DVD/Playstation

[schokid02]

I know this is a video forum, but hopefully since it's a Mac section someone can help. I can backup my DVDs just fine and was wondering if anyone knows how to backup Playstation/Xbox games. Is it anything like backing up DVDs? I haven't found anything that explains how to backup games from either platform using a Mac. Can anyone help?

[galactica]

Per the great PS2DADDY

"Caution: making dvd-rips for the ps2 is not for the faint at heart and you also can do this in a pc only environment right now cant be done directly on a mac

You have to downsample either the video or audio or leave some video or audio out.

You need special tools to edit the files and replace them in the right order and add dummy files on some games its too much hassle I think but to each his own. Most of the times it is cut scene videos that are deleted and dummy files erased

Then if you dont have good no swap modchip like the messiah 2 or DMS3 (tons of others out there these are just some of the best) then you cant play the games. No solder mod or knife trick wont work on a lot of these
Unless you patch them.

The patches can be found a few places on the internet

The reason no solder mod wont play these games are that there are table of content issues and depending on the boot disk you cant play certain dvd-rs unless you have other disks with means at least 4 swaps vefore you can play a game)

For around $200 (a good price for a reliable dvd burner) you can make a DVD backup in less than 45 minutes versus the weeks of learning how to make dvd-rips and the hours and days that you will spend even after you have the process down pat

Also now people are making DVD-9 Rips
They split it up onto 2 dvd-rs or they downsample or leave out video or audio to make it DVD 5 DVD-R"

[fab98]

EDIT: Never Mind

didnt realize you were trying to fit it on a CD

[galactica]

He's trying to get them to dvd.
Which is doable on PC, but not on mac at the moment

[fab98]

Oh... then its super simple
1) Put in PS 2 disc
2) Hit Copy in Toast
3) Place in Blank DVD-R (or cd if it is a cd game)
4) burn

of course you need a mod chip or a Flip-top (swap trick). there is no ps2 game i have ever heard of that needs downsampling or any "trick".

[mybook4]

I have copied PS2 games on my ibook with a firewire dvr-104. Use Disc Copy to make an image and then burn the image. It works every time granted that you have media that the ps2 will read well.

P.S. Galactica was talking about DVD rips for ps2 games, which is when you try to fit a dvd original to a cd-r. If you have a dvd burner and a good modchip, then you dont even have to mess with that. Dvd ripping relates back to the early days of ps2 modding, when some of the chips wouldn't play dvd-r's. All the good chips support dvd-r's. It has to do with the TOC that the chip tricks the ps2 with.

[WiseWeasel]

Yes, I can confirm that fab98's method works swell. Just put Toast in Copy mode, with the ps2 game in the dvd drive, and if you only have a single DVD drive, select 'Save as Disc Image' in the 'File' menu. Then, when it's done, put Toast in 'Disc Image' mode in the 'Other' section, drag the .toast image over Toast's window, and record to a new DVD-R. If you have multiple dvd drives, put the ps2 game in the DVD-ROM drive, and a blank in the DVD-RW drive, and just use the Copy function from one DVD to another. If you want to shrink the games to fit on CD-R, here are some resources, though you will need a Windows PC, or VirtualPC:
http://www.ps2rippininfo.btinternet.co.uk/index1.htm

[ps2daddy]

Yeah, rips are no fun to do the are a "booger bear" (I probably typed too much about those already)

Sorry for all my long posts I try to be pretty thorough
but dvd to dvd-r is very easy

Fab98 gave a great explanation
You stick it in and hit copy pretty much

Note: I would say about 30% of PS2 games are CD and 70% DVD
Also note the 98% of any new game that comes out will be on DVD

Here is a complete guide for those that sill might have questions that I typed up for anyone that wants to see

For PS2

For those that need help with a mac
You need to use Toast Titanium 5.01 or higher

PS2 CD-R's

Open toast

If you just have a CD-RW and want to save it to your drive first

1. Select image copy (third option from the left at the top of the toast window)
2. insert CD game
3. Select "Save as image " under the file menu
4. Double Click on the image then Record image

