.avi with ac3 to dvd...newbie way

[PhoenixL]

How to burn my .avi with ac3 audio to dvd...ive spent 3 or more hours on the guides.

Just tell me what program...tell me wat to do. or if u find me a guide that says SPECIFIC instructions on a .avi with 23.97 fps and ac3 audio and shows complete instructions plz help.

[Tommyknocker]

Did you try this guide yet?

[yf2001usa]

Here is what you need:

• tmpgenc
  virtualdub
  besweet
  maestro or dvdlab

Here is what you do:

• 1. open the avi in virtualdub.
  2. save the audio with the option save wav under file menu
  3. under audio select no audio
  4. under video select direct stream copy
  5. then select frame rate under video menu. put in 25.000 change to. (you need to convert to PAL i don't know if NTSC will work but 23,976 isn't a framerate DVD supports)
  6. go here to find the right settings for tmpgenc and here to find the other settings for tmpgenc.
  7. run tmpgenc to create the video .m2v
  8. open the audio wav in besweet.
  9. convert the .wav to Wave-Stereo
  10. convert the new .wav to Wave Stereo again but now select the option Presents: NTSC -> PAL (23.976 to 25.000).
  11. then convert the new .wav to ac3 (remeber the bitrate you gave on the website cause else it won't fit)
  12. now you got a .m2v and a .ac3 file these you can load in to dvdlab or maestro to author a dvd. or any other dvd author you like.

This isn't a easy guide but creating a dvd isn't a easy sport.

Yf

[PhoenixL]

Yes ive tried that guide tommyknocker....


Yf thx for ur time writing that, ill start trying it out soon and get back to u.

[PhoenixL]

yf what do i do between steps 5 and 6...whats the point of switching audio to no audio and video to direct stream and settings change to 25.000 if im just gonna go straight to tmpg...maybe theres something im suppose to 'know' and do but im a newbie so explain plz .

Also, dvd players cant play videos 23.976 frame rate? when changing to 25 will it lose quality? And i thought PAL was for other countries but NTSC for us and uk?

Another question, why change the audio in the avi, which is ac3, to wav, and back to ac3?

Sry for questions but nice to konw
anyone else besides yf that knows answers feel free to post

[yf2001usa]

ok here it goes.

you can make 3 kinds of vcd or svcd Pal (25), NTSC (29,97) and NTSC Film (23,976) but there are only 2 kinds of dvd Pal (25) or NTSC (29,97). So if you want to create a DVD from a NTSC Film source you need to do something about you FPS. You can try keeping it 23,976 but there isn't a author program that is going to let you author a dvd with a fps of 23,976. So you need to go to PAL or NTSC. I only know it is better to got to PAL cause you loose less.

Now to why you go to 25 fps in virtualdub with only the video cause it is better to go to 25 fps with the audio in besweet.

Why not keep the audio ac3 and go to 25 fps with besweet cause the your audio is getting static. It is better to do a 3 way conversion from ac3 -> wav, wav 23,976 -> wav 25, wav 25 -> ac3. You'll loose your 5 channel sound if your avi did have it but you have clean sound. If you do it ac3 23,976 -> ac3 25 then you will have static. And belief me i tried it a few times i can't find another way.

So if your dvd or tv only plays NTSC then your best bet would be converting to SVCD and put the SVCDs on DVD with SVCD2DVDMPG+ or DVD Lab. But your quality more poor then

[PhoenixL]

thx for explanation, that helped alot...just 1 thing- when i said its missing a step between 5 and 6 i meant do i press save as avi or something after setting the video settings

[yf2001usa]

save as avi is the right option.

[PhoenixL]

ughh for some reason i dont think im using besweet right...the elapsed time is like 1 second heh...tried looking for guide but couldnt find one

[funkguy4]

You can do 23.976 fps DVDs if you put a 3:2 pulldown flag. Also, I think if you have AC3 audio, you wanna keep it AC3 cuz it's better. As for the video, try the KDVD template for KVCD.net, I loved it. Here's the steps and stuff you need:

TMPGEnc
VirtualDubMod
TMPGEnc DVD Author or DVDLab

Open your source .avi in VirtualDubMod and demux your ac3 stream to somewhere. Then, frameserve the file into TMPGEnc, making sure your frame resolution is 720x480 (letterboxed or not). In TMPGEnc, encode video only, using the KDVD template. After this is done, load up your *.m2v file into your authoring program. Also, load your source *.ac3 stream. AUTHOR AS YOU WISH! :P

[yf2001usa]

the only problem i have with the pulldown is that i can see some shocking in the picture some times.

[funkguy4]

REALLY?! Well, neither I, my friends, nor the pulldown DVDs from Blockbuster have this problem! I have actually converted DV from my home camera to 23.976 fps with pulldown and there was no shockiness....I gues it depends on the amount of motion in the source video.
:P

[ching0]

i dunno if anyone else does this with the audio...
but if audio is VBR or AC3 in the avi, i save the wav, open it in CDex, which you can get from sourceforge, then i strip the RIFF-WAV header, and then i decompress from mp3 to full wav. i dunno, it just seems easier for me than most of the other programs i've tried.

