing to dvd-r.

    The Panasonic machines have a reputation for quality and reliability not matched elsewhere. The drawback is they use DVD-RAM for re-writeable media which is not compatible with most dvd players. DVD-RAM is an excellent format in its own right; however, with the E80 you'll probably only use the hard drive and dvd-r media.

    In the standalone recorder market, only the Sony has + and - support. + support is an afterthought though.
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    Anyone want to take bets on how soon people will start whipping out their Johnsons and engaging in a royal pissing contest?
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  5. Originally Posted by bobones
    DVD-R is slightly more compatible than DVD+R actually. The advantage of DVD+ is that DVD+RW discs can be edited after recording and play in a majority of ordinary players.
    Same can be done with DVD-RW too. I wouldn't talk about majority... or if... then DVD-RW will play on majority players. :P

    If you do search on this site you will get:

    +RW = 1277
    -RW = 1285
    +RW and -RW = 942

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  6. The + format is better and plays on more players? You musta got that from a Circuit City salesman. One told me that a few weeks ago. :P Do a search, you'll get plenty to read, or are you just trying to stir the pot?
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  7. Same can be done with DVD-RW too. I wouldn't talk about majority... or if... then DVD-RW will play on majority players.
    DVD-RW can be either compatible (video mode) or editable (VR mode), but not both. The choice has to be made before you burn.
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    Here wo go again !

    Get one that reads both - make your own mind up.
    If in doubt, Google it.
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    they're both better than vhs, case closed
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    Originally Posted by MJPollard
    Anyone want to take bets on how soon people will start whipping out their Johnsons and engaging in a royal pissing contest?
    Hmmm... 44 minutes between my post and donpedro's. Didn't take long, did it? Next time, though, I expect better! 44 minutes is sloppy! C'mon, guys, you're slipping! :P
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  12. Originally Posted by MJPollard
    Originally Posted by MJPollard
    Anyone want to take bets on how soon people will start whipping out their Johnsons and engaging in a royal pissing contest?
    Hmmm... 44 minutes between my post and donpedro's. Didn't take long, did it? Next time, though, I expect better! 44 minutes is sloppy! C'mon, guys, you're slipping! :P
    This is not off-topic forum
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  13. There is a mintek that burner's all format's for $300.00 dollars's and read's ever format even SVCD. Do not kow how good it is see them selling it on Home shopping network
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  14. To all the smart arses on this thread - we're talking about standalone recorders, not freeking PC burners where you can just go out and buy a dual format drive. If you've nothing valuable to add, just STFU!
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  15. Originally Posted by SonnyV
    I'm under the impression that the + format is better that the - format mostly because it can be played on more DVD players. I'm basing my final purchase of a DVD recorder on it having a + format. Does it really make much difference? I'd probably buy the Panasonic E80 if I have the wrong impression. Thanks
    Sonny,

    OK, here's a totally relevant, direct answer to your question.

    Results may vary just a tiny bit, but it's entirely safe to say that DVD-R and DVD+R discs should play just fine in "most" home DVD players. If one works in a few more players than the other, it is just that -- a very few. Choose whatever machine you want, and consider the format totally irrelevant.

    DVD-R is supposedly quite a bit more compatible with "computer DVD-ROM drives" than DVD+R, so if your intent is to play that DVD disc you made in a computer drive, there's a clear advantage to DVD-R.

    DVD-RAM, DVD-RW, and DVD+RW are NOT compatible with "most" home DVD players or computer DVD-ROM drives -- it's not a safe bet at all that you could, say, hand one of these to a friend or family member, and expect it to work in whatever they've got. On the other hand, if you have, or go out and specifically get, something that'll work with one or more of these, then move forward accordingly.

    In the end, any advice that DVD+R is more compatible than DVD-R, or vice versa, especially when just talking about "home DVD players," does indeed sound like "sales droid advice" from some guy who would probably make a bigger commission on the machine he's pushing. Pay it no mind, and get whatever you like the best!

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    If you own a standalone dvd player and want to play your burnt dvd's on it, you should find out if it can play + or - dvd's. If it can play both, then
    just flip a coin. Both formats are good.
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    I chose by editing features, Fast, quick & easy deleting of TV ads.

    I don't want to spend hours converting mp2 > avi and then avi > mp2
    to do that.

    I chose Cyberhome because:
    1 Make chapters of ads
    2 make them hidden
    3 copy VOBs to any dvdr using Nero6

    Following post did it for me:
    https://www.videohelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=193511&highlight=cyberhome
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    Originally Posted by thoots
    DVD-R is supposedly quite a bit more compatible with "computer DVD-ROM drives" than DVD+R, so if your intent is to play that DVD disc you made in a computer drive, there's a clear advantage to DVD-R.
    I think you've got that mixed up a bit. DVD-R is a slightly more compatible DVD-Video format, regardless of whether it is read in a DVD-ROM or set-top DVD-Video player.
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  19. Originally Posted by lordsmurf
    Originally Posted by thoots
    DVD-R is supposedly quite a bit more compatible with "computer DVD-ROM drives" than DVD+R, so if your intent is to play that DVD disc you made in a computer drive, there's a clear advantage to DVD-R.
    I think you've got that mixed up a bit. DVD-R is a slightly more compatible DVD-Video format, regardless of whether it is read in a DVD-ROM or set-top DVD-Video player.
    No it is not mixed up. If you need to read DVD (video or data) on PC. There is much higher chance that you will be successfull wit -R and very high chance that +R will not work on most DVD-ROM drives. When I needed to copy data from +R to PC my score was 6 diff.drives did not read and 0 did read. So you can run into same issue if you need to read DVD Video on PC burned on DVD+R.
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    That's opposite of the intended usage though, where DVD+R was initially designed for data and DVD-R has always been for DVD-Video. That's all I've ever seen. I know of at least two drives (DVD-ROM) units that reject DVD-R but will see DVD+R. And inversely, I currently own two players that reject all DVD+R media, but will read any DVD-R. And these instances are not fixed by bitsetting.
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  21. Originally Posted by lordsmurf
    That's opposite of the intended usage though, where DVD+R was initially designed for data and DVD-R has always been for DVD-Video. That's all I've ever seen. I know of at least two drives (DVD-ROM) units that reject DVD-R but will see DVD+R. And inversely, I currently own two players that reject all DVD+R media, but will read any DVD-R. And these instances are not fixed by bitsetting.
    It seems pointless Everybody have different experience. Mine is 6:0 (-/+) on PC DVD-ROM drives. What is your score (don't tell me 0:2 ).
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    Originally Posted by donpedro
    What is your score (don't tell me 0:2 ).
    Two cheap ROM drives only took DVD+R and DVD+RW ... about 7 drives took both formats and the RW formats ...

    The player stats are reversed, with most players taking only DVD-R and choking on all others
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