(note you must have enough space on your hard drive to do this)

or

If you just have a CD-RW and want to just burn it

1. Select image copy
2. insert CD game
3. Click on record
it will ask you to place in a blank CD-R When ready

(note you must have enough space on your hard drive to do this)

If you have a CD-RW and CD-Rom drive and want to copy on the fly

1. Select image copy
2. Drag CD to window
3. Click on record


If your cds are scratched there is a differnt method lemme
know if you have problems
Try burniing at a slower speed

How to make an image using astarte

1. Insert the disk and click on the “select all button” then hit save.

2. Make sure your preferences look like my attachment I included


How to patch games

Obtain PPF-o-Matic for the mac goto http://www.psxcopyworld.com
Obtain the required patch from that same site look in the psx patches and utilities sections

1. Open the program and select the Astarte iso you just created
2. Select the patch it is the file that has .ppf on the end
3. Click on apply patch



How to burn PS Game with audio tracks

1. Open toast 5 and select the “others” file cabinet in the top of the Toast window
2. Do a right click and select “Multitrack CD-Rom XA”
3. Then click on select and pick the iso file then click on “Add” repeat for each audio file and make sure that you put them in order
4. Select Record

Without Audio Tracks

1. Just double click on your Astarte image and it will put everything in the correct format in Toast Titanium 5 and click record

How to do DVD’s

For those that need help with a mac

You need to use Toast Titanium 5.01 or 5.02
Open toast

If you just have a superdrive and want to save it to your drive first

1. Select image copy
2. insert DVD game
3. Save as image
4. Record image (don't use burnproof)

(note you must have enough space on your hard drive to do this)

or

If you just have a superdrive and want to just burn it

1. Select image copy
2. insert DVD game
3. Click on record
it will ask you to place in a blank DVD-R When ready

(note you must have enough space on your hard drive to do this)


If you have a DVD-RW and DVD-Rom drive and you want to copy on the fly

1. Select image copy
2. Drag DVD to window
3. Click on record

For X-box

I found this one and I have an x-box that I am repairing and going to start this one soon

After you get a chip and install the Evox dashboard
You have to be able to network your x-box and mac via ftp then create an xiso image then use toast to burn the image

http://www.xbox-scene.com/articles/macosx-backup.php

http://www.xbox-scene.com/ is about the most complete site for x-box stuff I have seen.

Also not all X-Box games can be copied to a dvd-5 without ripping since some are dvd-9's

The PS2 has about 5 games (2 in us and 3 others in japan) and x-box has a lot more I dont know how many exactly

[ps2daddy]

He's trying to get them to dvd.
Which is doable on PC, but not on mac at the moment

Straight dvd-r copies are easy but dvd-rips are not fun sorry that I didnt make myself clear on that on that Galactica

[galactica]

Not a problem. Just figured I read you say

"Caution: making dvd-rips for the ps2 is not for the faint at heart and you also can do this in a pc only environment right now cant be done directly on a mac " and assumed this was not possible on a mac.

Dont have a ps2 so im glad it can be done incase i ever get one

so to set the record, those that fit onto dvd5 will work. but the dvd9 ones cant be done on a mac??

[ps2daddy]

Not a problem. Just figured I read you say

"Caution: making dvd-rips for the ps2 is not for the faint at heart and you also can do this in a pc only environment right now cant be done directly on a mac " and assumed this was not possible on a mac.

Dont have a ps2 so im glad it can be done incase i ever get one

so to set the record, those that fit onto dvd5 will work. but the dvd9 ones cant be done on a mac??

PS2 DVD-Rips (defined as a dvd that had been copied onto a cd in the PS2 world)
I know that dvd movies that are place onto dvd-r are called rips for video guys PS2 people are kinda strange and we have to change the names of stuff just because.

Should be called PS2CD like a VCD but then people would confuse it with another PS2 CD-R normal game instead of a PS2 dvd-rip

You got it dvd-5's are just like copying cd's

You can dvd-9 ripping on a pc to make it a dvd-5 and save the files to a mac then burn it but all the programs you need to rip are on the PC though. (Virtual PC might be able to be used for the PC software and then you can swithc over to the mac side for burning never tried this to say for certain though)

[galactica]

I know that dvd movies that are place onto dvd-r are called rips for video guys PS2 people are kinda strange and we have to change the names of stuff just because.

