Connecting my Pioneer 105 to my G3/350

[pgriff21]

I have the Pioneer 105 (a05) and a G3/350 Mac running OS 9.2.2.

I can't seem to find a way to get my system to recognize the drive so I can record. It plays ok, but when i start up Toast it doesn't allow me to record the DVD.

I can't find any updates or drivers that can help me out. From what I can tell I have to upgrade to OS 10.2.

- Does anyone know a work around that would allow me to stay on OS 9.x?

- If I do have to upgrade to OS 10.2.x, is the performance good enough running a G3/350 to even do it? Or do I have to upgrade to a G4?

I'm trying to just get it to work without having to spend another load of cash upgrading a machine that is already way outdated.

Thanks for the help.

pgriff

[galactica]

I have the Pioneer 105 (a05) and a G3/350 Mac running OS 9.2.2.

I can't seem to find a way to get my system to recognize the drive so I can record. It plays ok, but when i start up Toast it doesn't allow me to record the DVD.

How is the drive installed? Internally? Externally? Can you be more specific on the g3/350? blue and white tower? beige desktop / tower?

IDE cabling? USB external firewire??

I can't find any updates or drivers that can help me out. From what I can tell I have to upgrade to OS 10.2.

- Does anyone know a work around that would allow me to stay on OS 9.x?

- If I do have to upgrade to OS 10.2.x, is the performance good enough running a G3/350 to even do it? Or do I have to upgrade to a G4?

If you run APPLE SYSTEM PROFILER, go to DEVICES what shows up for the drive? Anything?

A jump to 10.2 might be a bit of a stretch, though possible! Id recommend trying 10.1 and see if you like that. You can get it off ebay for really cheap these days.

What sort of memory do you have? 128? 256? 512? 10.2 is a MEMORY HOG, so you ned at least 256 if not more. It would be nice since OS9 is dead to get you into 10. may help with the drive, but it should work in 9.

I'm trying to just get it to work without having to spend another load of cash upgrading a machine that is already way outdated.

Thanks for the help.

pgriff

True. It should work. Let me know
Obviously upgrading would be nice, but it should work

[pgriff21]

Thanks for taking the time to help.

- It's a G3/350 beige tower with 512mb of memory and the 4mb video ram. I don't have an upgraded video card, just the standard.

- The Pioneer 105 is external USB 2.0/1.1 (It says it goes down to USB 1.1, I have the USB 2.0 card, I just haven't installed it yet. I know I'll need it once I start burning my video but I was just trying to get it to burn a cd first)

- It does see it in the Apple System profiler. When I put in a dvd/cd it shows up on the desktop, but Toast just doesn't see it when it searches for the "recorder" to use.

So the difference between 10.1 and 10.2 would hinder the performance a lot? I didn' think jumping versions 10.x to 10.x+ would affect it too much, but I guess that makes sense.

[galactica]

10.2 is an entirely differnt system for the most part. Its not a downloadable upgrade like you would go from say 10.1 to 10.1.4. Its requirements are more than 10.1 so my stating was just that 10.1 may run better on your machine. Personally, i only know of a friend who is runnint a G4 450 with 10.2. Dont know anyone that uses G3 350 with 10.2

Per toast, is that the only drive you have that burns? What version of toast do you have? It should work for all i know.

[pgriff21]

I have Toast 5.1.2.

The Pioneer 105 is the only drive currently connected that burns (or... that's supposed to burn).

I also have an older Iomega ZIP CD that connects via USB1.1, which works fine, but I don't have them connected at the same time or anything.

My built in CD drive is the standard "read only" that came with the machine.

[galactica]

Interesting.
So when you open up toast it just SCANNING.... for ever? or says no drive found?
I believe you can go to a point in toasts menu's where you get recorder info. See if anything comes up like error message or anything and let me know.

im at a loss....

[pgriff21]

Yeah I have it scan for the recorder and it works for a short bit and then says "No recorder found ".

I've been assuming that it's some driver issue, either within the software that it doesn't recognize the drive, or with the OS. I thought maybe there isn't a USB 2.0 driver for OS 9?

I'm stumped.

[WiseWeasel]

I would say to go ahead and install the USB 2.0 PCI card and see if that works. Didn't OS 9 drivers come with the card, or be made available on their website? If not, 10.2 should work fine on your system, and is in fact faster than 10.1 on all computers, and might fix your problem. The final solution would be to open up your computer, open up the external USB enclosure, and swap the internal CD-ROM drive with 105, so you get an internal DVD-RW and external CD-ROM. They should be able to fit into each-other's drive bay (though the DVD-RW drives are sometimes a little deeper than CD-ROM drives, so it depends on how much room is in your computer). Note that iDVD and DVD Studio Pro won't work on a G3 computer, due to the MPEG2 encoder's Altivec dependance.