[funkguy4]

ching.....1 word......NO!

If it's AC3, you should use VirtualDubMod to demux it (easier than whatever you said)

If it's something else (i.e.: MP3, than just Full Procesing Mode in VDub to a WAV)

[ching0]

yeah, but virtualdub doesnt do mp3s with a variable bitrate, and i've had troubles with VDubMod and AC3 audio. dunno why.

[funkguy4]

If you use VDub to Full Proces an MP3 Stream, then yes, it does process MP3. As for the AC3, he just needs to demux it using VirtualDubMod, which does work with AC3 audio properly. Then, off to encoding the video, use the originally demuxed audio from VDubMod as the audio on the DVD and VOILA! (trust me, i've done it with MP3 and AC3 before)

I don't know about your troubles.....I gues you're just special!

[ching0]

here's an example:

i have the recruit, which i ripped to divx two weeks ago.
if i wanted to make a vcd, and i drop it into VDubMod:


you say yes, the audio gets outta sync to the positive, you say no, it gets outta sync to the negative.

reason being: virtualdubmod doesnt go "hey, its 96kbit/s here, and 128 here! i'll just uncompress it!" istead, it like compensates by adding enough frames in the audio so its all evened out, and it screws it up.

so you see, thats exactly what virtualdub tells you to do, except, if you extract the wav from virtualdubmod, and try to uncompress it with it, it's still gonna do the same thing. at least mine does. i dunno if there's a newer version or whatnot.

[funkguy4]

Mine just tells me that it will be out of sync, it doesn't offer to rewrite the header. Then, I just go Full Process it to uncompressed WAV, and when it does this it won't be desynced. BTW, I use an older version (VirtualDub 1.4.10) since it's the most stable for me.

[ching0]

aye, well if you upgrade vdubmod, lemme know if it gets outta sync. cuz, it's had me baffled for... months. for a while (about 8 months) i had no internet, or tv or anything. so all i'd do is skateboard and sit at home ripping my dvds. like.. every night. one week, i swear, i encoded ONE movie a dfferent way every night, and every day i was at work. so, like 14 different tries on audio and video. so i've tried like every program on the tools section in this page, and everyone on www.divx-digest.com and still, nothing seemed to work better.

[funkguy4]

Ching, man.......I don't know where to start............

[PhoenixL]

Where do i change the resolution and make sure its letterboxed---this is wat funky wants me to do b4 frameserv

[funkguy4]

Dude, check out my AVI -> thingy guide down below.

Also, try the frame size calc, it should tell u what you want.

[PhoenixL]

ok im making my video only mpeg2 . now all i would need to do is add .ac3 with besweet right? u wouldnt happen to havea guide on that would u?

Anyways, thx for that guide,first simple one i c but maybe some help on besweet. and nice avatar u changed heh

[funkguy4]

Yeah, it's just funny the way cows look at people, it's almost like they're not looking at you directly! Reminds me of Crazyeyes from Mr. Deeds....lol


Decompress audio to WAV. To get AC3 from BeSweet, use the BeSweet GUI and go from WAV to AC3. 160kbps should be high enough, if you have the available space, bump it up to 192kbps. Damn, I need to make so many more guides.....

[PhoenixL]

um hmm why dont u just make a guide cuz i would have to explore for my self about decompressin and stuff

[funkguy4]

um hmm why dont u just make a guide cuz i would have to explore for my self about decompressin and stuff

So you're lazy huh? did it ever strike you that the same may be the case with me. I only made my AVI guide because so many people were asking me about how to do this and that on my AIM and MSN accounts.

[PhoenixL]

lol no i will try to do it my self but also remember this is the newbie forum and so far ive done everything u said and right hopefully and for me to mess it up on this last step could add more weeks, ive already spent 1 month atleast and i just wanted to finish off with ur steps to do it right but ill take a look at it and see wat i can do.

[macleod]

why don't you try dvd2svcd from www.dvd2svcd.org. It sounds like you already have the encoder (TMPGENC or CCE). With a couple of clicks you can do the conversion without having to be an expert in all the seperate apps. At the very least, you can do it with the app and then go back through to learn the ins and outs of it.

Here is what you do to get the avi to DVD.

Change the option in the (i believe) conversion tab from DVD to avi.

Then make it is set to mpeg 2.

Click on the advanced tab and then go to the framserver tab and change the resolution to whatever you want it to be (if its dvd, try 352x480 unless your avi is actually dvd spec size (ie 720x480).

Go to the encoder tab, check advanced (I am doing this for CCE) and check DVD compliant OR change the ranges to 4,2,1 respectively (or do both).

go to the audio tab and uncheck downsample to 44.1.

Go to the image or iauthor tab that has the title picture options and change it to dont make images.

Convert the movie.

Load it into an app like movie factory 2 and author it.

Burn it to DVD and watch it.

[PhoenixL]

i already converted the video only, now im working on the ac3 with besweet it looks like.

[funkguy4]

why don't you try dvd2svcd from www.dvd2svcd.org.

Ths app doesn't give me the control I need.