Ahhh now i see where the confusion came from.
Thanks for setting me straight.

[kamikaze]

I've never heard of DVD-9 games for the PS2. I've never had any issues with a game yet, going to DVD-5. Really, i can't see the need for DVD-9. Any game that needs more than 4.7GB of space is simply SICK. Cut the cinematics down! That's what hollywood is for.

But yeah, i think a lot of games are so surprisingly big because they just have an unlimited amount of music in them ( you know how much music is in GTA: Vice City? )

Anyways. Just my two cents!

Peace

[ps2daddy]

I've never heard of DVD-9 games for the PS2. I've never had any issues with a game yet, going to DVD-5. Really, i can't see the need for DVD-9. Any game that needs more than 4.7GB of space is simply SICK. Cut the cinematics down! That's what hollywood is for.

But yeah, i think a lot of games are so surprisingly big because they just have an unlimited amount of music in them ( you know how much music is in GTA: Vice City? )

Anyways. Just my two cents!

Peace

I understand
Xenosaga and metal gear solid 2ubtance are both dvd-9
only 2 in us so far there are 3 more in japan.

I agree but if they make the games dvd 9 then most people wont go through the trouble of trying to figure out how to copy it

they cost more money to produce so I doubt if most games will be dvd 9 in the future but only time will tell

[galactica]

Think of the day when Computer games will be on DVD.
It may not be too far off, if it hasnt happened already!

I know there are some that have like 4-5 cd's involved, so its only a matter of time i think.

[ps2daddy]

Think of the day when Computer games will be on DVD.
It may not be too far off, if it hasnt happened already!

I know there are some that have like 4-5 cd's involved, so its only a matter of time i think.

One good thing about computer games is that if you can make a valid iso image then you can mount them on your desktop and run them. (like a dvd movie image using toast that can be remounted)

So if you can get an image you can use a compression program to segment it in good size chunks (like 4-5 cds) and then recreate and remount it when every you need to use it without having to do this crazy splitting and rearranging the dvd check and file order or downsampling junk though.

Makes life a lot easier than the PS2 thank goodness

Hard drives are a wonderful thing

PS2 Hard drives dont allow you to save game iso images (as of yet and the HD is only out in Japan unless you buy a linix kit)

The x-box allows you to backup your game iso images to the internal hardrive and you can put up to a 140GB harddrive inside too!

[galactica]

One good thing about computer games is that if you can make a valid iso image then you can mount them on your desktop and run them. (like a dvd movie image using toast that can be remounted)

Doable, yes. Works for all - NO! More and more of the newer games have some sort of physical awareness that requires a cd to actually be in the drive!

I prefer to play computer games off images, because the game plays faster when read from HD than from CD.

Just got Unreal Tournament 2003 for mac, couldnt wait! installed it, imaged the 2nd disk (play disk) and mounted it!

DOH! says it nees to be in the drive physically!

[ps2daddy]

One good thing about computer games is that if you can make a valid iso image then you can mount them on your desktop and run them. (like a dvd movie image using toast that can be remounted)

Doable, yes. Works for all - NO! More and more of the newer games have some sort of physical awareness that requires a cd to actually be in the drive!

I prefer to play computer games off images, because the game plays faster when read from HD than from CD.

Just got Unreal Tournament 2003 for mac, couldnt wait! installed it, imaged the 2nd disk (play disk) and mounted it!

DOH! says it nees to be in the drive physically!

For some games they have patches to by-passs this like the f1 Racing
you can find some patches at www.megagames.com if I am not mistaken

You can use a program called ppf-o-matic and click on the the patch and the image and hit "ok"

[galactica]

sweet.
ill check it out.

[ps2daddy]

sweet.
ill check it out.

I run across some patches from time to time also

[kagharaht]

There must be more to it than that right? You mean, I can stick my PS2 game in my Mac with a Superdrive and using Toast, I can make a working backup just by clicking record in Toast? I would like to try it but I don't want to waste a DVDr... Did I miss something or is it really that simple? Thanks.

[galactica]

There must be more to it than that right? You mean, I can stick my PS2 game in my Mac with a Superdrive and using Toast, I can make a working backup just by clicking record in Toast? I would like to try it but I don't want to waste a DVDr... Did I miss something or is it really that simple? Thanks.

well, if you have only one drive that reads dvdr then you cant just click RECORD, cause it will spit out the ps2 game and then ask for blank disk.

If you have 2 drives, one able to read dvd, the other able to burn dvd:
Put ps2 game in dvd reading drive, but blank dvdr into dvd burning drive, go to COPY, choose the READ FROM DRIVE, as your dvd rom, then click burn.

If you dont have 2 drive, then go to copy, choose READ FROM DRIVE as your drive, then go to FILE SAVE AS DISK IMAGE, and save it your hd.
when done, double click on image and then put in dvdr and burn

did it for a few friends disks after getting the how to from ps2daddy and it works great!

[ps2daddy]

There must be more to it than that right? You mean, I can stick my PS2 game in my Mac with a Superdrive and using Toast, I can make a working backup just by clicking record in Toast? I would like to try it but I don't want to waste a DVDr... Did I miss something or is it really that simple? Thanks.

Its that easy just remeber that you will have to find a way to play it meaning you will need a boot disk and swap method or modchip after you have made your copy to play.

[kagharaht]

I'm sorry to sound stupid. I've done searches for swap trick..err what is that? I went to the link to download instructions and this is what I found. So how do I make AR2 disk 1. Help..

"Performing the Swap Trick is very straightforward.
Load up your AR2 disc 1 and select WITHCODES. Open the tray and insert the backup. Now what I do is press X then EJECT. There is such a small space of time between pressing X then EJECT. I suggest you play around with it to see what works best for you."

[kagharaht]

I found more information....I think I would rather have the mod chip. Any recomendations? I hate to solder the thing....

[Sammer7686]

If anyone knows any information concerning my issue please respond. I have a dvd-r/w burner and ps2 and have been burning dvds using dvd decryptor which is an excellent program. i sucessfully ripped a dvd and played it on my all my sony dvd players although it didnt work on my ps2. How can i make it work? Do i need a modchip? Also how can i rip ps2 games using this program or another program if anyone has suggestions? What format do ps2 games need to be decrypted into? i know there dvds but i mean do i need to put them in iso or ifo ect?

[ps2daddy]

If anyone knows any information concerning my issue please respond. I have a dvd-r/w burner and ps2 and have been burning dvds using dvd decryptor which is an excellent program. i sucessfully ripped a dvd and played it on my all my sony dvd players although it didnt work on my ps2. How can i make it work? Do i need a modchip? Also how can i rip ps2 games using this program or another program if anyone has suggestions? What format do ps2 games need to be decrypted into? i know there dvds but i mean do i need to put them in iso or ifo ect?

PS2s are picky about the type of media that they will read verbatim, apple, and ritek are the best for the ps2 no modchip is required.


You can burn the image that dvd decrypter make but its just a lot easier to use toast.

I will recap part of a post I have about 6 comments above this works using toast titanium

How to do DVD’s

For those that need help with a mac

You need to use Toast Titanium 5.01 or 5.02
Open toast

If you just have a superdrive and want to save it to your drive first

1. Select image copy
2. insert DVD game
3. Save as image
4. Record image (don't use burnproof)

(note you must have enough space on your hard drive to do this)

or

If you just have a superdrive and want to just burn it

1. Select image copy
2. insert DVD game
3. Click on record
it will ask you to place in a blank DVD-R When ready

(note you must have enough space on your hard drive to do this)


If you have a DVD-RW and DVD-Rom drive and you want to copy on the fly

1. Select image copy
2. Drag DVD to window
3. Click on record

[Sammer7686]

Thank you very much. So where can i download the program toast and also if i understood correctly i can play the dvds on my ps2 without a modchip, is this correct? How bout burning ps2 games is that possible? So i'm using a dvd-rw drive and usually i just insert my dvd in that drive and than save it on my hard drive. Than i would insert a dvd-r and burn it on. is that simillar to what i would do in TOAST?

If anyone knows any information concerning my issue please respond. I have a dvd-r/w burner and ps2 and have been burning dvds using dvd decryptor which is an excellent program. i sucessfully ripped a dvd and played it on my all my sony dvd players although it didnt work on my ps2. How can i make it work? Do i need a modchip? Also how can i rip ps2 games using this program or another program if anyone has suggestions? What format do ps2 games need to be decrypted into? i know there dvds but i mean do i need to put them in iso or ifo ect?

PS2s are picky about the type of media that they will read verbatim, apple, and ritek are the best for the ps2 no modchip is required.


You can burn the image that dvd decrypter make but its just a lot easier to use toast.

I will recap part of a post I have about 6 comments above this works using toast titanium

How to do DVD’s

For those that need help with a mac

You need to use Toast Titanium 5.01 or 5.02
Open toast

If you just have a superdrive and want to save it to your drive first

1. Select image copy
2. insert DVD game
3. Save as image
4. Record image (don't use burnproof)

(note you must have enough space on your hard drive to do this)

or

If you just have a superdrive and want to just burn it

1. Select image copy
2. insert DVD game
3. Click on record
it will ask you to place in a blank DVD-R When ready

(note you must have enough space on your hard drive to do this)


If you have a DVD-RW and DVD-Rom drive and you want to copy on the fly

1. Select image copy
2. Drag DVD to window
3. Click on record

[ps2daddy]

Thank you very much. So where can i download the program toast and also if i understood correctly i can play the dvds on my ps2 without a modchip, is this correct? How bout burning ps2 games is that possible? So i'm using a dvd-rw drive and usually i just insert my dvd in that drive and than save it on my hard drive. Than i would insert a dvd-r and burn it on. is that simillar to what i would do in TOAST?

If anyone knows any information concerning my issue please respond. I have a dvd-r/w burner and ps2 and have been burning dvds using dvd decryptor which is an excellent program. i sucessfully ripped a dvd and played it on my all my sony dvd players although it didnt work on my ps2. How can i make it work? Do i need a modchip? Also how can i rip ps2 games using this program or another program if anyone has suggestions? What format do ps2 games need to be decrypted into? i know there dvds but i mean do i need to put them in iso or ifo ect?

PS2s are picky about the type of media that they will read verbatim, apple, and ritek are the best for the ps2 no modchip is required.


You can burn the image that dvd decrypter make but its just a lot easier to use toast.

I will recap part of a post I have about 6 comments above this works using toast titanium

(Sorry Edited Post)
How to do DVD Playstation Games

For those that need help with a mac

You need to use Toast Titanium 5.01 or 5.02
Open toast

If you just have a superdrive and want to save it to your drive first

1. Select image copy
2. insert DVD game
3. Save as image
4. Record image (don't use burnproof)

(note you must have enough space on your hard drive to do this)

or

If you just have a superdrive and want to just burn it

1. Select image copy
2. insert DVD game
3. Click on record
it will ask you to place in a blank DVD-R When ready

(note you must have enough space on your hard drive to do this)


If you have a DVD-RW and DVD-Rom drive and you want to copy on the fly

1. Select image copy
2. Drag DVD to window
3. Click on record

You need to buy toast

you can play any movie on a dvd without a chip
like I said just make sure you copy on good media

If you just have a superdrive and want to just burn it

1. Select image copy
2. insert DVD game
3. Click on record
it will ask you to place in a blank DVD-R When ready

Its that easy just remeber that you will have to find a way to play it meaning you will need a boot disk and swap method or modchip after you have made your copy to play.

[Sammer7686]

thanks, do i still want to hit image copy if i'm jusy ripping a dvd movie. Also i know this is a little different of a topic, but if i have a bunch of vcds can i put them on my dvd-r and still play them on my dvd player?